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left-of-center2012

(34,195 posts)
Fri Sep 3, 2021, 08:21 PM Sep 2021

15 Miami-Dade educators die from COVID-19 in 10 days

Source: NBC-2 TV Ft Myers, Fla

Fifteen staffers of the Miami-Dade County Public Schools District have died from COVID-19 in the past 10 days, officials said.

Sonia Diaz, a spokesperson for several unions in the school district, confirmed the number of deaths to affiliate NBC6.

One of the educators that lost their life to COVID-19 was Abe Coleman, a teacher for more than 30 years. “It’s a tremendous loss. The number of lives that he impacted are countless. So many young men had the benefit of him intervening in their lives and pointing them in the right direction,” said Marcus Bright, with 5000 Role Models of Excellence.

Coleman was also a mentor and Site Director for the 5000 Role Models of Excellence Program, overseeing the Holmes Elementary location. He helped shape the lives of hundreds of young men over the years in the organization that mentors minority men in Miami-Dade County.

Officials haven’t released the identities of the other teachers or staff members, and a Miami-Dade County Public Schools spokesperson said the district doesn’t release the cause of death for employees or students.

Read more: https://nbc-2.com/news/health/covid/2021/09/03/15-miami-dade-educators-die-from-covid-19-in-10-days/



Congresswoman Fredricka Wilson, the founder of 5000 Role Models, released a statement saying, in part:

“Mr. Abe Coleman was a highly motivated, dedicated, and inspirational Site Director for the Holmes Elementary Role Models Chapter and never missed a day. The pandemic did not deter him.“

Abe Coleman leaves behind a wife, son and countless men he inspired.

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15 Miami-Dade educators die from COVID-19 in 10 days (Original Post) left-of-center2012 Sep 2021 OP
What in the actual fuck? onecaliberal Sep 2021 #1
This message was self-deleted by its author brush Sep 2021 #35
Kickin' Faux pas Sep 2021 #2
Why weren't they vaccinated? former9thward Sep 2021 #3
Since I am in Ohio.... FarPoint Sep 2021 #8
From what Florida DUers have posted, vaccines are plentiful in Florida. LisaL Sep 2021 #9
You can get a vaccination anywhere in the country. former9thward Sep 2021 #11
I was just thinking of the mindset of others... FarPoint Sep 2021 #13
One can get vaccinated now with minimal effort. LisaL Sep 2021 #14
Almost all of the rich and educated here in Florida are vaccinated (Republicans and democrats) cinematicdiversions Sep 2021 #34
My question too Rebl2 Sep 2021 #10
I wondered the same thing n/t radical noodle Sep 2021 #17
Damn that is heart-breaking BumRushDaShow Sep 2021 #4
why wasn't coleman vaccinated? what a fucking cryin shame nt orleans Sep 2021 #18
Unfortunately there are still a lot of people like him out there BumRushDaShow Sep 2021 #21
That probably is pretty close to the mark with some of these people. LiberatedUSA Sep 2021 #22
I was thinking of it as how some people assess "risk" BumRushDaShow Sep 2021 #23
i don't normally get a flu shot orleans Sep 2021 #26
I expect most think like you BumRushDaShow Sep 2021 #27
The Right hates public school teachers... DemocraticPatriot Sep 2021 #5
It is calculated, pre-meditated homicide. They want educators to die and students are collateral. Evolve Dammit Sep 2021 #12
Yes but these teachers were unvaccinated, according to some profiles obese and got sick before cinematicdiversions Sep 2021 #33
how long will the fascists be immune to murder charges, they continue to be above the law. nt yaesu Sep 2021 #6
An exponential crisis looms bucolic_frolic Sep 2021 #7
Yet the teachers' unions in South FL won't support mandatory vaccinations Jose Garcia Sep 2021 #15
we have kid's in floriduh , they call it the state of death ! monkeyman1 Sep 2021 #16
oh my god--that's hardly reassuring. that would certainly be keeping me up at night, worrying nt orleans Sep 2021 #19
Maybe Mr. Coleman's death can have masmdu Sep 2021 #20
Sad About These Deaths But It's Ridiculous that Any Teacher is Not Vaccinated. Indykatie Sep 2021 #24
If these teachers were not vaccinated .. left-of-center2012 Sep 2021 #25
Why assume they were not vaccinated? Maggiemayhem Sep 2021 #28
Nobody is assuming anything, that is what being reported. LisaL Sep 2021 #31
This message was self-deleted by its author Maggiemayhem Sep 2021 #29
DeSantis belongs in prison for life. sarcasmo Sep 2021 #30
DeathSantis ... BlueWavePsych Sep 2021 #32

Response to onecaliberal (Reply #1)

FarPoint

(12,293 posts)
8. Since I am in Ohio....
Fri Sep 3, 2021, 09:19 PM
Sep 2021

a shit state all the same but not with a Governor Death- Santis type....thinking, any unvaccinated teachers may not be getting easy access to vaccinations and the megaphone is apparently very loud against vaccination....resulting in more infections...

