George W. Bush calls on Americans to confront domestic violent extremists on 9/11 anniversary
Source: CNN
Former President George W. Bush on Saturday called on Americans to confront domestic violent extremists, comparing them to violent extremists abroad and warning that they are "children of the same foul spirit."
In a speech marking the 20th anniversary of the 9/11 attacks, Bush said the US has seen "growing evidence that the dangers to our country can come not only across borders, but from violence that gathers within."
"There is little cultural overlap between violent extremists abroad and violent extremists at home," Bush said. "But in their disdain for pluralism, in their disregard for human life, in their determination to defile national symbols, they are children of the same foul spirit."
"And it is our continuing duty to confront them," he added.
Read more: https://www.cnn.com/2021/09/11/politics/george-w-bush-9-11-speech-domestic-violent-extremism/index.html
The January 6 insurrectionists were terrorists. George W. Bush just indicted them.
KG
(28,751 posts)hibbing
(10,095 posts)rickyhall
(4,889 posts)FoxNewsSucks
(10,425 posts)and Cheney's failures?
If not, then fuck them both. With a cactus.
underpants
(182,632 posts)Yes with a shoe horn too.
Grokenstein
(5,721 posts)"Everything went beautifully!"
hlthe2b
(102,141 posts)nonetheless. Just as I trust Liz as far as I could throw an angry 1/2 ton crocodile--but I am nonetheless relieved for her role on the Select Committee on 01/06.
One need not like your opponents, nor fully trust them to accept a benefit from them on the rare occasions they are "in the right."
Lasher
(27,541 posts)It was a good speech and aimed directly at TFG and his minions. Thought it was worth mentioning.
Dreampuff
(778 posts)Vice president Harris made me teary-eyed.
I may have not agreed with many things President Bush did, but the man has a soul. It's more than can be said of the very people he was chastising. Especially the orange man and his henchmen.
emmaverybo
(8,144 posts)president when he was never cut out to lead. I do believe he has no malice, no evil intent. He is still a persuasive figure politically. Here he is a voice of sanity that can be welcomed without sacrificing principles.
wryter2000
(46,023 posts)And he gleefully executed prisoners when he was governor of Texas. If he has a soul now, it's because he's grown one since leaving office. What does that say about him?
Given all that, though, I will embrace his saying this. It sounds quite eloquent, very different from him in the past. And it might bring a few sane Republican hangers-on to get with the program and vote for Democrats until their party cleans up its act.
Escurumbele
(3,379 posts)Maybe he gave a good speech today, but he was a puppet and like many republicans, a criminal.
Get a copy of Vincent Bugliosi's book "The Prosecution of George W. Bush for Murder", a pity no AG took on it, he presented a blueprint to prosecute all those murderers of GW's administration.
JohnSJ
(92,061 posts)that is very sad indeed.
In fact I believe it diminishes your position, because when an opponent says something you agree with, and instead of saying I agree on that point, you instead go off attacking that person on other things, you have now created a distraction from the point you agree on, and no doubt must make those who are part of the insurrection very pleased
DanieRains
(4,619 posts)Our nation is in a place where I will accept all the help we can get.
Even from Mr. Mushroom Cloud, and Shock and Awe, and (no) WMD's. And Mr. Waterboard.
Speaking for myself though.
I didn't forgive him....
JohnSJ
(92,061 posts)Escurumbele
(3,379 posts)the MAGATS...They are a lost cause, so I don't think bush's speech will do anything to change the mind of anyone.
emmaverybo
(8,144 posts)Fortinbras Armstrong
(4,473 posts)I have no love for W, but I think that in this case, he is perfectly correct. That should be acknowledged, rather than just a knee-jerk anti-Bush reaction.
groundloop
(11,514 posts)MustLoveBeagles
(11,583 posts)electric_blue68
(14,818 posts)PortTack
(32,715 posts)Stop tfg and his minions Im all for it
Hekate
(90,564 posts)MustLoveBeagles
(11,583 posts)tecelote
(5,122 posts)...adding that he was "appalled by the reckless behavior of some political leaders since the election."
The right has gone so far down the rabbit hole that Bush feels the need to separate himself from them.
Scrivener7
(50,919 posts)BLM and Antifa?
I'm not saying he did. I didn't see it and won't watch it, but I am curious if this is the case. None of the articles I have read summarizing his remarks clarified this point.
Lasher
(27,541 posts)So he's been consistent with his criticism.
Thomas Hurt
(13,903 posts)SergeStorms
(19,187 posts)Today's republicans have abandoned the Republicans of Bush's ilk.
