Men accused of Whitmer kidnapping plot say FBI set them up: report

[Judi Lynn]

Source: The Hill


BY LEXI LONAS - 07/20/21 12:59 PM EDT

The men who are accused of attempting to kidnap Michigan Gov. Gretchen Whitmer (D) are saying the FBI set them up, according to court filings, evidence and dozen of interviews seen by BuzzFeed News.

There were at least 12 FBI informants involved in the investigation into the group for months while they were allegedly planning to kidnap the governor.

The FBI’s involvement was much bigger than previously known as the agency was involved when the plot began and had informants allegedly encouraging the group to further its plans, BuzzFeed News reported.


An Iraq War veteran informant rose to second in command of the group and paid for travel for members of the kidnapping plot to meet together. He also told members to work together and helped the person in charge advance the plan.

Read more: https://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/563902-men-accused-of-whitmer-kidnapping-plot-say-fbi-set-them-up-report

[yaesu]

1. "informants allegedly encouraging the group to further its plans" that will not play well in court

FBI practices may sink this case if it turns out to be true and its kind of looking that way.

[brush]

5. Not quite. The Michigan terrorists, remember, that's what they are...

didn't have guns put to their heads when trying to deploy their kidnapping plans into action. They wanted to do what they did.

I for one am glad the FBI infiltrated their group. That's how we stop domestic terrorists.

And I hope the FBI, DHS and other intel agencies are actively infiltrating right wing, domestic terrorist groups right now who are planning another insurrection of the Capitol in August to reinstall the orange turd because they believe his big lie.

Don't you agree?

[Mr.Bill]

7. It's exactly what they did to the KKK

in the 60s, and it worked.

[TimeToGo]

10. Also to anti-war groups

[Warpy]

17. Anti war groups were frustrating

to infiltrate because there was so little "there" there, outside of the Weather Underground. Peaceniks took their nonviolence seriously.

[TimeToGo]

21. See the Gainesville Eight

[Fortinbras Armstrong]

31. I was a member of Vietnam Veterans Against the War

We assumed that the FBI had infiltrated the organization, and were careful not to say in meetings anything we wouldn't be willing to say in public.

[Warpy]

32. It was the same in the SDS

We also used to play "spot the stooge" fairly regularly.

[ancianita]

12. FBI wouldn't have been there if the group didn't already have plans to further.

[Rebl2]

22. Exactly

[paleotn]

19. Giving someone the opportunity to commit a crime isn't entrapment....

The perps could have walked away, but THEY chose not to.

[Bengus81]

28. Nah...that's like saying a cop desquised as a hooker coming on to a John would get thrown out

It won't and yes she could say she's not a cop and that won't change things either.

[bucolic_frolic]

2. Ask

Harrison A. Williams. Entrapment is settled law. Stings are not illegal, in fact they are actively encouraged. It doesn't even seem to matter if the opportunity to commit the crime didn't exist outside the sting. So don't let the right wing media drum up sympathy for these miscreants. They were going to kidnap the Governor and do her bodily harm, allegedly.

[TeamProg]

3. This is not unusual. Plants, informants, set-ups are legal and done regularly.

"You can lead a horse to water but you can't make him drink".

Yep, just another group of wingnuts attempting to dodge accountability.

The defendant's case will not hold up.

If an FBI agent offers you a boatload of cocaine and you meet to buy it, you're busted.

[oldsoftie]

25. EXACTLY!!!

[SoCalNative]

4. uh huh

[sop]

6. The FBI has been orchestrating these stings for decades.

They've been infiltrating subversive groups from the Klan to the Panthers since the days of Hoover.

[Mr.Bill]

8. The larger problem will be finding 12 jurors who will convict

them of anything.

[paleotn]

20. Bingo.

[Aviation Pro]

11. Men, at least ones, are fucking morons...

....

[TeamProg]

29. "Men are stupid and women are crazy, and the main reason that women are crazy is because

men are STUPID!"

- George Carlin


Personally, I think it's testosterone in men's bodies that often raises aggressiveness and competition above reason and good judgment.

[Captain Zero]

13. Set up by the Man !!

nt.

[lagomorph777]

14. If somebody came to me and offered to help me kidnap the Governor,

I'm thinking I wouldn't be interested.

[markbark]

15. Ah yes, The Marion Barry "The b*tch done sat me up" defense.

Here's a clue fellahs: It didn't work for Barry either.

[oldsoftie]

26. and yet he STILL got reelected!

[Politicub]

16. Whitewashing a failed assassination plot. The right (especially the white right) are unable

to hold themselves accountable for their crimes.

Like children, they try to blame someone else by pointing and saying, "It wasn't me."

Plainly, this was a group of murderers infiltrated by the FBI. The FBI was successful in stopping an assassination. That's what happened.

There are details that the right and its enablers will use to bend the narrative to one of victimhood. Don't allow them to get away with it. I'm already seeing people on this thread fretting about the gathering of intelligence instead of the horror that would have resulted had the would-be assassins been successful in murdering Whitmer.

[oldsoftie]

27. FBI just doing their job. As they should be.

And they usually do a good one.

[onecaliberal]

18. Did the FBI make them come up with the idea too. This is pathetic. The FBI did it's job.

I hope they're infiltrating more of these gangs.

[Grokenstein]

23. "The Eff-Bee-Eye made me do it!"

The Eff-Bee-Eye made my poor momma cry
But it isn't my fault
It's never my fault
The Eff-Bee-Eye made me do a bad crime
And now I'll do time
For a very, very long time

[oldsoftie]

24. They're using the same argument for Jan 6th too

Lame.
I dont think an FBI agent could convince me to rob a bank or blow up a bldg

[The Jungle 1]

30. It is treason!