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mahatmakanejeeves

(57,434 posts)
Wed Sep 1, 2021, 09:41 AM Sep 2021

NFLPA to investigate Urban Meyer's admission that vaccination status factored into roster cuts

Source: Washington Post

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NFLPA to investigate Urban Meyer’s admission that vaccination status factored into roster cuts

By Mark Maske and Des Bieler
Yesterday at 9:31 p.m. EDT

The NFL Players Association said it will open an investigation into comments made Tuesday by Jacksonville Jaguars Coach Urban Meyer, who said that the team considered players’ vaccination status while making its roster decisions.

“This is a concern and we are going to look into it,” George Atallah, the NFLPA’s assistant executive director of external affairs, said Tuesday night.

The Jaguars and other NFL teams trimmed their rosters to 53 active players by Tuesday afternoon’s deadline. Meyer said that players’ potential availability — based on vaccination status — was among the issues considered by the Jaguars.

“Everyone was considered,” Meyer said at a news conference. “That was part of the production. Let’s start talking about this and then also: Is he vaccinated or not? Can I say that that was a decision-maker? It was certainly in consideration.”

{snip}

By Mark Maske
Mark Maske covers the NFL for The Washington Post. He has covered the NFL and the Washington Football Team since 1998. He previously covered baseball, the Baltimore Orioles, the effort to bring a major league team to Washington, and colleges. Twitter https://twitter.com/MarkMaske

By Des Bieler
Des Bieler is a staff writer in Sports who covers a wide variety of topics, including fantasy football. He first settled in at The Post in 1995 and has proved difficult to dislodge. Twitter https://twitter.com/DesBieler

Read more: https://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/2021/08/31/urban-meyer-jaguars-vaccination-roster-cuts/



NFL Players Association to investigate Urban Meyer’s admission that vaccination status factored into roster cuts


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NFLPA to investigate Urban Meyer's admission that vaccination status factored into roster cuts (Original Post) mahatmakanejeeves Sep 2021 OP
Makes sense. An un vaccinated player would be a liability. Srkdqltr Sep 2021 #1
Yes. The Players' Association should be advocating... brush Sep 2021 #22
Wow the NFLPA did the impossible. nycbos Sep 2021 #2
Right? I mean, what's the problem here? LymphocyteLover Sep 2021 #21
That was easy. twodogsbarking Sep 2021 #3
Maybe the NFLPA would support an anti-vax league? OAITW r.2.0 Sep 2021 #4
OOooh, yes - pack a stadium with antivaxxers. lagomorph777 Sep 2021 #7
Horse medicine at the concession stand. twodogsbarking Sep 2021 #9
So what is wrong with this? Botany Sep 2021 #5
They need to investigate what's wrong with some of their members. lagomorph777 Sep 2021 #6
Unvaxxed Idiots More Likely To Miss Games A Big Factor DanieRains Sep 2021 #8
No brainer. A forfeit due to Covid is a Loss for the team responsible for the outbreak. elias7 Sep 2021 #10
It's fine to cut him for health reason WA-03 Democrat Sep 2021 #11
Republicans are against unions, but that is their best recourse to fight these situations. 33taw Sep 2021 #12
NFL Radio talked about this last night (former GM Pat Kirwin) JT45242 Sep 2021 #13
Florida is an at-will state ... anybody can be fired from any job for little reason Auggie Sep 2021 #14
Wouldn't this be based on the contract language gab13by13 Sep 2021 #15
Who knows? That's why I expect the courts to settle it. Auggie Sep 2021 #17
No doubt why Belichik cut Cam Newton. maxsolomon Sep 2021 #16
Unvaxxed players exposed to a positive contact have to 5 day quarantine, missing practice/games. Marcuse Sep 2021 #18
Can't Urban use gab13by13 Sep 2021 #19
Also the key 85% threshold... teams protecting themselves from a potential FORFEIT JT45242 Sep 2021 #20
The offending team also has to pay game checks for opponents as well. brush Sep 2021 #23
Snowflakes play football? Xoan Sep 2021 #24
Shit like this is why a lot of people dont like unions. oldsoftie Sep 2021 #25

brush

(53,776 posts)
22. Yes. The Players' Association should be advocating...
Wed Sep 1, 2021, 02:01 PM
Sep 2021

that its members get vaccinated instead of protesting this as the League has already stated that teams will forfeit games and must pay expenses and game checks for opponents of canceled games.

Getting their members vaxxed should been the number one priority from day one for the Association.

Belicheck didn't say so but that's probably the reason he cut Cam Newton...not being vaccinated.

nycbos

(6,034 posts)
2. Wow the NFLPA did the impossible.
Wed Sep 1, 2021, 09:48 AM
Sep 2021

Last edited Wed Sep 1, 2021, 02:51 PM - Edit history (1)

They made an old white man look like a good guy in a situation like this. That's a special kind of stupid.


