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TomCADem

(17,382 posts)
Fri Sep 17, 2021, 03:52 PM Sep 2021

CDC study finds Moderna vaccine is best at preventing Covid-19 hospitalization

Source: MSN/Politico

Moderna’s Covid-19 vaccine is the most effective at protecting against Covid-19 hospitalizations, according to a study published Friday by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.

An analysis of more than 3,600 adults hospitalized at 21 U.S. facilities from March to August found that vaccine efficacy against hospitalization was 93 percent for the Moderna vaccine compared to 88 percent for the Pfizer-BioNTech shot.

The effectiveness of the Pfizer-BioNTech vaccine declined significantly after 120 days, the CDC’s report said, although it still provided strong protection against severe disease.

The Moderna vaccine also produced higher post-vaccination antibody levels than the Pfizer-BioNTech vaccine, the study found.

Read more: https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/medical/cdc-study-finds-moderna-vaccine-is-best-at-preventing-covid-19-hospitalization/ar-AAOyCHg?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=U531



Oh well, I got the Pfizer vaccine, because at the time it seemed to have the mildest side effect where as my cousin felt pretty ill for a day with the Moderna vaccine.
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CDC study finds Moderna vaccine is best at preventing Covid-19 hospitalization (Original Post) TomCADem Sep 2021 OP
88% verses 93%, is that really a significant difference Politico? JohnSJ Sep 2021 #1
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Sep 2021 #4
The messaging has been terrible from both the CDC and WHO, and the media is definitely JohnSJ Sep 2021 #12
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Sep 2021 #13
LOL. Can't counter that one, though trump did put his people in the CDC to help the confusion JohnSJ Sep 2021 #14
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Sep 2021 #15
yup JohnSJ Sep 2021 #16
I am not really crazy about the idea of trying to massage facts for messaging purposes TomCADem Sep 2021 #19
I agree JohnSJ Sep 2021 #22
See this chart Nasruddin Sep 2021 #21
it's disappointing for them to lead with that comparison cadoman Sep 2021 #25
I got the Moderna because that's what was available when I got my appointment. Arkansas Granny Sep 2021 #2
Same here. I didn't receive my first shot until February. Texin Sep 2021 #3
The reports of clotting issues were mostly with the AstraZeneca and JNJ. The mRNA vaccines JohnSJ Sep 2021 #8
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Sep 2021 #6
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Sep 2021 #9
I was offered the choice. AngryOldDem Sep 2021 #17
My daughter and I were wondering Marthe48 Sep 2021 #5
"I think our choices were geographical-she lives in an urban area and I live in Appalchia" BumRushDaShow Sep 2021 #11
They are both damn effective then. Nt BootinUp Sep 2021 #7
Exactly. 88% verses 93%. I'll take those odds anyday JohnSJ Sep 2021 #10
That was the overall number. LisaL Sep 2021 #28
77% is still very effective JohnSJ Sep 2021 #29
Guess they will need to give those of us that had the Pfizer vaccine a booster sooner. cstanleytech Sep 2021 #18
I received the Moderna vaccine at UNLV on the first day I was eligible for it Moebym Sep 2021 #20
I'm double Pfizered... Mawspam2 Sep 2021 #23
Moderna shots had over 3x more mRNA in the vaccine than Pfizer. NH Ethylene Sep 2021 #24
Yep, it's a higher dose. LisaL Sep 2021 #27
Interesting, In north carolina Karma13612 Sep 2021 #26
I got Pfizer Sabrielo Sep 2021 #30
I got the J&J. I work in an elementary school. I really wish I could get a booster. GPV Sep 2021 #31

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JohnSJ

(92,061 posts)
12. The messaging has been terrible from both the CDC and WHO, and the media is definitely
Fri Sep 17, 2021, 04:14 PM
Sep 2021

exploiting it, not in a good way





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TomCADem

(17,382 posts)
19. I am not really crazy about the idea of trying to massage facts for messaging purposes
Fri Sep 17, 2021, 05:04 PM
Sep 2021

Reality and science do not always lend themselves to sound bites.