However, Bush's ilk paved the way for the Trump republicans. Dr. Frankenstein lost control of his monster, and now condemns it.
Beachnutt
(7,290 posts)your hand while knifeing you in the back...
Today they flaunt stabbing you and brag about it.
Evolve Dammit
(16,702 posts)bucolic_frolic
(43,064 posts)and I'm sure no one listens to him anyway
sarchasm
(1,012 posts)I agree with what a lot of what he said, but it's too little, too late. Especially after what he, Cheney, Wolfowitz, Rumsfeld, and the rest of his administration, along with his jackboots in Congress did.
brush
(53,743 posts)Downtown Hound
(12,618 posts)What an interesting choice of words. These are your voters, George. They are the result of years of Fox News brainwashing, culture wars, religious fundamentalism, failed Republican economic policies, conservative gun culture, and racist demonizing and xenophobia.
So, what does that make you, foul spirit?
SergeStorms
(19,187 posts)Without Richard Nixon, then Ronald Reagan, then George H. W. Bush, then George W. Bush, there is no Donald Fucking Trump.
Each preceding republican paved the way for the lawlessness and callousness of each following republican.
cstanleytech
(26,248 posts)SergeStorms
(19,187 posts)So far, anyway. I can't imagine anyone being worse, but then again there doesn't seem to be a bottom to the pit republicans keep crawling out of.
cstanleytech
(26,248 posts)DBoon
(22,340 posts)Bengus81
(6,928 posts)Fuck you BUSH,I haven't FORGOT...
what you did over your eight year reign.
Oliver Bolliver Butt
(77 posts)Piratedog
(256 posts)I didnt lije Budh very much but hind sight is always 20/20. Perhaps he regrets many of his past decisions. Maybe not. I dont know the man but what he said was correct andvhe was where he should have been today.
Bengus81
(6,928 posts)That FUCKER killed thousands of Americans in Iraq and hundreds of thousands of Iraqi's were injured or killed in a put up war for Halliburton and other no-bid War contractors and to try and steal billions in Oil.
Him and his asshat VP Darth Cheney should have been on trial in the Hague for War crimes.
totodeinhere
(13,057 posts)disndat
(1,887 posts)So glad a great DUer is calling 9/11 for what it was. 99% of the people are in deep denial or total
ignorance.
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Downtown Hound
(12,618 posts)If he really regrets his past actions, then he can man up and take responsibility for them. He caused hundreds of thousands of needless deaths, but hey, he spoke a few words of truth and sanity, and now he's all good in your eyes, huh?
Screw that. He's a war criminal through and through and he's never once apologized or owned any of it and I highly doubt he ever will. The only person who's ridiculous here is you. All it takes is a few sweet words and you instantly forget about the mountain of atrocities he committed. Pathetic.
sprinkleeninow
(20,217 posts)Downtown Hound
(12,618 posts)But I'm not a huge fan of his either.
totodeinhere
(13,057 posts)But to this day he maintains that his decision to go into Iraq was the right thing to do. So does Cheney.
NYC Liberal
(20,135 posts)when the war drums were being beaten. The protests were some of the largest in human history.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Protests_against_the_Iraq_War
That's not to mention all the other terrible actions that many of us knew were terrible while they were being made. Stealing the 2000 election. Abu Ghraib. The response to Hurricane Katrina. Extraordinary rendition. Torture. Commuting Scooter Libby's sentence. etc.
Maybe he does regret some of it but to say that the criticism is hindsight is simply not true.
the man LIED HIS WAY INTO WAR......it doesn't get much more egregious than that - that warmongering piece fucking SHIT can go FUCK HIMSELF
Champp
(2,114 posts)Lock the traitors up.
cstanleytech
(26,248 posts)Sapient Donkey
(1,568 posts)As in the Bush era neocon types. It's interesting to listen to some of them talk since this whole Trump takeover took place. They often have some progressive-lite type views when it comes to domestic politics. Take the abortion thing in Texas as an example. Many of them are actually promoting ideas of more assistance for pregnant women, programs for children, and healthcare, etc.. Grant you it's a with an "anti-abortion" tinge still, but that's significantly better than the "force them to have the baby and then fuck 'em when it's born" approach. There are similar themes with healthcare, climate change, policing/prison reform, and racial issues too. There is at least some actual view as to why those are important issues, and that makes room for possible real positive change.
