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Omaha Steve

(99,493 posts)
Tue Sep 7, 2021, 04:22 PM Sep 2021

Idaho hospitals begin rationing health care amid COVID surge

Source: AP

By REBECCA BOONE

BOISE, Idaho (AP) — Idaho public health leaders announced Tuesday that they activated “crisis standards of care” allowing health care rationing for the state’s northern hospitals because there are more coronavirus patients than the institutions can handle.

The Idaho Department of Health and Welfare quietly enacted the move Monday and publicly announced it in a statement Tuesday morning — warning residents that they may not get the care they would normally expect if they need to be hospitalized.

The move came as the state’s confirmed coronavirus cases skyrocketed in recent weeks. Idaho has one of the lowest vaccination rates in the U.S.

The state health agency cited “a severe shortage of staffing and available beds in the northern area of the state caused by a massive increase in patients with COVID-19 who require hospitalization.”



FILE - In this Aug. 31, 2021, file photo, Jack Kingsley R.N. attends to a COVID-19 patient in the Medical Intensive care unit (MICU) at St. Luke's Boise Medical Center in Boise, Idaho. Idaho public health leaders have activated "crisis standards of care" for the state's northern hospitals because there are more coronavirus patients than the institutions can handle. The Idaho Department of Health and Welfare made the announcement Tuesday, Sept. 7. (AP Photo/Kyle Green, File)


Read more: https://apnews.com/article/business-health-public-health-coronavirus-pandemic-idaho-db21f9a14254996144e78aafb1518259



Death panels thanks to Republicans?
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Idaho hospitals begin rationing health care amid COVID surge (Original Post) Omaha Steve Sep 2021 OP
Tents in the parking lot Jilly_in_VA Sep 2021 #1
Doesn't sound harsh to me at all Rural_Progressive Sep 2021 #4
Absolutely! SheltieLover Sep 2021 #5
Not tents, but separate facilities. wnylib Sep 2021 #11
they have a "severe shortage of staffing" stillcool Sep 2021 #12
With incentives for the staff of wnylib Sep 2021 #29
Old vacant stores, like Kmarts. roamer65 Sep 2021 #19
They would need refurbishing and equipment. wnylib Sep 2021 #31
Those would work 2 roamer65 Sep 2021 #33
Harsh? Hardly. Equomba Sep 2021 #13
Welcome to DU. Equomba! calimary Sep 2021 #20
That's be just about how an overwhelming outbreak will have to be handled NotASurfer Sep 2021 #26
The largest Hospital in North Idaho BlueIdaho Sep 2021 #30
Ditto. n/t iluvtennis Sep 2021 #34
No vaccination, no hospitalization. It is that simple. olddad65 Sep 2021 #35
Will Sarah Palin be called in to advise them in setting up GOP death panels? NCjack Sep 2021 #2
Don't need her. The entire republi-CON party IS a death panel. calimary Sep 2021 #17
+100 The Unmitigated Gall Sep 2021 #36
This message was self-deleted by its author sop Sep 2021 #3
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Sep 2021 #6
Treat the vaccinated first. mpcamb Sep 2021 #22
So these are GOP death panels . . . right? Vinca Sep 2021 #7
That's the first thing that came to my mind as well. n/t progressoid Sep 2021 #8
Same with me: "so the GOP finally got their death panels .." ....nt Jarqui Sep 2021 #24
In my opinion there are a number of Republican governors that should be brought to trial for cstanleytech Sep 2021 #9
Some stupid right wing site Mz Pip Sep 2021 #10
Why do people who don't believe in the virus or the vaccine AllyCat Sep 2021 #14
They should stay home and away from others..... KS Toronado Sep 2021 #21
We are headed for the same situation here in Montana soon if we haven't hit it already. Ford_Prefect Sep 2021 #15
I'm also in Montana and it is driving me crazy that people here are acting as if Covid is over. LaMouffette Sep 2021 #25
The local media seem to be 2 faced about it too. Ford_Prefect Sep 2021 #28
You're right! I think the news stations are terrified of turning off any portion of their viewership LaMouffette Sep 2021 #32
FQX non-news will start calling them death panels and blame Biden for them. KS Toronado Sep 2021 #16
I think of all the pain and sorrow that these families have and many now without a mom or riversedge Sep 2021 #18
Which is why I blame so much of this on Facebook. Initech Sep 2021 #27
Liberal Socialists are rationing healthcare only in red states IronLionZion Sep 2021 #23

Jilly_in_VA

(9,941 posts)
1. Tents in the parking lot
Tue Sep 7, 2021, 04:48 PM
Sep 2021

should be erected for unvaccinated Covid patients. Unvaccinated staff and volunteers/family can care for them out there. If that sounds harsh, that's how I feel. They are the ones driving the pandemic now.

