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mahatmakanejeeves

(57,446 posts)
Thu Sep 9, 2021, 08:21 AM Sep 2021

White House Unveils Plan to Cut Prescription-Drug Prices

Source: The Wall Street Journal.

WSJ NEWS EXCLUSIVE | HEALTH POLICY

White House Unveils Plan to Cut Prescription-Drug Prices

The Biden administration plan supports legislation to empower the government to negotiate Medicare drug prices

By Stephanie Armour
https://twitter.com/stepharmour1
Stephanie.Armour@wsj.com
Sept. 9, 2021 6:00 am ET

A Biden administration plan to lower prescription-drug prices offers the first detailed road map of administrative actions the White House would support in addition to legislation aimed at driving down costs.

The plan, to be released Thursday, backs legislation from congressional Democrats, including a push to empower the federal government to negotiate for drug prices in Medicare and pass those lower costs along to the private sector. The road map goes further, however, by outlining administrative actions by agencies and departments that could come in concert with possible legislative changes.

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White House Unveils Plan to Cut Prescription-Drug Prices (Original Post) mahatmakanejeeves Sep 2021 OP
ITS A COMMIE SOCIALIST PLOTTTT!!!!! mucifer Sep 2021 #1
Sounds great! Sherman A1 Sep 2021 #2
+1 brer cat Sep 2021 #3
I still think they could be banned like cigarettes were. llmart Sep 2021 #8
+1 n/t area51 Sep 2021 #10
The Ads Are Bribes DanieRains Sep 2021 #4
Y'all Didn't Know That? DanieRains Sep 2021 #5
Indeed Puppyjive Sep 2021 #17
personally, i disagree. mopinko Sep 2021 #7
Then we must agree to disagree Sherman A1 Sep 2021 #9
well, you're a privileged character. mopinko Sep 2021 #11
I do have a primary doctor Sherman A1 Sep 2021 #13
you are rly missing the point. mopinko Sep 2021 #14
Not missing the point at all Sherman A1 Sep 2021 #15
whatevs. mopinko Sep 2021 #16
Hardly deifying anything Sherman A1 Sep 2021 #18
Don't you have a primary physician? SergeStorms Sep 2021 #19
i'm in one of the best systems in the country. mopinko Sep 2021 #21
OMG! SergeStorms Sep 2021 #24
well, actually mopinko Sep 2021 #25
I don't have a primary doc either yet...can't afford the 80/20 coverage Backseat Driver Sep 2021 #26
That's exactly what 1st ended our "happy days" in the early 80s. Backseat Driver Sep 2021 #28
"Bug Your Doc" Ads... GB_RN Sep 2021 #29
Joe Mancin will be apoplectic. lark Sep 2021 #6
She was. SergeStorms Sep 2021 #20
DM Type II drugs treat symptoms not the root problem(s)... Backseat Driver Sep 2021 #27
A friend of mine DownriverDem Sep 2021 #12
Expect the pharma industry... WestMichRad Sep 2021 #22
We order my husband's inhaler from a Canada distributor Bayard Sep 2021 #23

Sherman A1

(38,958 posts)
2. Sounds great!
Thu Sep 9, 2021, 08:24 AM
Sep 2021

If they would include eliminating all advertising for prescription drugs I bet the costs would drop like a rock. Those endless and mind numbing ads. On TV cannot be cheap nor is the commercial time slot.

brer cat

(24,565 posts)
3. +1
Thu Sep 9, 2021, 08:34 AM
Sep 2021

Advertising prescription drugs should never have been allowed, but that ship has sailed. I wish President Biden would lead a push to stop them,

llmart

(15,539 posts)
8. I still think they could be banned like cigarettes were.
Thu Sep 9, 2021, 09:14 AM
Sep 2021

Never say never!

Actually, I'd rather they lower the price of prescription insurance also. I resent the fact that if you are on Medicare you are pretty much forced to purchase prescription drug insurance even if you don't take any drugs.

 

DanieRains

(4,619 posts)
4. The Ads Are Bribes
Thu Sep 9, 2021, 08:37 AM
Sep 2021

So the MSM doesn't talk about why we pay so much more for drugs than other countries pay for the same drugs.