I can't imagine the level of misinformation and social peer pressure not to vaccinate as I sense it is in Florida...Just a thought.

LisaL

(44,972 posts)
9. From what Florida DUers have posted, vaccines are plentiful in Florida.
Fri Sep 3, 2021, 09:22 PM
Sep 2021

So my guess is those would be vaccine hesitant, who hesitated until it was too late for them.

former9thward

(31,947 posts)
11. You can get a vaccination anywhere in the country.
Fri Sep 3, 2021, 09:24 PM
Sep 2021

No appointments, no payments, nothing. So that is not a reason. "Peer pressure" is not a reason either. Vaccination takes about 15 minutes at the most and no knows you had a shot.

FarPoint

(12,293 posts)
13. I was just thinking of the mindset of others...
Fri Sep 3, 2021, 09:28 PM
Sep 2021

I myself am pure as they come with clinical rationale as an RN over 20 years with a background in Community Health/ Critical Care and Autoimmune Disease...so, I have to try and look at it from another aspect of the patient...

I just can't seem to grasp their hesitancy ....I struggle with this as it is so illogical.

LisaL

(44,972 posts)
14. One can get vaccinated now with minimal effort.
Fri Sep 3, 2021, 09:29 PM
Sep 2021

So that's not the reason for not being vaccinated.

 

cinematicdiversions

(1,969 posts)
34. Almost all of the rich and educated here in Florida are vaccinated (Republicans and democrats)
Mon Sep 6, 2021, 12:52 AM
Sep 2021

The people who tend not to be vaccinated at this point. (The bottom 35%) tend to be poor and uneducated.

It is often as much a class and education divide as political. Since the Republicans tend to be poor and uneducated they invariably dominate the unvaccinated numbers. But to have educated middle-class professionals skip the vaccine is an outlier.

BumRushDaShow

(128,527 posts)
4. Damn that is heart-breaking
Fri Sep 3, 2021, 08:31 PM
Sep 2021

and he was 55. Found an article with some additional info that I had been looking for and unfortunately suspected -

3 Miami-Dade Educators Die From COVID-19; District Doubles Down on Mask Policy

By Alyssa Hyman • Published September 1, 2021 • Updated on September 2, 2021 at 10:17 am
2:13/ 2:23


Three educators from Miami-Dade County Public Schools have died within a week due to COVID-19, the teachers union confirmed Wednesday.

Karla Hernandez-Mats, the president of the United Teacher of Dade, said it appears the teachers got sick before the start of the school year but is still waiting to confirm that. They were not vaccinated.

"I can tell you that these were phenomenal human beings. These are people that dedicated their lives to serving our community," Hernandez-Mats said. Among those who passed was beloved math teacher Abe Coleman, who had been with the district for more than 30 years. He was also a mentor with the 5000 Role Models of Excellence Project.

"We're going to be grieving for a while," Hernandez-Mats said. "As a teacher, I have to make sure the message is that we're teaching our community to be safe, to continue to socially distance, to wash your hands, but please, get vaccinated."

https://www.nbcmiami.com/news/local/schools-and-covid/3-miami-dade-educators-die-from-covid-19-district-doubles-down-on-mask-policy/2542578/

BumRushDaShow

(128,527 posts)
21. Unfortunately there are still a lot of people like him out there
Sat Sep 4, 2021, 05:51 AM
Sep 2021

At this point in the pandemic - over 1 1/2 years - I am thinking there is a subset of people who "hesitated" or didn't prioritize getting the shot when it was made available. So figuring that they "survived" unscathed the previous year when there was no vaccine, they assumed they would be fine now.

This mentality is sort of like the flu shot - for example I found this stat where only 49% of people got the flu shot for the 2018/2019 season - https://usafacts.org/articles/how-many-americans-get-flu-shots-vaccine-cdc/. And what happens in that case, if they did get the flu, they were miserable but unless they really had some underlying respiratory issues prior, they recovered, didn't die, and didn't have any long-term damage to their body.

But queue the Delta variant for COVID-19 and all those "assumptions" about being "in the clear", and having no problem "recovering" without any long term damage (since they "recovered" from a flu infection in the past), let alone dismissing the higher potential for death (vs the flu), were wrong.