But at the same time I wonder if they always felt that way, but they refused to acknowledge it out of cynical political motivations, or did they have some sort of epiphany over the past six years? The cynical side of me suspects it's neither and they just saying the words that they know will continue to keep them relevant while Trump is running the party. I do recall reading something that a lot of these people at one time considered themselves to be politically liberal, but saw the right as their way to power and influence.
ashredux
(2,599 posts)nycbos
(6,034 posts)Marcuse
(7,446 posts)NoMoreRepugs
(9,374 posts)RePutinican Party.
llmart
(15,534 posts)I always felt that he really didn't want the job but was torn between trying to win his Daddy's approval (thus the go-ahead to start a war in Iraq) and then pretty much allowing the lackeys behind him, like Cheney, et. al. to make the hard decisions. He'd go along with them because he really had no idea how to lead. He was just a figurehead.
A man like that has no real core principles of his own. However, if he can sway some people in his party or some voters to open their eyes about today's GOP then I'll take it.
johnp3907
(3,730 posts)elleng
(130,763 posts)in the past and who have changed their minds, we are in much worse situation than we were in, AND IT'S HARMFUL and UNNECESSARY.
SHAPE UP, nay-sayers.
pazzyanne
(6,544 posts)and thank you for saying it so clearly. I remember when people on DU were able to dicuss issues in a coherent manner without all the unnecessary "mud slinging". With all we are facing today, we need rational solutions, not negative retoric imho.
Downtown Hound
(12,618 posts)about domestic terrorists.
We're just not impressed because he had a major hand in creating them, and not only does he not acknowledge that fact, he likes to still pretend that he didn't kill more innocent people than all terrorists combined. But hey, guess that's right-mindedness to you, 'eh?
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totodeinhere
(13,057 posts)have known for a long time. But I'm not buying it.
LudwigPastorius
(9,110 posts)4,500 American troops in his head, he just paints another shitty, cute doggy picture and it all goes away.
That butcher should crawl back under his luxurious rock, never to be seen again in public life.
ZZenith
(4,115 posts)In perpetuity.
keithbvadu2
(36,673 posts)Dubya thanks God every day for Trump so that Dubya is not the worst President in America's history anymore.
sprinkleeninow
(20,217 posts)Mr.Bill
(24,253 posts)to have taken this long to figure this out.
Blues Heron
(5,926 posts)I wonder who wrote this speech
IronLionZion
(45,380 posts)BumRushDaShow
(128,527 posts)The same guy HE appointed to the Texas State Supreme Court? Has he ever called Abbott out, someone who is the very definition of a domestic terrorist?
I did watch (with the sound muted) his speech at Shanksville.
Historic NY
(37,449 posts)rurallib
(62,387 posts)Just revenge in his inept way, nothing more I think.
traitorsgalore
(1,395 posts)There's a lot more than a "little cultural overlap" there. They're the same F-ing thing: terrorists.
Dawson Leery
(19,348 posts)Last edited Sat Sep 11, 2021, 11:14 PM - Edit history (1)
Mike Nelson
(9,944 posts)... mixed feelings. Interesting how "the media" suddenly discovered Afghanistan, but not the Administration responsible for its failures. Still, that was a great speech! I hope we learn the speechwriter (or writers) name!
Lasher
(27,541 posts)I see you are able to deal with it.
Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin
(107,763 posts)But even a broken clock is right twice a day.
cstanleytech
(26,248 posts)when he finally dies I would be tempted to visit his grave if I had the financial means to do so just to piss on it and the same goes for Trump.
Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin
(107,763 posts)Tell me something I don't know.
But Trump and his ilk the danger this country faces today.
regnaD kciN
(26,044 posts)WestIndianArchie
(386 posts)ever agree with "W" But here it is. He is not the complete moron I believed him to be. These people need to be rounded up and imprisoned. Where is the Military Commissions Act?
bucolic_frolic
(43,064 posts)by big business government contracting and oil leases from slipping away into full throttled fascism/privatization of assets and businesses as the state melts into weakness and autocracy.
myohmy2
(3,142 posts)...would have thought those words would come from the chimp...
...who would have thought he would proudly stand among the handful of sane honorable patriotic Republicans left...
...who would have thought...
...great speech, President Bush...
https://www.nbcnews.com/video/full-speech-pres-bush-delivers-remarks-at-shanksville-9-11-ceremony-on-20th-anniversary-120653381526
malthaussen
(17,175 posts)Deep State Witch
(10,413 posts)He and his cronies lit this fire and stoked it by invading a country that did nothing to us. Now we have radicalized military people attacking our own Capitol.
truthisfreedom
(23,140 posts)jcmaine72
(1,773 posts)I will give him this much credit: He doesn't sound any dumber than he did when he was President.
Then again, when someone possesses all the intellectual prowess and dynamism of a lobotomized macaque, how much dumber can they possibly get with the passage of time?