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left-of-center2012

(34,195 posts)
Thu Sep 2, 2021, 10:08 AM Sep 2021

Democrats promote Cheney to vice chairwoman of Jan. 6 panel

Source: AP news

House Democrats have promoted Republican Rep. Liz Cheney to vice chairwoman of a committee investigating the Jan. 6 Capitol insurrection, placing her in a leadership spot on the panel as some members of the GOP caucus are threatening to oust her for participating.

Cheney, a fierce critic of former President Donald Trump, has remained defiant amid the criticism from her own party, insisting that Congress must probe the Capitol attack, in which hundreds of Trump’s supporters violently pushed past police, broke into the building and interrupted the certification of Joe Biden’s presidential election victory.

Cheney’s appointment as vice chairwoman comes amid an effort by some Republicans to oust Cheney and Rep. Adam Kinzinger of Illinois from the GOP conference because they accepted their appointments to the panel from House Speaker Nancy Pelosi. A draft letter by Arizona Rep. Andy Biggs to Republican Leader Kevin McCarthy obtained by The Associated Press calls Cheney and Kinzinger “two spies for the Democrats” whom Republicans cannot trust to attend their private meetings.

“Every member of this committee is dedicated to conducting a non-partisan, professional, and thorough investigation of all the relevant facts regarding January 6th and the threat to our Constitution we faced that day,” Cheney said in the statement. “I have accepted the position of Vice Chair of the committee to assure that we achieve that goal.”

Read more: https://apnews.com/article/capitol-siege-ee5bdc49f735969b5e9aa2db2fd94620

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Democrats promote Cheney to vice chairwoman of Jan. 6 panel (Original Post) left-of-center2012 Sep 2021 OP
On this particular issue, she is valuable. Evolve Dammit Sep 2021 #1
It's the right move for credibility of the committee bucolic_frolic Sep 2021 #2
You are right, and this isn't about ideology, but an attack on our government JohnSJ Sep 2021 #3
Bipartisan credibility. JohnnyRingo Sep 2021 #4
Liz Cheney Snapped @ Jim Jordan During Jan. 6 Riot for Promoting Election Lie 'You F---ing Did This Botany Sep 2021 #5
Just a tiny twist of the knife in McCarthy's back. I love it! George II Sep 2021 #6
Cue the Republican TV Whiner Brigade....10...9...8...7... Champp Sep 2021 #7
And cue the "we hate Cheney" brigade while you're at it... NurseJackie Sep 2021 #25
Yep. WinstonSmith4740 Sep 2021 #12
go ahead, kevin. mopinko Sep 2021 #8
Yup. Im ready for the GQP to kick Liz & Kinzinger out so they can better align w us onetexan Sep 2021 #9
Wait up...just because they have moments of lucidity agingdem Sep 2021 #10
Everybody knows these 2 w remain conservatives onetexan Sep 2021 #15
Another projection. ancianita Sep 2021 #11
I'm sure Cheney would do the same for any Democrat. Autumn Sep 2021 #13
It doesn't matter. People shouldn't let their hatred for her cause them to lose sight... NurseJackie Sep 2021 #16
Really Jackie? I guess that doesn't apply to young progressive Democats for some folks. Autumn Sep 2021 #17
Yes, Autumn... really. NurseJackie Sep 2021 #18
No I am not suggesting that Liz Cheney doesn't deserve the role. I am fucking flat out stating it. Autumn Sep 2021 #19
Now.... THAT is funny! 🤣😂😜 NurseJackie Sep 2021 #20
Happy I could give you a chuckle for the day. There's no way I can repay what you have given me. Autumn Sep 2021 #21
I know. NurseJackie Sep 2021 #22
Abraham Lincoln? George II Sep 2021 #26
Abraham Lincoln Marcuse Sep 2021 #32
Disrespectful responses notwithstanding, anyone Chairman Bennie Thompson... George II Sep 2021 #23
Yes. I appreciate your mature, rational and intelligent response... NurseJackie Sep 2021 #24
Apparently some didn't read Bennie Thompson's statement on why he chose Liz Cheney as Vice-Chair. George II Sep 2021 #28
But would they have comprehended it, even if they bothered to read it? NurseJackie Sep 2021 #33
In other words, you can lead a horse to water, but you can't make him read it. Unfortunately.... George II Sep 2021 #34
This is a good move LetMyPeopleVote Sep 2021 #14
This message was self-deleted by its author ExTex Sep 2021 #27
this is gonna backfire -- we should not be associating with a powerless & desperate Cheney cadoman Sep 2021 #29
Well... Mike Nelson Sep 2021 #30
I don't trust her Mary in S. Carolina Sep 2021 #31