So I think you do have those who don't normally get flu shots (not counting any who medically cannot do so) not bothering with a COVID-19 one.

BumRushDaShow

(128,527 posts)
23. I was thinking of it as how some people assess "risk"
Sat Sep 4, 2021, 06:46 AM
Sep 2021

There are quite a few out there who tolerate more "risk" (in whatever they do) and often feel a sense of "superiority" because they think others are running around with their hair on fire, while they believe themselves to be "the adult in the room".

That mentality spills over into not taking COVID-19 (and particularly its more lethal variants) seriously enough. One doesn't have to go hyperbolic about it but dismissing it outright, without giving it the respect it is due by considering "common sense" precautions, is a foolish decision.

orleans

(34,042 posts)
26. i don't normally get a flu shot
Sat Sep 4, 2021, 11:26 AM
Sep 2021

i actually did get one a couple years ago, probably 2018/2019 season.

so i'm in that particular category of flu shot indifference

however, it was apples and oranges when it came to comparing it to the covid vaccine (in my mind)

i couldn't wait to get the covid vaccine

but perhaps that apples to oranges was due, in part, to the news i was hearing (not fox) and who i was believing (not trump who said it was like the flu)



BumRushDaShow

(128,527 posts)
27. I expect most think like you
Sat Sep 4, 2021, 12:35 PM
Sep 2021

and make continual assessments of personal risk to yourself and probably how your decision could impact others.

For others, it might come down to past medical history or health experiences as I have known many over the years who always claimed to have "never gotten sick" during their lifetimes. I.e., they were the kid who had "perfect attendance" at school or the adult who "never missed a day of work". And it's possible that the statement is true for a few if their immune systems are highly tuned for whatever (possibly genetic) reasons and/or whatever illness they might have contracted was not enough to knock them out on their backs.

But then this might fuel a false sense of "invincibility" to any illness and when it comes to the more contagious and lethal COVID-19 variants, that is the worst type of mentality to have.

DemocraticPatriot

(4,313 posts)
5. The Right hates public school teachers...
Fri Sep 3, 2021, 08:31 PM
Sep 2021

You know, I think I could be starting to see one motivation for the "no mask mandate" stances of the fascist governors of Florida and Texas....

The teachers and other adults in schools are clearly faring worse than the students, because COVID hits the adults harder (although yes, that is starting to change some).

DeSantis and Abbott and any other GOP governors following their types of pro-covid policies are clearly murderers.
I won't apologize for hoping that they get what's coming to them.

"And that right soon"






Evolve Dammit

(16,702 posts)
12. It is calculated, pre-meditated homicide. They want educators to die and students are collateral.
Fri Sep 3, 2021, 09:27 PM
Sep 2021

It's pretty clear, albeit abhorrent to the point that most can't fathom the depth of their sociopathic depravity. How else do you explain it?

 

cinematicdiversions

(1,969 posts)
33. Yes but these teachers were unvaccinated, according to some profiles obese and got sick before
Sun Sep 5, 2021, 03:06 PM
Sep 2021

school started.

I hate DeSantis as well but he isn't stopping a well educated 55 year old African American male from getting vaccinated in the last nine months.

That I am afraid is on the individual.

masmdu

(2,535 posts)
20. Maybe Mr. Coleman's death can have
Sat Sep 4, 2021, 04:38 AM
Sep 2021

as large an impact as his life did by serving as an example of how important it is get vaccinated!

Indykatie

(3,695 posts)
24. Sad About These Deaths But It's Ridiculous that Any Teacher is Not Vaccinated.
Sat Sep 4, 2021, 10:02 AM
Sep 2021

All 15 may not have been un-vaccinated but I bet the majority were because vaccinated folks rarely die from COVID.

Maggiemayhem

(807 posts)
28. Why assume they were not vaccinated?
Sat Sep 4, 2021, 01:32 PM
Sep 2021

There are breakthrough cases that result in death. That is why we are getting boosters and why masking and social distancing is so important. The only way to stop this is for holdouts to get the jab. Vaccines are not 100%. I live in WV with a low vaccine rate and no mask mandate. You see where our state is heading. WV has had breakthrough deaths.

LisaL

(44,972 posts)
31. Nobody is assuming anything, that is what being reported.
Sat Sep 4, 2021, 01:41 PM
Sep 2021

"Miami-Dade County Public Schools teachers who decided not to receive the protection of any of the three COVID-19 vaccines that are available for free are dying. Miami-Dade Superintendent Alberto Carvalho said he has a “strong” message for teachers: “Get vaccinated!”"

https://www.local10.com/news/local/2021/09/01/3-unvaccinated-miami-dade-teachers-die-of-covid-19-union-rep-says/

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