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TomCADem

(17,380 posts)
Thu Sep 16, 2021, 01:52 PM Sep 2021

California recall price tag could hit $300 million. Some say it was a waste of money

Source: LA Times

The recall election is over, but the vote counting continues — as does debate over whether it was all worth it.

Gov. Gavin Newsom survived the recall attempt by a big margin, and that has led some to question whether the system works and if changes are needed.

On Wednesday, two state legislators said that the failed effort to remove Newsom was too costly and needlessly confusing. They called for further review.

Times columnist Steve Lopez was more blunt, asking: "Was this the most frivolous waste of time in California election history?"

Read more: https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/california-recall-price-tag-could-hit-dollar300-million-some-say-it-was-a-waste-of-money/ar-AAOvYQP?li=BBnb7Kz

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California recall price tag could hit $300 million. Some say it was a waste of money (Original Post) TomCADem Sep 2021 OP
some say? i want to know who doesnt. they need a rubber room. mopinko Sep 2021 #1
My immediate first reaction as well Bev54 Sep 2021 #4
Me! This affirmation of Gov. Newsome wiped out a huge RW theme Hortensis Sep 2021 #9
ok, that's a point. mopinko Sep 2021 #11
:) I'm thinking a rubber room could become a downright comforting Hortensis Sep 2021 #12
oh i hear ya. mopinko Sep 2021 #13
don't hide. Then Republicans take over our healthcare system and your rubber room will privatized ZonkerHarris Sep 2021 #16
Genuine danger. But I'll vote if my husband has to guide my Hortensis Sep 2021 #18
Yeah, that's a galling headline. lagomorph777 Sep 2021 #23
Yes yes it was. LakeArenal Sep 2021 #2
Some say? Can I throw my shoe at the person who wrote that headline? ffr Sep 2021 #3
Yes...don't you know? The MSM always like an underdog. so... LiberalLovinLug Sep 2021 #22
They implemented the good government vision of 1911 bucolic_frolic Sep 2021 #5
They should change the law saying those who initiated the recall have to pay the cost kimbutgar Sep 2021 #6
I suggest a new rule for recalls. Javaman Sep 2021 #7
Make the people who want a reall election pay the cost up front. LastLiberal in PalmSprings Sep 2021 #8
We could have made another Avengers movie. That's how we spend money here in SoCal. ZonkerHarris Sep 2021 #17
R's fiscally irresponsible Marthe48 Sep 2021 #10
Some say? SOME SAY?? louis-t Sep 2021 #14
Newsom should send the RNC a nice Turbineguy Sep 2021 #15
Some - LOL DarthDem Sep 2021 #19
Some say... orwell Sep 2021 #20
Now make the GOP pay the bill. sakabatou Sep 2021 #21

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
9. Me! This affirmation of Gov. Newsome wiped out a huge RW theme
Thu Sep 16, 2021, 02:22 PM
Sep 2021

that CA'd lost faith in Democrats and their failures and was turning to the Republicans. California's hugely influential. Even a narrow loss to us would have worked for them.

We're battling a RW authoritarian takeover, an electoral coup they intend to win. If we hadn't gotten control of the house in 2018, it likely would have all been over already.

So with the 2022 midterms coming up, it's possible that $300M could possibly be among the best money we've ever spent. "We" as in Democrats only, of course; not Republicans.

But for sure, we got a lot of invaluable bang for it.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
12. :) I'm thinking a rubber room could become a downright comforting
Thu Sep 16, 2021, 02:57 PM
Sep 2021

place to shelter before this is finished playing out. Padded, no windows, beautifully silent. No politics. Without it, next fall may be when I finally break down and ask our doctor for some kind of tranquilizer. But itm this really does help.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
18. Genuine danger. But I'll vote if my husband has to guide my
Thu Sep 16, 2021, 05:22 PM
Sep 2021

doped-up signature on the mail-in ballot.


ffr

(22,665 posts)
3. Some say? Can I throw my shoe at the person who wrote that headline?
Thu Sep 16, 2021, 01:54 PM
Sep 2021


$300 million down the drain could have done a lot of other things to better the state.

LiberalLovinLug

(14,164 posts)
22. Yes...don't you know? The MSM always like an underdog. so...
Fri Sep 17, 2021, 03:55 PM
Sep 2021

A few here and there thought it was a waste, but most thought it was perfectly affordable and worth the money.

Oh, and Newsom barely survived it.

And it was a great idea because it forced Newsom to be more accountable to what the people want. Like solving homelessness....because we all know that Republicans are soooooooo concerned about the needs of the homeless.

bucolic_frolic

(43,008 posts)
5. They implemented the good government vision of 1911
Thu Sep 16, 2021, 01:59 PM
Sep 2021

Time for some changes. It sure wasn't worth it to try to shorten his term by 1 year. I don't know what's with the dozens of replacement candidates. Seems to me 50% of the recall petition should have been from independents and Democrats, that would have indicated early on there was a real issue, or there wasn't.

Instigators should pay for the recall if it was frivolous, say less than 45% of the total vote. An actual recall would have been a lot closer. There was no issue here. Protecting public health with shutdowns and mask mandates are prudent functions of government.

kimbutgar

(21,030 posts)
6. They should change the law saying those who initiated the recall have to pay the cost
Thu Sep 16, 2021, 02:13 PM
Sep 2021

Why should we taxpayers be on the line for a partisan bs recall?

That 300 million could have been used for education, housing, fire management and infrastructure. Just because some American Taliban operatives wanted to derail Newsom’s future political career because they see him as a threat in the future ambitions.

Javaman

(62,493 posts)
7. I suggest a new rule for recalls.
Thu Sep 16, 2021, 02:16 PM
Sep 2021

the party calling for the recall, must pay for the recall if they lose. if they win, then the state pays.

these ridiculous recalls, especially California's recall law, makes it way to easy for recalls to be done.

I think deep down the right wing knew they were going to lose but still chose to go ahead and try for the sake of tying up things in the California government.

if they had to pay for the recall if they lost, then they would have to reassess, prior to filing for a recall, if they really had a honest chance. thus preventing frivolous recalls.

8. Make the people who want a reall election pay the cost up front.
Thu Sep 16, 2021, 02:20 PM
Sep 2021

Right now, the only ones who end up paying for their folly are the taxpayers. How much good could have been done with $300 million?

Marthe48

(16,886 posts)
10. R's fiscally irresponsible
Thu Sep 16, 2021, 02:25 PM
Sep 2021

Like all of their other hypocritical bs to get in office, so they can grift the hell out of the taxpayers. They never met a waste of money they didn't embrace.

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