At least 8 deaths as Hurricane Ida's remnants hit Northeast
Source: AP
By DAVID PORTER and MARK SCOLFORO
NEW YORK (AP) At least eight deaths in were reported in New York City and New Jersey as relentless rain from the remnants of Hurricane Ida sent the New York City area into a state of emergency early Thursday and the storm carried into New England with threats of more tornadoes.
Police in New York City reported seven deaths, including a 50-year-old man, a 48-year-old woman and a 2-year-old boy who were found unconscious and unresponsive late Wednesday inside a home. They were pronounced dead at the scene, police said. One death was reported in New Jersey.
New Yorks FDR Drive, a major artery on the east side of Manhattan, and the Bronx River Parkway were under water by late Wednesday evening. Subway stations and tracks became so flooded that the Metropolitan Transportation Authority suspended all service. Videos posted online showed subway riders standing on seats in cars filled with water.
Other videos showed vehicles submerged up to their windows on major roadways in and around the city and garbage bobbing down the streets.
Pedestrians take cover near Columbus Circle in New York Wednesday, Sept. 1, 2021, as the remnants of Hurricane Ida remained powerful while moving along the Eastern seaboard. (AP Photo/Craig Ruttle)
Read more: https://apnews.com/article/environment-and-nature-hurricanes-60327279197e14b9d17632ea0818f51c
BigmanPigman
(51,565 posts)for the past 30+ years. Maybe they are correct about Covid too. Go figure.
twodogsbarking
(9,669 posts)The scientist didn't mention climate change but he had studied the oceans and the pressure
at the oceans' surfaces and stated that there would be more severe weather
events but not more in number. He was alarmed at how unusual his findings were.
Stronger hurricanes, tornadoes, floods, etc..
BigmanPigman
(51,565 posts)The Green House Effect. I remember a Murphy Brown from the late 80s discussed this issue. Remember the Ozone Layer and spray-on deodorant arguments.
LittleGirl
(8,278 posts)FailureToCommunicate
(14,007 posts)BumRushDaShow
(128,429 posts)The local NWS in Mt. Holly is going to be investigating at least 7 suspected ones.
Link to tweet
(South Jersey)
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@WeatherNation
Stunning footage of a large #tornado from New Jersey this evening!
Dangerous tornadoes were spotted in multiple locations between Delaware, New Jersey and Pennsylvania.
#DEwx #PAwx #NJwx
9:00 PM · Sep 1, 2021
And I think this one that I saw last evening was the most dramatic - going across the Burlington-Bristol bridge.
(Central Jersey)
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@WeatherNation
MUST SEE 👀
A camera captured a #tornado heading directly for the Burlington Bristol Bridge in New Jersey Wednesday evening.
8:22 PM · Sep 1, 2021
The one shown in the 2nd tweet video is the same one in that AP video in the OP by the bridge. As a note, the Burlington-Bristol bridge is a draw bridge or actually a "lift bridge" (not sure of the term). The central portion over the river can lift up to allow the taller ships/barges to pass underneath.
I was actually tracking those and a suspected one about 5 miles from where I live.
We also have catastrophic flooding here in the area and in parts of the downtown by the Schuylkill river.
electric_blue68
(14,817 posts)BumRushDaShow
(128,429 posts)has confirmed 1-EF0, 2-EF1s and an EF2 tornado (that EF2 being about about 5 - 7 miles from where I live).
They are still evaluating the biggy that hit the Mullica Hill, NJ area, but I expect it might end up being an EF3 (which is very rare around here) or possibly (at least according to one climatologist who is a professor at a local college I think in NJ), Jersey's first EF4.
electric_blue68
(14,817 posts)EF3?!! EF4??!!!
I know about the rarity in the sense that I'm a bit of a weather buff, a big cloud buff. Terrified of tornadoes (duh!). The first tornado I ever heard of hitting right near NYC (any Burrough) was a ?F0-F1 in the NJ town that the George Washington Bridge sits in the late '80s - early '90.