bucolic_frolic

(43,057 posts)
2. It's the right move for credibility of the committee
Thu Sep 2, 2021, 10:30 AM
Sep 2021

I hope despite the differences in ideologies that mutual respect results from this committee. Communication and disagreement do not always mean political war. Or at least they didn't pre-2000, 1994, or 1980, depends on the starting point you choose.

JohnnyRingo

(18,619 posts)
4. Bipartisan credibility.
Thu Sep 2, 2021, 10:55 AM
Sep 2021

A very strategically placed republican ends the accusation that it's a partisan "witch hunt".

The GOP can't argue that there are only two or three real republicans in the whole country suited for the position, though they may go on Hannity to say it.

Botany

(70,447 posts)
5. Liz Cheney Snapped @ Jim Jordan During Jan. 6 Riot for Promoting Election Lie 'You F---ing Did This
Thu Sep 2, 2021, 11:01 AM
Sep 2021

Liz knows where the bodies are buried.

NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
25. And cue the "we hate Cheney" brigade while you're at it...
Thu Sep 2, 2021, 03:23 PM
Sep 2021

... which sadly, serves no good purpose other than to undermine the integrity of the Chairman's judgement and intelligence (as well as the integrity of the other members, and the important work of the committee itself.)

agingdem

(7,805 posts)
10. Wait up...just because they have moments of lucidity
Thu Sep 2, 2021, 12:14 PM
Sep 2021

they are still conservative republicans...both voted 90% of the time with Trump and against his first impeachment...at this particular moment in time they hate Trump more than they hate the Dems..ok we'll take it, however, unless they're willing to leave the Republican Party, go independent, and caucus with the Dems let's not rush to sainthood...

onetexan

(13,020 posts)
15. Everybody knows these 2 w remain conservatives
Thu Sep 2, 2021, 01:34 PM
Sep 2021

Noone's canonizing anyone here, ur rushing to judgment. If they are independent & want to vote w Dems great. Big tent party has conservatives too...ala manchin, sinema..moderates

ancianita

(35,933 posts)
11. Another projection.
Thu Sep 2, 2021, 12:16 PM
Sep 2021

Their script of changing parties goes so far back they've probably forgotten what a Republican once was.

NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
16. It doesn't matter. People shouldn't let their hatred for her cause them to lose sight...
Thu Sep 2, 2021, 02:13 PM
Sep 2021
I'm sure Cheney would do the same for any Democrat.
It doesn't matter. People shouldn't let their hatred for her cause them to lose sight of the bigger picture. In the end, it's not about Cheney. Nothing is being done FOR her or to BENEFIT HER! That's ridiculous. The fact of the matter is this: it's about the committee. It's about the integrity of the investigation. Our party leadership, and the committee members understand that the work of the committee is too important to get bogged down in petty jealousies about who has a bigger feather in their cap.

“Every member of this committee is dedicated to conducting a non-partisan, professional, and thorough investigation of all the relevant facts regarding January 6th and the threat to our Constitution we faced that day,” Cheney said in the statement. “I have accepted the position of Vice Chair of the committee to assure that we achieve that goal.”

NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
18. Yes, Autumn... really.
Thu Sep 2, 2021, 02:37 PM
Sep 2021
Really Jackie?
Yes, Autumn... really.

I guess that doesn't apply to young progressive Democats for some folks.
How so? Please explain if you can. Which young "Democats" on this committee are more deserving of the position/role that they hold? Which ones have been snubbed? Do you believe that someone with more experience was left out? If so, who? What experience would they have brought to the table?