Bravo to coach Meyer if he cut unvaccinated players.


OAITW r.2.0

(24,467 posts)
4. Maybe the NFLPA would support an anti-vax league?
Wed Sep 1, 2021, 09:51 AM
Sep 2021

Why wouldn't teams have the right to decide what players to keep? If it boils down to a vax'd player vs. an unvax'd player making the cut....why wouldn't this be a factor? Seems like a reasonable position for a team to take. I think that factored into Belichick's decision to cut Cam Newton.

Botany

(70,501 posts)
5. So what is wrong with this?
Wed Sep 1, 2021, 09:58 AM
Sep 2021

An un-vaccinated player is liability to the team and the league. They don't have to take the vaccine but the team
doesn't have to give 'em a roster spot. The NFL's new rules come with severe penalties for teams that have un-
vaccinated players who get the disease.

I don't know why Ohio State is not demanding to see proof of vaccination to attend a football game this fall. I love
OSU football but the last thing I want to do is attend a game right now even though I am vaccinated.

lagomorph777

(30,613 posts)
6. They need to investigate what's wrong with some of their members.
Wed Sep 1, 2021, 09:58 AM
Sep 2021

Health of the player is a core condition of employment, as far as I know. But I don't follow sports.

 

DanieRains

(4,619 posts)
8. Unvaxxed Idiots More Likely To Miss Games A Big Factor
Wed Sep 1, 2021, 10:00 AM
Sep 2021

Makes sense.

They can also cause an outbreak on a team.

Cut them all.

elias7

(3,998 posts)
10. No brainer. A forfeit due to Covid is a Loss for the team responsible for the outbreak.
Wed Sep 1, 2021, 10:04 AM
Sep 2021

The league sent a memo to all 32 teams in July that said if a game cannot be rescheduled during the season due to a COVID-19 outbreak among unvaccinated players, the team with the outbreak will be credited with a loss in a forfeit.

Of course vax status should be considered.

The NFLPA should smarten up.

WA-03 Democrat

(3,047 posts)
11. It's fine to cut him for health reason
Wed Sep 1, 2021, 10:05 AM
Sep 2021

Because their knees and hips have been ground to dust but a Pandemic is a personal choice!

JT45242

(2,268 posts)
13. NFL Radio talked about this last night (former GM Pat Kirwin)
Wed Sep 1, 2021, 10:33 AM
Sep 2021

They said that every team would count this in the equation especially for end of the roster spots and the practice squad which is expanded specifically to prevent a position group from being wiped out by covid. He said that he talked to a lot of teams and that unofficially they were considering this -- especially after Denver starting a WR at QB last year.

Then-- they said that NO TEAM WOULD SAY THIS ON THE RECORD because of the collective bargaining agreement.

Urban made the mistake of telling the truth.

He will quickly learn that NFL stands for "Not For Long" when the players make more and have more clout with the owner than the coach.

Have to be smart enough to know ehn to not answer a question.

Auggie

(31,168 posts)
14. Florida is an at-will state ... anybody can be fired from any job for little reason
Wed Sep 1, 2021, 10:39 AM
Sep 2021

Expect the courts to settle the question: is vaccination (or no vaccination) a form of free speech?

https://www.ballmanfirm.com/youve-been-fired-what-can-you-do-about-it-under-florida-law.html

The NFL made it's case pretty clear last month. The NFLPA has no case even if they can prove anything.

gab13by13

(21,331 posts)
15. Wouldn't this be based on the contract language
Wed Sep 1, 2021, 10:47 AM
Sep 2021

and not on Florida law? The NFLPA agreement spans many states.

Auggie

(31,168 posts)
17. Who knows? That's why I expect the courts to settle it.
Wed Sep 1, 2021, 11:56 AM
Sep 2021

The NFL made it pretty clear that any franchise that can't field a team for any game will forfeit. Even Jerry Jones of the Cowboys jumped on the vaccine bandwagon.

JT45242

(2,268 posts)
20. Also the key 85% threshold... teams protecting themselves from a potential FORFEIT
Wed Sep 1, 2021, 01:03 PM
Sep 2021

If a team is below the 85% vaccinated threshold and gets an outbreak. They will forfeit the game and all players will lose a game check.

Nice to know that the NFLPA is out there working hard to cause players to lose paychecks by protecting the unvaccinated players.

(Not to mention the guy accused by more than 20 women of sexual assault -- somehow I doubt he will get 20 times the punishment that Roethlisberger got (6 game suspension) for one accusation) Yep ... this union wants to protect rapists, steroid users, and anti-vaxxers.

brush

(53,776 posts)
23. The offending team also has to pay game checks for opponents as well.
Wed Sep 1, 2021, 02:08 PM
Sep 2021

The League is not playing around and coaches know what to do.

The players and their association need to smarten up and get vaccinated or many will be out of jobs.

That's plain as day.

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