Former Marine wearing body armor fatally shoots four people, including baby in mother's arms, Florid
Source: CNN
Full headline:
Former Marine wearing body armor fatally shoots four people, including baby in mother's arms, Florida sheriff says
(CNN) A former Marine outfitted in body armor fatally shot four people, including a baby, mother and grandmother, at a property outside Lakeland, Florida, early Sunday morning in what the local sheriff called an "active shooter rampage."
The suspect, identified as Brian Riley, 33, then engaged in a firefight with law enforcement officers before surrendering to authorities, but he later attempted to take a gun from an officer at a hospital, Polk County Sheriff Grady Judd said.
Afterward, deputies found four people dead: a 40-year-old man, a 3-month-old baby and the baby's 33-year-old mother inside the home, and the baby's 62-year-old grandmother in a second house on the property, Judd said. The family's dog, Diogi, was also fatally shot, he added.
An 11-year-old girl had been shot multiple times and was airlifted to Tampa General Hospital for surgery. She is expected to recover. Another child who had earlier been missing was located alive and well, Judd said.
Read more: https://www.cnn.com/2021/09/05/us/florida-shooting-infant/index.html
Archae
(46,314 posts)Jedi Guy
(3,185 posts)No doubt the meth didn't help matters.
winstars
(4,219 posts)From the CNN story:
Riley served four years in the Marines and was honorably discharged, and then he did another three years in the reserve, Judd said. He was deployed to Iraq in 2008 and Afghanistan in 2009-2010 as a designated sharpshooter, the sheriff said.
Riley was employed by ESS Global Corp as a body guard and to provide security, Judd said. He has a concealed weapon's license and virtually no criminal history.
"We're not dealing with a traditional criminal here. What we're dealing with is someone who obviously had mental health issues at least this last week, had PTSD," Judd said.
While in custody, the suspect told deputies that he was a "survivalist," the sheriff said. The term generally refers to a person who proactively prepares for a post-apocalyptic world
brush
(53,764 posts)and then later in the hospital trying to take a gun from an officer.
There's a phrase for that.
Jedi Guy
(3,185 posts)There are plenty of examples of POC killing cops, or even kids, and then being taken alive. Continuing to violently resist arrest, flee while armed and dangerous, or shoot at officers is a fantastic way to get a few extra breathing holes. Surrendering, on the other hand, generally has a better outcome for all involved.
The guy in this incident shot at officers, who returned fire and hit him, so it's not as if they sat there and did nothing because he was white. After that he surrendered and came out with his hands up, which is the only reason he's still breathing. Had he kept on going, they'd have either seriously wounded or killed him.
Insofar as the bit about him trying to take a cop's gun in the hospital, impossible to say without knowing the details. Had he gotten the cop's gun out of the holster, odds are extremely good another officer would have shot him dead. If he made a grab for it but never got control of the weapon, I still wouldn't have been all that shocked if he'd been shot. Cops are always worried about having their guns taken and used against them, they're specifically trained in how to prevent that exact scenario.
winstars
(4,219 posts)Jedi Guy
(3,185 posts)greenjar_01
(6,477 posts)So little value.
Jedi Guy
(3,185 posts)denbot
(9,899 posts)Is that how Tucker will play it, or are you just rifting?
Jedi Guy
(3,185 posts)If you believe something I said was untrue, kindly let me know and I'll be happy to debate the point with you.
greenjar_01
(6,477 posts)Fuck's sake.
He killed an infant!
IronLionZion
(45,421 posts)Might be a very different story if the dude high on meth wearing body armor getting visions from God didn't have access to guns because of his PTSD. 4 innocent people had to pay the price for freedom
Slammer
(714 posts)The headline seems to inappropriately focus on "Marine" and "body armor" rather than "mentally ill drug addict with automatic weapon".
Because PTSD doesn't typically cause you to hear God's voice talking to you.
Galraedia
(5,022 posts)ck4829
(35,042 posts)liberalla
(9,234 posts)why this property? Why the focus on this family? It doesn't seem random to me... but it's horrible.
What a terrible thing for this family...
LisaL
(44,973 posts)No connection to the family.
TallJohn
(27 posts)DURHAM D
(32,609 posts)MustLoveBeagles
(11,587 posts)Javaman
(62,516 posts)Thats a new and terrifying phrase I havent heard before
Aussie105
(5,377 posts)Until they work out why, and what to do about it.
Going off active service and rejoining normal society is difficult for many.
What to do about it?
HINT: Stop having overseas wars, stop sending young men to foreign lands, stop letting ex-servicemen back into normal society and then ignoring them, expecting them to adjust well and quickly. Many can't, many don't.
tclambert
(11,085 posts)Or maybe they're praying to the WRONG GOD! Remember to pray to the old white guy with a long white beard who wears a long white nightshirt. And throw in a mention of his white, blue-eyed son with the light brown slightly wavy hair, and holes in his hands and feet. (Don't ask Him to walk on water. He doesn't do that any more since He got those holes in His feet.)
Oh, I forgot about the Holy Ghost. Um, no idea what He (It?) looks like. I don't think anyone actually prays to the Holy Ghost. Sometimes they'll add at the end, "In the name of Father, Son, and Holy Ghost" even though I bet none of them actually know what name the Holy Ghost goes by. Could it be Amin?
JustADumbFireman
(59 posts)cstanleytech
(26,280 posts)Now would banning them outright stop a gun violence? No
But it's helped do so in countries like New Zealand far more than advocating for people to carry and own more guns in the US that some people keep insisting is the answer.
Progressive Jones
(6,011 posts)Vinca
(50,260 posts)While the GOP spouts their BS that guns don't kill people, people kill people there are dead bodies here, there and everywhere and no one is safe. Not even a baby in its mother's arms.
RussBLib
(9,006 posts)We usually don't hear about a motive.