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bluevoter4life

(787 posts)
Thu Sep 16, 2021, 09:26 PM Sep 2021

Hospital staff must swear off Tylenol, Tums to get religious vaccine exemption

Source: ARS Technica

A hospital system in Arkansas is making it a bit more difficult for staff to receive a religious exemption from its COVID-19 vaccine mandate. The hospital is now requiring staff to also swear off extremely common medicines, such as Tylenol, Tums, and even Preparation H, to get the exemption.

The move was prompted when Conway Regional Health System noted an unusual uptick in vaccine exemption requests that cited the use of fetal cell lines in the development and testing of the vaccines.

Read more: https://arstechnica.com/science/2021/09/hospital-staff-must-swear-off-tylenol-tums-to-get-religious-vaccine-exemption/



Hard to search on my phone. Mods please delete or lock if a dupe.

Good to see hospitals take a stand. More of this please.
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Hospital staff must swear off Tylenol, Tums to get religious vaccine exemption (Original Post) bluevoter4life Sep 2021 OP
Sorry Arkansas.....you elected stupid people. OAITW r.2.0 Sep 2021 #1
Too bad religious exemption snowflakes have ZERO problem lying out their asses. 50 Shades Of Blue Sep 2021 #2
You said it! Delphinus Sep 2021 #30
If you don't believe in medicine and rely on your faith to keep you healthy... Thomas Hurt Sep 2021 #3
That's not it jmowreader Sep 2021 #5
These phony religious exemptions Mr. Evil Sep 2021 #4
Hmmm Well they were okay with Jesus being crucified. LiberalFighter Sep 2021 #10
Jesus was out of the womb. nt Tommymac Sep 2021 #17
Jesus also wasn't them. NYC Liberal Sep 2021 #19
Jesus was a liberal Klondike Kat Sep 2021 #21
Long haired Jewish peacenik from the middle east IronLionZion Sep 2021 #22
A Religious Exemption Is At Odds DallasNE Sep 2021 #6
i googled to find out what you were referring to (it's jacobson btw) orleans Sep 2021 #7
To be clear for others, the June 3, 2020 date is when this article was published dflprincess Sep 2021 #12
yes. thank you nt orleans Sep 2021 #20
Bible says Alien Life Form Sep 2021 #8
It's a hard way to find out who is not a true believer. keithbvadu2 Sep 2021 #11
I've been spreading this around everywhere I can PatSeg Sep 2021 #9
Add Viagra to the list intrepidity Sep 2021 #23
Ha, ha, ha!!! PatSeg Sep 2021 #25
I don't quite understand why a person with an objection to modern medicine dflprincess Sep 2021 #13
Just a job. I know several RN's that have never worn a mask outside of the hospital LiberalArkie Sep 2021 #26
Maybe a religious exemption from quarantine for someone with a contagious disease attending their se keithbvadu2 Sep 2021 #14
Why not make them swear off all alcohol and weed as well? KY_EnviroGuy Sep 2021 #15
Good. PoindexterOglethorpe Sep 2021 #16
Completely unenforeceable. Jon King Sep 2021 #18
This will make them squirm because if they can't take OTC medicines or other medicines in2herbs Sep 2021 #24
How is this enforceable? They certainly aren't going to go Karma13612 Sep 2021 #27
they are making the claim that they should receive an exemption based on their beliefs. maxsolomon Sep 2021 #29
K&R ck4829 Sep 2021 #28
Make them swear off birth control along with Tums and Tylenol Bengus81 Sep 2021 #31
A list... keithbvadu2 Oct 2021 #32

Thomas Hurt

(13,903 posts)
3. If you don't believe in medicine and rely on your faith to keep you healthy...
Thu Sep 16, 2021, 09:32 PM
Sep 2021

and heal or cure you...wtf are you working in a hospital? That is a religious exemption. That you don't like the covid vaccine cuz it is filthy socialism is not.

jmowreader

(50,533 posts)
5. That's not it
Thu Sep 16, 2021, 09:48 PM
Sep 2021

The researchers used a cell line that derives from an abortion performed in Holland in the 1970s to test the vaccines.

Mr. Evil

(2,828 posts)
4. These phony religious exemptions
Thu Sep 16, 2021, 09:39 PM
Sep 2021

would only last until they got sick enough to be admitted as a Covid patient. Anytime after that if they thought that slaughtering a live baby and drenching themselves in its blood would save their life they'd be all for it. I loathe these people.

I apologize for being a bit graphic but, I've had my fill of their hypocrisy and their phony religious bullshit. They are putting unwitting people at great and grave risk, especially children too young to be vaccinated.