Are you seriously suggesting that Cheney doesn't deserve the role? Do you believe that elevating her to Vice-Chair is something that harms or tarnish the committee? Does it harm other Democrats?

Thanks in advance.

Autumn

(44,981 posts)
19. No I am not suggesting that Liz Cheney doesn't deserve the role. I am fucking flat out stating it.
Thu Sep 2, 2021, 02:43 PM
Sep 2021

I have no respect or admiration for any Republican. Living dead or otherwise. And even less for any spawn of Dick Cheneys. YMOV

NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
20. Now.... THAT is funny! 🤣😂😜
Thu Sep 2, 2021, 02:51 PM
Sep 2021
Autumn
19. No I am not suggesting that Liz Cheney doesn't deserve the role. I am fucking flat out stating it.

I have no respect or admiration for any Republican. Living dead or otherwise. And even less for any spawn of Dick Cheneys. YMOV
Now.... THAT is funny! 🤣😂😜

I'm certainly glad that the committee leadership and its members are able to look at things with a much more mature, thoughtful, measured and rational approach. I trust the committee chairman. So should you. He knows what he's doing.

As the committee has met privately, Cheney has worked closely with Democrats in determining the direction of the probe. The committee’s chairman, Mississippi Rep. Bennie Thompson, said in the statement announcing Cheney’s appointment that Democrats are “fortunate to have a partner of such strength and courage” and that Cheney’s insights have shaped the early work of the panel.

Cheney “has demonstrated again and again her commitment to getting answers about January 6th, ensuring accountability, and doing whatever it takes to protect democracy for the American people,” Thompson said.

Autumn

(44,981 posts)
21. Happy I could give you a chuckle for the day. There's no way I can repay what you have given me.
Thu Sep 2, 2021, 02:54 PM
Sep 2021

Nor would I want to.

George II

(67,782 posts)
23. Disrespectful responses notwithstanding, anyone Chairman Bennie Thompson...
Thu Sep 2, 2021, 03:10 PM
Sep 2021

... feels can do the job and work well with the rest of the committee "deserves" the position. It's not a question of being deserving, it's a question of getting the work of the committee done.

NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
24. Yes. I appreciate your mature, rational and intelligent response...
Thu Sep 2, 2021, 03:14 PM
Sep 2021

... it's not about Cheney. It's about being able to successfully meet the committee's objectives. I'm glad to see that the chairman doesn't live in a binary world where things can only be viewed as "black/white" or "good/evil".

NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
33. But would they have comprehended it, even if they bothered to read it?
Fri Sep 3, 2021, 11:24 AM
Sep 2021

There are none so blind as those who will not see. You cannot make someone pay attention to something that he or she does not want to notice, or that doesn't comport with a binary worldview that's twisted and distorted with irrational hatred. (People like that are everywhere on Twitter and elsewhere.)

George II

(67,782 posts)
34. In other words, you can lead a horse to water, but you can't make him read it. Unfortunately....
Fri Sep 3, 2021, 12:38 PM
Sep 2021

....that's the case in just about every aspect of life, intellectual, political, or just day to day.

Response to left-of-center2012 (Original post)

cadoman

(792 posts)
29. this is gonna backfire -- we should not be associating with a powerless & desperate Cheney
Thu Sep 2, 2021, 07:34 PM
Sep 2021

She's on the verge of being tossed out of her party and is only using us out of convenience.

I know she hates Trump and that helps but she also hates us so how can you know what her real motivation is? What if she gets up there and flips and tries to regain her MAGA bonifides?

I don't have any names to throw out there, but the kind of person I'd imagine we'd want is a Republican whose seat is extremely safe and as a result of that safety can prioritize our government over their own career.

Mike Nelson

(9,944 posts)
30. Well...
Thu Sep 2, 2021, 08:20 PM
Sep 2021

... I approve. Her political views are awful, but this committee is not about them... it makes the committee and Democrats look good, especially to Independents. Liz is also valuable as someone who knows the criminals and may have some leads.

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