NYC would get a low grade tornado supposedly every 8-10 yrs. But I have no memory of any before the mid-00's when I lived in Brooklyn.
Then we had 2 one year and 1 every year, every other year. Plus down by the Stature of Liberty (lower NYC bay) that area of NJ is right there across the water, and they've had waterspouts there!
Now that I'm in The not quite middle, and definitely western Bronx - we've had one sighting that touched down very north Bronx then moved on to Con.
And we had whatever - serious warnings last night. Not sure if there were any actual touchdown.Sheeeesh! 😔
GOOD LUCK to you!
BumRushDaShow
(128,429 posts)so I post about weather stuff on a different forum and our little regional group were tracking these.
We had had a few tornadoes here in Philly in the city, but not frequently. I remember 2 - one that was literally a couple miles from me back in the early '90s and the other that happened in the late '80s on a weekend not far from where I worked where one of my co-workers was working in the building that weekend and it was hot (but they had the building air AC off at the time).... so he opened the windows, and sometime during the day, a tornado or its funnel, passed by there and he said the wind along with the pressure differential, blew all the papers off the desks in the room.
I did find a cool site years ago that has the tornado stats (and is updated) and the entry for Philly (metro from 1950 to date) is here - http://www.stormfax.com/patorn.htm#Philadelphia
The NWS has records for earlier ones.
electric_blue68
(14,817 posts)F0 but 18 injured people!
A Plaza - maybe a shopping area? A big sign shattered, a
big window blown out?
An anti-cyclone?!!
And that steep pressure change!
Wild stuff.
As a visual artist I love nature, one of my favorite things are clouds. Drawing from nature occasionally, lots of times from imagination. I know the names in general and some of those mixed ones.
You'll like this cloud story of mine, but I to have to set up what the area looks like so you'll get the impact of what I was seeing.
At one point I lived on the first floor of an apt, but we
were on a hill. The front was on a flat street but the middle to back was held up by a gigantic "pedistal" of concrete, and big long boulders, had a gigantic balcony hanging over it.
We were about 8 stories above the avenue east of us. There were 2 more avenues east of those, then the ground rose back up to about our height. Our apt was in the back. Our fire escape was like a veranda looking at a 180° view of the whole sky. There was a gap between between us and the building South of us. 💖 It was a *glorious* view!
We were also in the waaaay upper narrow part of Mahattan, the (westward) Hudson River was only a few short avenues away from on us. Past the Hudson is NJ.
So I come home, and get myself out on the fire escape.
I practically do a nano second of double take - there is this mountainous thunderhead in the relative distance with the bottom ?third probably dipped below the horizon (which from my vantage point was south east of us in Queens).
What had me shocked still for a nano second was
the long column of cloud with a not-yet-anvil but a flattened puffy circular (think looking at a doughnut from the side) top. My initial reaction was 'Atomic Bomb!!!' which of course made no sense reality but did partly mimic part of it's shape, so yeah ... I growing up in the #2 Target of the Soviet Union back in the day of the '60s.
To it's west and south of us was also - a smaller but still pretty big thunderhead - it didn't quite have a column yet but you could see it'd be possibly forming. Probably sitting over NJ.
I basically sat on the fire escape for 4 ish hours. It wasn't yet "the golden hour" but eventually that arrived, both these clouds grew golden, pink, a touch violet then the shades of twilight till they were a medium dark blue but against a darker sky...
and...
And...
Now both could be seen variously lighting up on the inside as if they were talking to each other! They hardly moved in these fours hours, and above them -
a clear night sky with a few stars glittering above!
Not what you might think of when thinking a
"New York City experience!". 🙂
I did make a drawing of it! 💖
BumRushDaShow
(128,429 posts)and I get it too.
In fact, I was looking for some more videos on the tornadoes in my area yesterday and stumbled upon someone's tweet of a video of a thunderstorm at night that had cloud-to-cloud lightning, but recorded as an experiment to try out the slow-motion feature on her cell phone. My iPhone can do that.