Puppyjive

(502 posts)
17. Indeed
Thu Sep 9, 2021, 10:35 AM
Sep 2021

It is never a topic on the major news networks because prescription drug advertising is their cash cow. They might be good reporters, but they are also drug dealers.

mopinko

(70,103 posts)
7. personally, i disagree.
Thu Sep 9, 2021, 09:06 AM
Sep 2021

before they advertised that stuff, the only way to get that info was from a doc.
i have good docs, but they didnt suggest that i try lyrica. i saw it on tv.
made a big difference to me and to other people.

they are a way around the gate keepers, and that a GOOD thing.
i'm fine w limits on spending. but...

Sherman A1

(38,958 posts)
9. Then we must agree to disagree
Thu Sep 9, 2021, 09:48 AM
Sep 2021

I prefer to get my information on medication from a professional rather than a slickly made television advertisement.

mopinko

(70,103 posts)
11. well, you're a privileged character.
Thu Sep 9, 2021, 09:55 AM
Sep 2021

not everyone has a doc.
also- male. ask any woman w a chronic illness if her doc is her best source of info.
then duck.

Sherman A1

(38,958 posts)
13. I do have a primary doctor
Thu Sep 9, 2021, 10:06 AM
Sep 2021

and will follow his advice any day over that of a television advertisement. If that works for you, have at it. Seems silly to me.

BTW, my wife follows the advice of her doctor(s) and even with a chronic illness seems to trust them over what is on cable noise.

mopinko

(70,103 posts)
14. you are rly missing the point.
Thu Sep 9, 2021, 10:14 AM
Sep 2021

it's not about taking a drug that i saw on teevee. cant do that w/o a doc.
it's about knowing that it's out there so i can ask the doc about it.

you are lucky, and your wife is amazingly lucky.
i have multiple autoimmune diseases, but i was the one who had to figure that out 1st, and get a doc to confirm. that's the story for most women w ai.

docs arent gods, and keeping info stovepiped through them is just bullshit.
people die that way.

Sherman A1

(38,958 posts)
15. Not missing the point at all
Thu Sep 9, 2021, 10:21 AM
Sep 2021

however, you seem to be.

Self diagnose all you want. If it works for you......

mopinko

(70,103 posts)
16. whatevs.
Thu Sep 9, 2021, 10:34 AM
Sep 2021

my ideas arent anything w/o a doc. i have lots of docs. (part of the prob- they dont talk to each other. just hand patients off to specialists and forget about it.)

but i take an active part in my care, and everyone should.
you cant do that w/o info. admittedly, teevee ads arent the best way to get info out. but til there are better ways, it's important info.

you are deifying a system that doesnt deserve it.

Sherman A1

(38,958 posts)
18. Hardly deifying anything
Thu Sep 9, 2021, 10:40 AM
Sep 2021

Just respectful of the skills as opposed to the marketing and the costs to us all in that pull marketing program.

As I said several posts above we must agree to disagree. That is the last word from me to you on this or any other topic. Life is just too short.

Good Day.

SergeStorms

(19,201 posts)
19. Don't you have a primary physician?
Thu Sep 9, 2021, 10:42 AM
Sep 2021

That Doctor should coordinate your Healthcare matters. Are you in an urban or rural environment?

mopinko

(70,103 posts)
21. i'm in one of the best systems in the country.
Thu Sep 9, 2021, 10:58 AM
Sep 2021

have a primary who teaches at u of chicago. rheumie, too.

neither of them realized that my copd was not inflammatory, but secretions from my shoghens. i figured it out, and turns out it is easily controlled w a saline mist treatment, instead of the steroids i've been on for years. also have osteopenia, which, yeah, steroids not good.
and i have several conditions that are likely also related, but not of a concern to either of, because i am seeing a specialist.
it's called stovepiping, and it's the biggest factor in medical mystery cases.

i'm in a gap in my ins atm, but i'm planning a 'come to jesus' talk w my rheumie.
all the bs of the last 1 1/2 yrs blew it all up so hard, it was easy to see.


and oh, being a medical mystery gets you a psyche dx.
it aint all white coats and smiles, ppl.

SergeStorms

(19,201 posts)
24. OMG!
Thu Sep 9, 2021, 12:43 PM
Sep 2021

I'm so sorry! Either your PCP isn't spending enough time with you and really LISTENING (which is the case with so many of them) or there's just so much going on with you and he/she can't see the forest for the trees.