Rural_Progressive

(1,105 posts)
4. Doesn't sound harsh to me at all
Tue Sep 7, 2021, 04:59 PM
Sep 2021

You're okay with putting up tents, much more generous than how I feel about them.

May have a little to do with the fact you're in VA and I'm in WA.

SheltieLover

(57,073 posts)
5. Absolutely!
Tue Sep 7, 2021, 05:05 PM
Sep 2021

Pls read this:

https://www.statnews.com/2021/08/13/elective-surgeries-delayed-again-doctors-response/

My friend had heart attack 1 wk ago.

Waited EIGHT HRS for care because magats, willfully unvaxed, have overrun hospitals (TN)!

Dr. Sent her home with rxs to protect her from the cesspool of covid our hospitals have become!

wnylib

(21,334 posts)
11. Not tents, but separate facilities.
Tue Sep 7, 2021, 05:41 PM
Sep 2021

Communities need to set up separate clinics that specialize in covid cases. In large metropolitan areas, maybe one or two hospitals could be designated for covid so the rest can operate as usual. In areas away from metropolitan centers, states could set up separate clinics. It would be more efficient and would not disrupt hospital functions for everyone else.

stillcool

(32,626 posts)
12. they have a "severe shortage of staffing"
Tue Sep 7, 2021, 05:52 PM
Sep 2021

I have read the National Guard medical personnel have been sent out to different states in dire straits. Kind of amazing it's becoming normal, along with no consequences.

wnylib

(21,334 posts)
29. With incentives for the staff of
Tue Sep 7, 2021, 08:27 PM
Sep 2021

a specialized clinic, it might work. I'm not sure what the incentives would be since money is usually a good incentive and covid care is costly, with little money coming in from most patients. Federal funding, maybe. Good PPE, counselng available for the staff, rotating staff to allow time off to recharge their energy. That requires enough staff, I know, but if relief time was an incentive, it might draw enough people to make it possible.

wnylib

(21,334 posts)
31. They would need refurbishing and equipment.
Tue Sep 7, 2021, 08:41 PM
Sep 2021

Maybe turn some existing clinics into covid care centers. They would still need additional equipment, but not as much remodeling. Last year at New York's peak, some Catholic hospitals converted to being exclusively covid hospitals.

 

Equomba

(197 posts)
13. Harsh? Hardly.
Tue Sep 7, 2021, 05:53 PM
Sep 2021

My niece's husband is a nurse, working in a hospital in Spokane. He said a number of the nurses and staff are quitting. And as Spokane is only 10 miles or so from Idaho, I would take it a step further... if you're unvaccinated and can't show proof of residency in WA then go back home. Otherwise, you get a tent and are treated ONLY AFTER the normal people are taken care of.

I'm completely over these idiots.

calimary

(81,103 posts)
20. Welcome to DU. Equomba!
Tue Sep 7, 2021, 06:13 PM
Sep 2021

That's almost exactly what I wrote in another thread. Put 'em in tents OUTSIDE the hospital, and reserve the hospital beds and the full-on intensive care units for people needing treatment for other problems and ailments. OR they're suffering from COVID but can provide proof that they DID get vaccinated.

There should be CONSEQUENCES for bad, reckless, selfish, and anti-social behavior! No you DON'T get first-class treatment when you willfully, deliberately, selfishly didn't take the recommended precautions and just went dancing around your merry and fiendishly ignorant way. You deserve to lie in the bed YOU made.

NotASurfer

(2,146 posts)
26. That's be just about how an overwhelming outbreak will have to be handled
Tue Sep 7, 2021, 07:28 PM
Sep 2021

Hospital breaks out its last resort contingency plans, commandeers a tent or parking garage, and triages the Covid patients. Prioritize life-threatening non-Covid medical treatment, so you still have a functional medical facility, they go directly to the ER.

Before it gets to that, we'll start to see large facilities converted to temporary Covid-only overflow hospitals. We didn't have to use them much the last time. At least this time we have competent adult leadership

BlueIdaho

(13,582 posts)
30. The largest Hospital in North Idaho
Tue Sep 7, 2021, 08:37 PM
Sep 2021

Has an abandoned Shopco right across the street. Since Gov. do-Little has activated the national guard it would be easy enough to set up a separate facility for unvaccinated infected patients. That way the hospital could get back to treating those non-covid cases (heart conditions, hip replacements, and neurosurgical conditions) that are currently being told to go suck eggs.

We the vaccinated need to stress our rights as a majority.

