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George II

(67,782 posts)
Sun Sep 5, 2021, 05:27 PM Sep 2021

Former Marine wearing body armor fatally shoots four people, including baby in mother's arms, Florid

Source: CNN

Full headline:

Former Marine wearing body armor fatally shoots four people, including baby in mother's arms, Florida sheriff says

(CNN) A former Marine outfitted in body armor fatally shot four people, including a baby, mother and grandmother, at a property outside Lakeland, Florida, early Sunday morning in what the local sheriff called an "active shooter rampage."

The suspect, identified as Brian Riley, 33, then engaged in a firefight with law enforcement officers before surrendering to authorities, but he later attempted to take a gun from an officer at a hospital, Polk County Sheriff Grady Judd said.

Afterward, deputies found four people dead: a 40-year-old man, a 3-month-old baby and the baby's 33-year-old mother inside the home, and the baby's 62-year-old grandmother in a second house on the property, Judd said. The family's dog, Diogi, was also fatally shot, he added.

An 11-year-old girl had been shot multiple times and was airlifted to Tampa General Hospital for surgery. She is expected to recover. Another child who had earlier been missing was located alive and well, Judd said.


Read more: https://www.cnn.com/2021/09/05/us/florida-shooting-infant/index.html

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Former Marine wearing body armor fatally shoots four people, including baby in mother's arms, Florid (Original Post) George II Sep 2021 OP
According to ABC he claimed he was smoking meth. Archae Sep 2021 #1
According to CNN, his girlfriend said he has PTSD and recently began "talking to God." Jedi Guy Sep 2021 #13
Going out on a limb here... NOT killed by the cops, he's probably not a POC.. Just a guess... winstars Sep 2021 #2
Good guess on him not being a POC. Not killed after two shootouts... brush Sep 2021 #5
You might be right in this instance, but hardly always. Jedi Guy Sep 2021 #12
Cool story 'bro... winstars Sep 2021 #15
Yep, facts are pretty cool. N/T Jedi Guy Sep 2021 #16
So many words greenjar_01 Sep 2021 #19
So few words, no value at all. N/T Jedi Guy Sep 2021 #27
Bah ha ha ha ha.. Totally cool story bru.. denbot Sep 2021 #24
No, because Tucker deals only in lies. Nothing I said was untrue. Jedi Guy Sep 2021 #28
"not...a traditional criminal" "obviously had mental health issues" greenjar_01 Sep 2021 #18
"We just know we had a madman with a lot of guns that shot and killed innocent people," he said. IronLionZion Sep 2021 #3
headline news Slammer Sep 2021 #4
Right wingers: "If that baby had a gun he could have stop the shooter." Galraedia Sep 2021 #6
Where was he radicalized? ck4829 Sep 2021 #7
+1 intheflow Sep 2021 #9
He has a relationship or connection to this family? If not, why this group of people? liberalla Sep 2021 #8
Sounds like it could have been anybody. LisaL Sep 2021 #11
Suspect Bryan Riley in the Lakeland shootings TallJohn Sep 2021 #10
Small man. nt DURHAM D Sep 2021 #17
In more ways than one MustLoveBeagles Sep 2021 #21
active shooter rampage. Javaman Sep 2021 #14
And it will keep happening. Aussie105 Sep 2021 #20
Republicans will say it keeps happening because not enough people offer thoughts and prayers. tclambert Sep 2021 #22
Points for CORRECT form "Amin"! JustADumbFireman Sep 2021 #25
The main reason is because guns are very easy to get ahold of in this country. cstanleytech Sep 2021 #23
This nation's addiction to guns is a mental illness all it's own. nt Progressive Jones Sep 2021 #29
Until there is some regulation over gun ownership, this will continue to happen. Vinca Sep 2021 #26
No motive? As usual. RussBLib Sep 2021 #30

Jedi Guy

(3,185 posts)
13. According to CNN, his girlfriend said he has PTSD and recently began "talking to God."
Sun Sep 5, 2021, 07:50 PM
Sep 2021

No doubt the meth didn't help matters.

winstars

(4,219 posts)
2. Going out on a limb here... NOT killed by the cops, he's probably not a POC.. Just a guess...
Sun Sep 5, 2021, 05:33 PM
Sep 2021

From the CNN story:

Riley served four years in the Marines and was honorably discharged, and then he did another three years in the reserve, Judd said. He was deployed to Iraq in 2008 and Afghanistan in 2009-2010 as a designated sharpshooter, the sheriff said.

Riley was employed by ESS Global Corp as a body guard and to provide security, Judd said. He has a concealed weapon's license and virtually no criminal history.
"We're not dealing with a traditional criminal here. What we're dealing with is someone who obviously had mental health issues at least this last week, had PTSD," Judd said.

While in custody, the suspect told deputies that he was a "survivalist," the sheriff said. The term generally refers to a person who proactively prepares for a post-apocalyptic world

brush

(53,764 posts)
5. Good guess on him not being a POC. Not killed after two shootouts...
Sun Sep 5, 2021, 06:04 PM
Sep 2021

and then later in the hospital trying to take a gun from an officer.

