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riversedge

(70,197 posts)
Mon Sep 13, 2021, 08:33 AM Sep 2021

House Democrats Outline Tax Increases for Wealthy Businesses and Individuals

Source: nytimes




The draft proposal includes raising the corporate tax rate to 26.5 percent for the richest businesses to help pay for President Biden’s sweeping expansion of the social safety net.


Published Sept. 12, 2021Updated Sept. 13, 2021, 12:13 a.m. ET

WASHINGTON — Senior House Democrats are coalescing around a draft proposal that could raise as much as $2.9 trillion to pay for most of President Biden’s sweeping expansion of the social safety net by increasing taxes on the wealthiest corporations and individuals.

The preliminary proposal, which circulated on and off Capitol Hill on Sunday, would raise the corporate tax rate to 26.5 percent for the richest businesses and impose an additional surtax on individuals who make more than $5 million.

The plan could be a critical step for advancing the $3.5 trillion package, which is expected to include federally funded paid family leave, address climate change and expand public education. While it is unclear whether the entire House tax-writing committee supports the proposal, it suggests plans to undo key components of the 2017 Republican tax law, although some provisions fall short of what Mr. Biden proposed earlier this year.

But the revenue provisions outlined in a document obtained by The New York Times and reported earlier by The Washington Post fall short of fully financing the entire package.

Democrats are cobbling together, despite promises by Mr. Biden and Democratic leaders that it would be fully paid for in order to assuage concerns from moderates in their caucus.


People briefed on the details cautioned that the plan was still in flux. The committee is scheduled to convene this week to continue work on the legislation and the Senate returns on Monday, as Democrats aim to reconcile their policy differences by the end of the month.

Read more: https://www.nytimes.com/2021/09/12/us/politics/house-democrats-taxes.html?smtyp=cur&smid=tw-nytimes



It it a start. But the Senate is another creature



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Representative Richard E. Neal of Massachusetts, the top Democrat on the Ways and Means Committee, left, had been quiet about his own preferences for the legislation.Credit...Tom Brenner for The New York Times
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House Democrats Outline Tax Increases for Wealthy Businesses and Individuals (Original Post) riversedge Sep 2021 OP
Wow, the GQP isn't going to like this, gab13by13 Sep 2021 #1
Good. This is how you fight. Raven123 Sep 2021 #2
Wealthy Businesses and Individuals should be happy... KS Toronado Sep 2021 #3
Yes. Call it the Eisenhower 2021 Plan and bring back a 90 plus percent on the uber rich. Evolve Dammit Sep 2021 #4
Wouldn't the business just pass the costs to the customers? chowder66 Sep 2021 #5
Do you have an alternative suggestion? Raven123 Sep 2021 #6
No, I don't. That's why I put question marks at the end. chowder66 Sep 2021 #7
I agree about the IRS. Thanks. chowder66 Sep 2021 #10
Businesses need to keep their prices competitive in the marketplace KS Toronado Sep 2021 #8
Thanks. Good points. nt chowder66 Sep 2021 #9
And increases on capital gains and incomes above $5 million IronLionZion Sep 2021 #11
My guess wryter2000 Sep 2021 #13
A 14 cent increase in the price of a pizza puts me out on the street IronLionZion Sep 2021 #16
It thought it was a quarter wryter2000 Sep 2021 #17
How much do you wanna bet that Joe Manchin won't like it? zanana1 Sep 2021 #12
You were one minute ahead of me wryter2000 Sep 2021 #14
5 million is now the threshold for wealthy? Steelrolled Sep 2021 #15
Won't anyone think of their children? wryter2000 Sep 2021 #18
I wish I were rich enough to be impacted by Biden tax plans IronLionZion Sep 2021 #19

gab13by13

(21,319 posts)
1. Wow, the GQP isn't going to like this,
Mon Sep 13, 2021, 08:36 AM
Sep 2021

a reverse crony capitalism. The next thing you know corporations won't be allowed to buy politicians, anyone thinking of who I am thinking of?

KS Toronado

(17,211 posts)
3. Wealthy Businesses and Individuals should be happy...
Mon Sep 13, 2021, 09:06 AM
Sep 2021

We're not reverting to Ike's tax rates, back when America was great.

Dwight D Eisenhower, Corporate Tax Rate: 90%

Why? Because high corporate tax rates create incentive for big business to spend earnings and expand (ie: new
locations, new hires, new equipment, and product R&D) which are deducted from taxable earnings. Thus driving
reported wealth into a lower tax bracket. Better to spend a majority of earnings on expansion than to horde it
and pay Uncle Sam 90% of it. It's not communism, it's responsible economics.

chowder66

(9,067 posts)
5. Wouldn't the business just pass the costs to the customers?
Mon Sep 13, 2021, 09:44 AM
Sep 2021

Wouldn't the rich just hide their earnings? What if they don't pay? Many don't anyway.

KS Toronado

(17,211 posts)
8. Businesses need to keep their prices competitive in the marketplace
Mon Sep 13, 2021, 10:17 AM
Sep 2021

in order to stay in business, it's just less money going into the shareholder's pockets. Plus all their competitors
will be in the same boat with higher taxes.

IronLionZion

(45,433 posts)
11. And increases on capital gains and incomes above $5 million
Mon Sep 13, 2021, 11:18 AM
Sep 2021

these are modest increases but the GOP are still squealing as if it's some socialist plot to kill jobs.

WaPo link for those with access https://www.washingtonpost.com/us-policy/2021/09/12/manchin-sanders-reconciliation/

wryter2000

(46,039 posts)
13. My guess
Mon Sep 13, 2021, 11:37 AM
Sep 2021

People making $5 million + a few thousand will pay very little more. The people who make $1 billion will pay a lot more.

3...2...1... cue Manchin. "No way I can support this huge tax increase."

IronLionZion

(45,433 posts)
16. A 14 cent increase in the price of a pizza puts me out on the street
Mon Sep 13, 2021, 12:32 PM
Sep 2021


which is the cost for Papa Johns to provide health insurance for their workers.

 

Steelrolled

(2,022 posts)
15. 5 million is now the threshold for wealthy?
Mon Sep 13, 2021, 11:49 AM
Sep 2021

Think of all the people struggling, trying to get by on 2 or 3 million.

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