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Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin

(108,035 posts)
Fri Aug 20, 2021, 07:06 PM Aug 2021

US Chamber of Commerce backs Democrats threatening to derail budget resolution

Source: The Hill

The U.S. Chamber of Commerce is running digital ads praising nine moderate House Democrats who are urging Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) to immediately convene a vote on the bipartisan infrastructure bill passed by the Senate earlier this month.

Those Democratic lawmakers, led by Rep. Josh Gottheimer (D-N.J.), have threatened to block leadership's $3.5 trillion budget resolution, which serves as a framework for the reconciliation package, until the bipartisan infrastructure bill gets a floor vote.

The Chamber and other prominent business lobbying groups support the bipartisan plan, which invests over $1 trillion in infrastructure without raising taxes on corporations, but they strongly oppose Democrats' larger reconciliation package that would be paid for with tax hikes.

Pelosi has insisted that the bipartisan bill must be coupled with a larger reconciliation package that invests in Democratic priorities such as addressing climate change and child care.

Read more: https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/us-chamber-of-commerce-backs-democrats-threatening-to-derail-budget-resolution/ar-AANyp5O?li=BBnb7Kz

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US Chamber of Commerce backs Democrats threatening to derail budget resolution (Original Post) Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Aug 2021 OP
maybe dems should get what they can one step at a time nt msongs Aug 2021 #1
Then There Will Be No Second Step WHITT Aug 2021 #5
Fools WHITT Aug 2021 #2
Maybe I'm missing something here but isn't the reconciliation bill OnDoutside Aug 2021 #3
From what they have done with previous reconciliation bills BumRushDaShow Aug 2021 #7
Thanks for that, so really if there isn't a House floor vote on the OnDoutside Aug 2021 #10
Of course the chamber of commerce is backing this repub like action questionseverything Aug 2021 #4
The Chamber of Commerce is no friend of mine Lasher Aug 2021 #6
There's Only One Reason WHITT Aug 2021 #11
Course they did Pas-de-Calais Aug 2021 #8
Nancy will handle it.. mountain grammy Aug 2021 #9

WHITT

(2,868 posts)
5. Then There Will Be No Second Step
Fri Aug 20, 2021, 07:24 PM
Aug 2021

That's their entire goal. Get the Repub bill passed and signed, then jam the reconciliation bill.

WHITT

(2,868 posts)
2. Fools
Fri Aug 20, 2021, 07:21 PM
Aug 2021
Those Democratic lawmakers, led by Rep. Josh Gottheimer (D-N.J.), have threatened to block leadership's $3.5 trillion budget resolution, which serves as a framework for the reconciliation package, until the bipartisan infrastructure bill gets a floor vote.

If the Speaker gets her way with one rule, if these clowns vote against the reconciliation bill, they'll also be voting against the 'bipartisan' bill.

OnDoutside

(19,962 posts)
3. Maybe I'm missing something here but isn't the reconciliation bill
Fri Aug 20, 2021, 07:22 PM
Aug 2021

Going to come from the Senate to the House as the bipartisan deal did ? In which case, Gottheimer and the others are full of wind. If anything, now they've shown their hand.

BumRushDaShow

(129,101 posts)
7. From what they have done with previous reconciliation bills
Fri Aug 20, 2021, 07:52 PM
Aug 2021

is that since both chambers usually do markups of the specifics in their own committees, each chamber usually comes up with their own "version" that eventually goes through a Joint Committee to reconcile them to create a single version, a process that might include parts or a whole of one that would become an "amendment as a substitute" to the other.

For whatever is put together, it has to be done on some House-originated bill though (whether it be one directly related or perhaps one that already contains elements of what is wanted and then the Senate's piece gets added onto that and voted on), due to money bills being constitutionally required to "originate" in the House.

This drama is all to force the Senate to act before the opportunity slips away. As it is, the final sign off on any reconciliation legislation must wait until the new fiscal year, after September 30.

OnDoutside

(19,962 posts)
10. Thanks for that, so really if there isn't a House floor vote on the
Sat Aug 21, 2021, 01:32 AM
Aug 2021

3.5 BN then the main way they could block it is if some of those 9 were on the committees ? At least Nancy is well able for these guys !

questionseverything

(9,656 posts)
4. Of course the chamber of commerce is backing this repub like action
Fri Aug 20, 2021, 07:22 PM
Aug 2021

In the reconciliation bill there is lots of stuff that will change lives all paid for with taxes on the ultra rich

The infrastructure bill basically uses public money to research and develop stuff (like batteries) that private companies will use to make money

Or put in cable lines that Comcast will charge an arm and a leg for

Hold the line speaker!

WHITT

(2,868 posts)
11. There's Only One Reason
Sat Aug 21, 2021, 06:57 AM
Aug 2021

to insist that the 'bipartisan' corporate Repub bill be passed and signed into law FIRST, and that is to then BLOCK the 'for the people' reconciliation bill.

The U.S. Chamber of Commerce, the nine Dem members of the House, and at least two Dem Senators, are all against raising taxes on the Rich & Corporate. They won't admit that, because raising taxes on the Rich & Corporate, who are woefully undertaxed and not paying their fair share, is wildly popular with the American people. Instead, they talk about how large the bill will be, nevermind it's paid for, while the bill they support is not paid for.

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