Nasruddin

(750 posts)
21. See this chart
Fri Sep 17, 2021, 05:50 PM
Sep 2021

The innumerate idiots who published that story made a hash of it, but this chart makes it clear


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(The rest of Dr Topol's commentary is, as usual, very helpful)

cadoman

(792 posts)
25. it's disappointing for them to lead with that comparison
Sat Sep 18, 2021, 01:58 AM
Sep 2021

That small a difference is accounted for by dozens of other possible factors. I think a big one is simply that the vaccines get distributed across different regions with different hospitalization standards and demographics.

There's so much misinformation being spread right now. We don't need our most excellent reporting outlets to put inaccurate ideas in people's heads, and that's what this headline did.

Arkansas Granny

(31,507 posts)
2. I got the Moderna because that's what was available when I got my appointment.
Fri Sep 17, 2021, 03:58 PM
Sep 2021

Early on we were being advised to take any of the vaccines ASAP.

Texin

(2,590 posts)
3. Same here. I didn't receive my first shot until February.
Fri Sep 17, 2021, 04:02 PM
Sep 2021

But I had wanted to get the Moderna vaccine as opposed to the J&J or Pfizer because there were reports at the time that people were having weird clotting issues with Pfizer.

JohnSJ

(92,061 posts)
8. The reports of clotting issues were mostly with the AstraZeneca and JNJ. The mRNA vaccines
Fri Sep 17, 2021, 04:11 PM
Sep 2021

both Pfizer and Moderna had some reports of very rare clotting issues, but there was no definite correlation to attribute them to the mRNA vaccines.

The one thing the data seems to indicate with the mRNA vaccines is that the Moderna vaccine is slightly more effective in preventing serious disease, 5%

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AngryOldDem

(14,061 posts)
17. I was offered the choice.
Fri Sep 17, 2021, 04:42 PM
Sep 2021

I really don’t know why I said Moderna. Yes, the side effects of the second shot were not pleasant, but compared to getting COVID I’m not complaining.

Waiting to see what the recommendation is about Moderna.

Marthe48

(16,908 posts)
5. My daughter and I were wondering
Fri Sep 17, 2021, 04:07 PM
Sep 2021

I think our choices were geographical-she lives in an urban area and I live in Appalchia. She got Pfizer and I got Moderna. One of my local friends said she thought Moderna was available in rural areas because transport and storage didn't require the super cold temps Pfizer does.

As for getting a booster, I'll wait to see what is recommended.

Even if $$$$$$$$$ is involved, I'd love to see the companies sharing their R&D, and get the vaccines out to the public, all over the world. And more people get it.

BumRushDaShow

(128,527 posts)
11. "I think our choices were geographical-she lives in an urban area and I live in Appalchia"
Fri Sep 17, 2021, 04:14 PM
Sep 2021

I live in Philly and got Moderna - but it was done literally right when they started approving and distributing vaccines to some of the independent pharmacies and the one nearest to me had Moderna.

The big mass vaccination sites were doing Pfizer.

As a note, Pfizer was approved for an EUA before Moderna was too...

Moebym

(989 posts)
20. I received the Moderna vaccine at UNLV on the first day I was eligible for it
Fri Sep 17, 2021, 05:21 PM
Sep 2021

I had no idea which one I'd be receiving, and I didn't have a preference at the time - my top priority was to get vaccinated as soon as possible.

NH Ethylene

(30,804 posts)
24. Moderna shots had over 3x more mRNA in the vaccine than Pfizer.
Sat Sep 18, 2021, 12:41 AM
Sep 2021

100 micrograms for Moderna, 30 for Pfizer. Maybe that's why it's lasting longer, and also why there were more side effects with Moderna vaccines than the Pfizer.

LisaL

(44,972 posts)
27. Yep, it's a higher dose.
Sat Sep 18, 2021, 04:05 PM
Sep 2021

I originally wanted Pfizer, but Moderna was what I could get vaccinated with first. Now I am glad I got Moderna. It seems to have better staying power than Pfizer.

Karma13612

(4,544 posts)
26. Interesting, In north carolina
Sat Sep 18, 2021, 01:43 PM
Sep 2021

We didn’t have a choice thru Walgreens. It was only Moderna. Yea, I was sick for a full 24 hours following the 2nd shot. But, Now I’m slightly, slightly better covered. I think 5% difference in the effectiveness is pretty insignificant.

All I care about now is getting the booster when it is recommended and available since I’m 67 with history of some lung issues.


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