IronLionZion

(45,380 posts)
22. Long haired Jewish peacenik from the middle east
Fri Sep 17, 2021, 10:32 AM
Sep 2021

They would definitely deport him for his socialist radical speeches

orleans

(34,042 posts)
7. i googled to find out what you were referring to (it's jacobson btw)
Thu Sep 16, 2021, 10:11 PM
Sep 2021

"Individual right must sometimes give way to 'common good', Harlan wrote. Jacobson argued that the smallpox vaccination law not only infringed on his religious liberty but also was arbitrary and capricious. The Court disagreed, writing that Jacobson's individual right must give way to the “common good.” Jun 3, 2020
https://www.mtsu.edu/first-amendment/article/1824/jacobson-v-massachusetts

dflprincess

(28,072 posts)
12. To be clear for others, the June 3, 2020 date is when this article was published
Thu Sep 16, 2021, 10:41 PM
Sep 2021

Jacobson is a 1905 case.

keithbvadu2

(36,678 posts)
11. It's a hard way to find out who is not a true believer.
Thu Sep 16, 2021, 10:31 PM
Sep 2021

It's a hard way to find out who is not a true believer.

PatSeg

(47,289 posts)
9. I've been spreading this around everywhere I can
Thu Sep 16, 2021, 10:19 PM
Sep 2021

Most common medications appear to have been tested and/or developed using the HEK-293 fetal cell line. Advil, Aleve, Sudafed, Benadryl, Claritin, Robitussin, Mucinex, Maalox, Ex-Lax, Pepto-Bismol, Lipitor, Albuterol, just to mention a few. Basically anyone looking to refuse the vaccine on religious grounds, probably needs to clean out their entire medicine cabinet.

Oops!

dflprincess

(28,072 posts)
13. I don't quite understand why a person with an objection to modern medicine
Thu Sep 16, 2021, 10:43 PM
Sep 2021

would be working in a hospital. You would think accepting even a support staff position would be aiding & abetting sin.


keithbvadu2

(36,678 posts)
14. Maybe a religious exemption from quarantine for someone with a contagious disease attending their se
Thu Sep 16, 2021, 10:52 PM
Sep 2021

Maybe a religious exemption from quarantine for someone with a contagious disease attending their services?

You can't deny my right to worship!

???

Some kids still get mumps, measles, chicken pox.

Bring 'em to church.

KY_EnviroGuy

(14,488 posts)
15. Why not make them swear off all alcohol and weed as well?
Thu Sep 16, 2021, 11:00 PM
Sep 2021

That was taboo in the Southern Baptist church I was raised in. Same with shopping on Sundays and pre-marital sex.

Weekly prayer sessions in sackcloth and ashes would be further proof of their faith to seal the deal.


KY...........

PoindexterOglethorpe

(25,817 posts)
16. Good.
Thu Sep 16, 2021, 11:41 PM
Sep 2021

Be consistent, if you're claiming religious exemption.

In the real world, I think the only religion opposed to medical stuff is Christian Science. And everyone here really should read God's Perfect Child by Caroline Fraser.

Fraser spent her childhood practicing the teachings of Christian Science. She was told that she was "God's Perfect Child" and that any errors she made, including being carsick every Sunday as she and her family traveled to her grandparents' house, were due to her "Mortal Mind." Although she left the church before she entered college, Fraser acknowledges that Christian Science is "profoundly complex" and "worth understanding in its own right."


It's an absolutely amazing account of Christian Science.

Oh, and her more recent book, Prairie Fires, the American Dreams of Laura Ingalls Wilder is perhaps the very best book I have ever read in a long life of vociferous reading.

Jon King

(1,910 posts)
18. Completely unenforeceable.
Thu Sep 16, 2021, 11:55 PM
Sep 2021

This seems pretty worthless. Simpler to just require them to pay for frequent testing. Sooner or later the financial hit would make them more likely to get the vaccine.

in2herbs

(2,944 posts)
24. This will make them squirm because if they can't take OTC medicines or other medicines
Fri Sep 17, 2021, 12:17 PM
Sep 2021

that were developed using stem cells, etc., they'll have to rely on herbal and other alternative medicines. Even as progressive and democratic as DU is supposed to be, having to use herbal or other alternative meds is a bridge too far.

If more companies did this is there a religiously held beliefs challenge in the future that will seek to make the USSC redefine it's definition it gave to right-wingers, such as Hobby Lobby, the right to claim their religiously held beliefs, without evidence of anything but their claim?

Karma13612

(4,545 posts)
27. How is this enforceable? They certainly aren't going to go
Fri Sep 17, 2021, 03:21 PM
Sep 2021

To the expense of drug testing them?

I can see them not allowing any hospital-based pharmacy dispensing and selling them these drugs, or they might go so far as telling any hospital-based physicians that they cannot prescribe these meds to these patients…but short of these extreme measures, I just don’t see this doing anything.

Force a lie detector once a week? I mean, this is a joke.



maxsolomon

(33,252 posts)
29. they are making the claim that they should receive an exemption based on their beliefs.
Mon Sep 20, 2021, 06:40 PM
Sep 2021

they will have to attest to not using any medicines tested using that stem cell line - since that's their objection to the CV19 vaccines.

no one's going to test them for tums, but an attestation is a signed document. you're basically swearing you're telling the truth.

that is supposed to mean something, even in 2021.

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