I'm glad you're on top of everything and figured it out.

Yes, you have a different set of parameters than most. Do whatever you think is best for you, and keep on chugging.

mopinko

(70,103 posts)
25. well, actually
Thu Sep 9, 2021, 01:14 PM
Sep 2021

late '19 i found the right dose of the right strains of mmj, and it changed a whoooole lot.
cleared up the brain fog that i had had in a bad way since getting west nile in '02, but also had most of my life since i got my head bashed in at 6.
lifelong klutz, but not rly any more.
also cleared up a lot of muscle spasms. changed my voice considerably.

actually looking for a new pcp, for sorta obvious reasons. got pretty sick last year and tried figuring this shit out. found out if you rly want to piss off a doctor, tell them what's wrong w you. esp if it should be staring them in the face.
been a patient for over a decade, and liked her. but...
she behaved incredibly unprofessionally, even tho i admit i was being difficult. but i felt like shit.

Backseat Driver

(4,392 posts)
26. I don't have a primary doc either yet...can't afford the 80/20 coverage
Thu Sep 9, 2021, 01:41 PM
Sep 2021

without a Medigap (supplemental) and budget currently too tight, even Medicare-approved (hahaha) private insurer Advantage plan choices seem to suck; daughters are freaking out as do I, but...I do thorough research on supplements, nutrition, exercise, and best science re Covid-19, and hope for the best for us healthwise as possible. I know exactly what you mean about going to the specialists and the shrinks as well; nothing wrong with men's heads though. I've lost enough throughout under the GQP's I've never voted for, including professional diagnosis and treatment folks, but am still grateful because there are many in worse shape, but it's lonely, scary, and far too late to fly solo.

Backseat Driver

(4,392 posts)
28. That's exactly what 1st ended our "happy days" in the early 80s.
Thu Sep 9, 2021, 02:21 PM
Sep 2021

John Berry leading the charge to the single plan per state payola.

GB_RN

(2,355 posts)
29. "Bug Your Doc" Ads...
Thu Sep 9, 2021, 03:34 PM
Sep 2021

Drive me insane.

We are one of only TWO countries in the world that allow direct-to-consumer pharmaceutical advertisements. The other is New Zealand, believe it or not.

lark

(23,099 posts)
6. Joe Mancin will be apoplectic.
Thu Sep 9, 2021, 08:52 AM
Sep 2021

His daughter is one of the major pharmacy grifters with insulin, bet that's why he's all of a sudden torpedoing the non traditional infrastructure bill.

SergeStorms

(19,201 posts)
20. She was.
Thu Sep 9, 2021, 10:48 AM
Sep 2021

She took the golden parachute offered to her when her employer was swallowed up by an international conglomerate. I think it added up to over $1 million. They also closed down the factory in West Virginia, putting hundreds of Joe's constituents out of work.

But the Manchins got theirs, so no big deal. Manchin is a hypocrite of the first/worst order.

Backseat Driver

(4,392 posts)
27. DM Type II drugs treat symptoms not the root problem(s)...
Thu Sep 9, 2021, 02:08 PM
Sep 2021

too many anecdotes and legit studies about the necessity to manage and avoid toxic SAD and environmental concerns that screws up one's immune system via the microbiome/leaky gut...obesity, liver, brain, nervous system, hormonal/adrenal - when the immune system doesn't work well, one's energy reserves to keep homeostasis of bodily functions deteriorate leaving one susceptible to chronic and catastrophic disease processes.

That said, it's hard not to dream up CT's evolving from the R&D laboratories, private and under control of DD or funded by rich political Wall Street types that support moranic leadership in government to maintain such wealth, from the lowly NRA types, pathogenic bioweapons, to those who deny climate change, and the physics/materials and cyber labs pretending that AI will give them advantage. The kernels of truth are that no protocols are failsafe when the intentions of the evil heart are involved...or plain human error might explain but is covered up in fear. Human morality, ethics, empathy, compassionate care, civility, kindness, and respect then go right out the window! We're truly on our own...

Bayard

(22,069 posts)
23. We order my husband's inhaler from a Canada distributor
Thu Sep 9, 2021, 12:03 PM
Sep 2021

Half the price of having it filled here.

Our prez doing more good works!

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