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cstanleytech

(26,227 posts)
9. In my opinion there are a number of Republican governors that should be brought to trial for
Tue Sep 7, 2021, 05:35 PM
Sep 2021

crimes against humanity as their deliberate actions are causing thousands of deaths.

Mz Pip

(27,430 posts)
10. Some stupid right wing site
Tue Sep 7, 2021, 05:37 PM
Sep 2021

posted the vaccine mandates are the problem. The hospitals wouldn’t be short staffed if they didn’t have the mandates. People are quitting rather than get vaccinated.

I can’t wrap my head around so much stupid.

AllyCat

(16,140 posts)
14. Why do people who don't believe in the virus or the vaccine
Tue Sep 7, 2021, 06:03 PM
Sep 2021

Go to the hospital? Why don’t they just stay home? Do they get scared when it IS real or think it is something else?

KS Toronado

(17,145 posts)
21. They should stay home and away from others.....
Tue Sep 7, 2021, 06:15 PM
Sep 2021

and drink bleach or ivermectin or hydroxychloroquine for Der orange Fuhrer, and prove to the
world alternate medicine works, and will be the basis for the new repug health care plan.

Ford_Prefect

(7,870 posts)
15. We are headed for the same situation here in Montana soon if we haven't hit it already.
Tue Sep 7, 2021, 06:05 PM
Sep 2021

ICUs are full or filling up with new COVID cases of which 100% are unvaxed. But no mask or other health actions mandate from Gov. Greg give-em-hell Gianforte.

LaMouffette

(2,019 posts)
25. I'm also in Montana and it is driving me crazy that people here are acting as if Covid is over.
Tue Sep 7, 2021, 07:25 PM
Sep 2021

I'm still masking up (never stopped, actually, even though fully vaxxed) and avoiding crowds like the plague (literally), but anytime I have to go shopping, I only see maybe 5 percent of the other customers wearing a mask, no matter where I go.

I think the comparatively low rate of Covid in Montana has made anti-maskers and anti-vaxxers even more convinced that the virus is a hoax. They don't seem to realize that our low Covid rate is more likely due to our low population than anything else. But we're catching up to the rest of the states now, courtesy of Covid and Greg I-Like-to-Beat-Up-Reporters Gianforte and the R-controlled Montana legislature.

Unless they get it (the virus), they will never "get it" (understand that we are in an unprecedented public health crisis).

Ford_Prefect

(7,870 posts)
28. The local media seem to be 2 faced about it too.
Tue Sep 7, 2021, 08:20 PM
Sep 2021

Reporting the exciting gatherings for concerts and county fairs as if it were all over. At the same time we have grim faced TV anchors reporting how fast the spike in new COVID cases has filled the hospitals seemingly without the context that 89% of the newly ill are unvaxed and many are very young. No one seems willing to confront Gianforte or his lackeys in county and town commissions. We have the same numbers of health care workers leaving from burn-out or disgust as Idaho and other places facing overload but that's not reported either or the editors are stifling it.

I've never stopped masking. I do not intend to until we're at least 90% vaxed and I've had the booster. With one virulent variant here and at least 2 more coming soon it simply is NOT safe. You cannot tell who's had the shots and who is just mugging for the cameras.

LaMouffette

(2,019 posts)
32. You're right! I think the news stations are terrified of turning off any portion of their viewership
Tue Sep 7, 2021, 09:06 PM
Sep 2021

or, more likely, their sponsors, both groups made up largely of Republican Trump humpers. So, not wanting to offend any Republicans in our crimson red state, they refuse to sound the alarm on Covid and continue to cover the "happy news."

But they are doing a terrible disservice to Montanans by reinforcing the idea that everyone can go back to normal now and anyone who is still worried about Covid is just being paranoid.

KS Toronado

(17,145 posts)
16. FQX non-news will start calling them death panels and blame Biden for them.
Tue Sep 7, 2021, 06:06 PM
Sep 2021

And in their next breath claim masks/vaccines are unhealthy for you.
"Oh what a lovely web you weave"

riversedge

(70,077 posts)
18. I think of all the pain and sorrow that these families have and many now without a mom or
Tue Sep 7, 2021, 06:09 PM
Sep 2021

dad. So much loss and it did not have to happen.

Initech

(100,036 posts)
27. Which is why I blame so much of this on Facebook.
Tue Sep 7, 2021, 07:32 PM
Sep 2021

10 years of anti-vaccine propaganda and social media brainwashing is what got us here.

IronLionZion

(45,380 posts)
23. Liberal Socialists are rationing healthcare only in red states
Tue Sep 7, 2021, 06:53 PM
Sep 2021

coincidentally, it is a vast liberal conspiracy that COVID is mostly causing hospitalizations among unvaccinated conservatives these days.

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