It turned out pretty cool (and is a "live" illustration of "talking clouds" )!
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@thisthatandsuch
I was playing around with the slow-mo on my phone tonight & just happened to capture this. So crazy!!!
12:05 AM · Sep 2, 2021 from Vicksburg, MS
That would make some great art!
And as a side note, Mt. Holly NWS just confirmed the scale for 2 more tornadoes - the one in Mullica Hill as a (preliminary) EF3 and one in Bucks County, PA as an EF1. There's just one left for them to label (one in Chester County PA).
electric_blue68
(14,817 posts)Our two storms were too far way from each other to do that.
That was a cool phone video! 🤔
I wonder if mine has a slo-mo feature? 😄
I don't think so - but I'll check. 👍.
So, an EF3. 😲 yikers!
I love Philly. My sis spent a year in University there.
She had a corner apt semi-basement. The trolley turned right at that spot, but she got used to it.
I'd go down and visit. The Italian market. The area that had
all kinds of craft type stores. 💖 The Liberty Bell.
Of course I had a Philly Cheese Steak sub at one point.
BumRushDaShow
(128,429 posts)Now THAT ("sub" ) is New YAWK.
There are some who like cheesesteak hoagies but that's not my preference.
Demsrule86
(68,456 posts)BumRushDaShow
(128,429 posts)and a fatality caused by a tree that fell into a home. The NWS confirmed 7 tornadoes in the metro area - one EF0, three EF1s, one EF2 (that was right near where I live) and one EF3.
One of the expressways that I used to use to commute to work in the mornings has become a canal (apparently a pump failed for it). The water in the below is a flooded 1-676 Vine Street expressway that goes across the city "from river to river" (Schuylkill to the Delaware). I.e., THIS is NOT a "canal".
The people who live right near that and by the river in the Franklintown and Logan Square neighborhoods - that are literally right near the Phila. Art Museum, have been flooded out. There are several tower apartment buildings right there (I think 4 of them) that had their basements (with the electrical circuits for the buildings) flooded and all had to be evacuated.
And the wild thing is - the huge "Made in America" concert is supposed to happen right there in that area this weekend. I haven't heard a peep other than a few "what to do this weekend" older announcements.
The main stage is being constructed literally a block or two from that river flooding. I annotated a map of the area from an earlier "Made in America" map done 4 years ago that showed the street closures for the event back then. Except for the circle showing where the "main stage" is (there are other smaller stages usually constructed along the Parkway) the yellow polygon areas were or STILL ARE flooded -
&t
This is what they have been constructing at the moment -
The Art Museum is actually up on a hill and its location literally used to be the city's huge drinking water reservoir before they re-did the water distribution down there, eventually filled it in, and built the museum at that spot, where the waterworks are at the side and rear of the entrance along the river -
(early 1900s)
(now)
Demsrule86
(68,456 posts)area for a number of years as a child and also as an adult...it is heartbreaking.
Stay safe!
durablend
(7,455 posts)brooklynite
(94,327 posts)Demsrule86
(68,456 posts)climate change...GOP obstruction of course...but I thought it would be multiple decades before damage like this started happening.
Tracer
(2,769 posts)there are more than 40 deaths in NJ and NY. Many were drowned in their basement apartment.
It was a tough situation to be in.
electric_blue68
(14,817 posts)Dang my sis and I were planning to go to Coney Island to see the last of the Summer Beach fireworks tomorrow....
Oh, well, we'll see if they restore it for tomorrow.
We do this x1 a Summer for over 10 years now? 💖
Look at cool art on these concrete free standing walls (only past 5? yrs), eat Nathan's hotdogs, walk on boardwalk, watch fireworks, eat soft serve ice cream, then go on the long trip home. We're close to opposite ends of the city (5 Burroughs) - us north, CI south!
Demsrule86
(68,456 posts)My husband went to Manhattan College. I went to UCONN...I went to a state school...hubs of course was a spoiled preppy boy...hehe.