There's a phrase for that.

Jedi Guy

(3,185 posts)
12. You might be right in this instance, but hardly always.
Sun Sep 5, 2021, 07:44 PM
Sep 2021

There are plenty of examples of POC killing cops, or even kids, and then being taken alive. Continuing to violently resist arrest, flee while armed and dangerous, or shoot at officers is a fantastic way to get a few extra breathing holes. Surrendering, on the other hand, generally has a better outcome for all involved.

The guy in this incident shot at officers, who returned fire and hit him, so it's not as if they sat there and did nothing because he was white. After that he surrendered and came out with his hands up, which is the only reason he's still breathing. Had he kept on going, they'd have either seriously wounded or killed him.

Insofar as the bit about him trying to take a cop's gun in the hospital, impossible to say without knowing the details. Had he gotten the cop's gun out of the holster, odds are extremely good another officer would have shot him dead. If he made a grab for it but never got control of the weapon, I still wouldn't have been all that shocked if he'd been shot. Cops are always worried about having their guns taken and used against them, they're specifically trained in how to prevent that exact scenario.

denbot

(9,899 posts)
24. Bah ha ha ha ha.. Totally cool story bru..
Mon Sep 6, 2021, 03:17 AM
Sep 2021

Is that how Tucker will play it, or are you just rifting?

Jedi Guy

(3,185 posts)
28. No, because Tucker deals only in lies. Nothing I said was untrue.
Mon Sep 6, 2021, 10:28 AM
Sep 2021

If you believe something I said was untrue, kindly let me know and I'll be happy to debate the point with you.

 

greenjar_01

(6,477 posts)
18. "not...a traditional criminal" "obviously had mental health issues"
Mon Sep 6, 2021, 12:07 AM
Sep 2021

Fuck's sake.

He killed an infant!

IronLionZion

(45,421 posts)
3. "We just know we had a madman with a lot of guns that shot and killed innocent people," he said.
Sun Sep 5, 2021, 05:35 PM
Sep 2021
At a press conference Sunday afternoon, Judd said there did not appear to be any connection between the suspect and the victims, and he struggled to explain why the suspect chose that particular family and property.


Might be a very different story if the dude high on meth wearing body armor getting visions from God didn't have access to guns because of his PTSD. 4 innocent people had to pay the price for freedom

Slammer

(714 posts)
4. headline news
Sun Sep 5, 2021, 05:41 PM
Sep 2021

The headline seems to inappropriately focus on "Marine" and "body armor" rather than "mentally ill drug addict with automatic weapon".

Because PTSD doesn't typically cause you to hear God's voice talking to you.

liberalla

(9,234 posts)
8. He has a relationship or connection to this family? If not, why this group of people?
Sun Sep 5, 2021, 06:28 PM
Sep 2021

why this property? Why the focus on this family? It doesn't seem random to me... but it's horrible.

What a terrible thing for this family...

Aussie105

(5,377 posts)
20. And it will keep happening.
Mon Sep 6, 2021, 12:24 AM
Sep 2021

Until they work out why, and what to do about it.

Going off active service and rejoining normal society is difficult for many.

What to do about it?
HINT: Stop having overseas wars, stop sending young men to foreign lands, stop letting ex-servicemen back into normal society and then ignoring them, expecting them to adjust well and quickly. Many can't, many don't.

tclambert

(11,085 posts)
22. Republicans will say it keeps happening because not enough people offer thoughts and prayers.
Mon Sep 6, 2021, 12:58 AM
Sep 2021

Or maybe they're praying to the WRONG GOD! Remember to pray to the old white guy with a long white beard who wears a long white nightshirt. And throw in a mention of his white, blue-eyed son with the light brown slightly wavy hair, and holes in his hands and feet. (Don't ask Him to walk on water. He doesn't do that any more since He got those holes in His feet.)

Oh, I forgot about the Holy Ghost. Um, no idea what He (It?) looks like. I don't think anyone actually prays to the Holy Ghost. Sometimes they'll add at the end, "In the name of Father, Son, and Holy Ghost" even though I bet none of them actually know what name the Holy Ghost goes by. Could it be Amin?

cstanleytech

(26,280 posts)
23. The main reason is because guns are very easy to get ahold of in this country.
Mon Sep 6, 2021, 02:55 AM
Sep 2021

Now would banning them outright stop a gun violence? No
But it's helped do so in countries like New Zealand far more than advocating for people to carry and own more guns in the US that some people keep insisting is the answer.

Vinca

(50,260 posts)
26. Until there is some regulation over gun ownership, this will continue to happen.
Mon Sep 6, 2021, 07:52 AM
Sep 2021

While the GOP spouts their BS that guns don't kill people, people kill people there are dead bodies here, there and everywhere and no one is safe. Not even a baby in its mother's arms.

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