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Zorro

(15,737 posts)
Fri Sep 17, 2021, 03:51 PM Sep 2021

An F.D.A. panel recommended against approving a Pfizer-BioNTech booster for people 16 and older.

Source: New York Times

WASHINGTON — A scientific advisory committee to the Food and Drug Administration on Friday overwhelmingly recommended against approving a booster shot of the Pfizer-BioNTech coronavirus vaccine for people 16 and older.

The committee voted 16 to 3 after holding an intense daylong public discussion on whether booster shots are necessary and if so, for whom. The Biden administration has been hoping the F.D.A. would approve a third shot of the Pfizer vaccine in time to begin rolling out boosters for Pfizer recipients next week.

The vote came after a sharp debate in which many of the panel’s independent experts, including infectious disease doctors and statisticians, challenged whether the data justified a broad rollout of extra shots when the vaccines appear to still offer robust protection against severe Covid-19 disease and hospitalization, at least in the United States.

“It’s unclear that everyone needs to be boosted, other than a subset of the population that clearly would be at high risk for serious disease,” said Dr. Michael G. Kurilla, a committee member and official at the National Institutes of Health.

Read more: https://www.nytimes.com/2021/09/17/us/politics/fda-booster-shots-meeting-covid.html

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An F.D.A. panel recommended against approving a Pfizer-BioNTech booster for people 16 and older. (Original Post) Zorro Sep 2021 OP
This sucks, and couldn't come at a worse time. lagomorph777 Sep 2021 #1
Clarified vote total equals 16 YES and 2 NOs BumRushDaShow Sep 2021 #2
Message auto-removed Name removed Sep 2021 #3
Nah we're just gonna wait for the breakthroughs to go through the roof durablend Sep 2021 #4
Yep, that seems to be the plan. LisaL Sep 2021 #5
The FDA has not exactly been a shining light during this pandemic. BlueIdaho Sep 2021 #6
Probably that boosters don't provide enough of a boost to justify a third dose AZSkiffyGeek Sep 2021 #8
That's not what Israel's data indicate. LisaL Sep 2021 #10
The question isn't if it boosts the efficacy AZSkiffyGeek Sep 2021 #11
It's a really complicated question. BlueIdaho Sep 2021 #12
Loyalty to TFG !?!?!?!? musclecar6 Sep 2021 #14
Just try telling them that. BlueIdaho Sep 2021 #15
Why would you have to delay a kids shot in order to give an adult another one? padfun Sep 2021 #16
What does the Israel data indicate? Clagfarble Sep 2021 #13
Good question. I'm not sure either, especially when it seemed for a while they had control ... marble falls Sep 2021 #17
My feelings exactly. LisaL Sep 2021 #9
Here's a free link to a similar story... Rollo Sep 2021 #7

BumRushDaShow

(128,833 posts)
2. Clarified vote total equals 16 YES and 2 NOs
Fri Sep 17, 2021, 03:54 PM
Sep 2021

there was an "extra" NO vote in the little applet vote they use.

Response to Zorro (Original post)

durablend

(7,460 posts)
4. Nah we're just gonna wait for the breakthroughs to go through the roof
Fri Sep 17, 2021, 03:57 PM
Sep 2021

Then "Oh shit, maybe we should've done something"

BlueIdaho

(13,582 posts)
6. The FDA has not exactly been a shining light during this pandemic.
Fri Sep 17, 2021, 04:15 PM
Sep 2021

The same can also probably be said about the CDC too. If love to know what reasoning they are using during a time when the pandemic is blowing up virtually everywhere and the vaccine creators are recommending boosters of their drugs.

AZSkiffyGeek

(11,005 posts)
8. Probably that boosters don't provide enough of a boost to justify a third dose
Fri Sep 17, 2021, 04:19 PM
Sep 2021

When the vast majority of the world hasn't had a single jab.

AZSkiffyGeek

(11,005 posts)
11. The question isn't if it boosts the efficacy
Fri Sep 17, 2021, 04:26 PM
Sep 2021

It's whether the boost is enough to justify it when the vaccinated are still not at particularly high risk of hospitalization/death, and when there are so many unvaccinated spreading worldwide that don't have access to their first shot.
Should we delay giving kids their jabs because adults want a third dose?

BlueIdaho

(13,582 posts)
12. It's a really complicated question.
Fri Sep 17, 2021, 04:42 PM
Sep 2021

There are so many doses of vaccine in the US being thrown away because they have expired, I seriously doubt third jabs are going to create a threat of scarcity. As far as global vaccinations - most poor countries lack the storage and distribution facilities for the US vaccines. That’s why Astra Zeneca is the vaccine of choice outside of the US.

I suspect this won’t be a simple yes or no answer. If I had to guess, I would guess third jabs will go to the over 60 crowd first for obvious reasons.

Finally, I live in Idaho and we are swimming in vaccines yet our vaccination numbers have remained flat for months because of the huge number of redneck Trumpers who think staying unvaccinated proves their loyalty to TFG.

So like I said, it’s complicated.

musclecar6

(1,685 posts)
14. Loyalty to TFG !?!?!?!?
Fri Sep 17, 2021, 08:51 PM
Sep 2021

That one way national disgrace wouldn’t piss on those rednecks if they were on fire. Complete morons.

padfun

(1,786 posts)
16. Why would you have to delay a kids shot in order to give an adult another one?
Sat Sep 18, 2021, 09:55 AM
Sep 2021

Don't they have more than one dose? If not, maybe they should ask for more supply.

marble falls

(57,075 posts)
17. Good question. I'm not sure either, especially when it seemed for a while they had control ...
Sat Sep 18, 2021, 12:29 PM
Sep 2021

... makes me think that herd immunity has to be brought up to a higher percentage that it was thought and as quickly as possible.

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