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Omaha Steve

(99,632 posts)
Mon Sep 20, 2021, 06:21 AM Sep 2021

US launches mass expulsion of Haitian migrants from Texas

Source: AP

By JUAN A. LOZANO, ERIC GAY, ELLIOT SPAGAT and EVENS SANON

DEL RIO, Texas (AP) — The U.S. is flying Haitians camped in a Texas border town back to their homeland and blocking others from crossing the border from Mexico in a massive show of force that signals the beginning of what could be one of America’s swiftest, large-scale expulsions of migrants or refugees in decades.

More than 320 migrants arrived in Port-au-Prince on three flights Sunday, and Haiti said six flights were expected Tuesday. In all, U.S. authorities moved to expel many of the more 12,000 migrants camped around a bridge in Del Rio, Texas, after crossing from Ciudad Acuña, Mexico.

The U.S. plans to begin seven expulsion flights daily on Wednesday, four to Port-au-Prince and three to Cap-Haitien, according to a U.S. official who was not authorized to discuss the matter publicly. Flights will continue to depart from San Antonio but authorities may add El Paso, the official said.

The only obvious parallel for such an expulsion without an opportunity to seek asylum was in 1992 when the Coast Guard intercepted Haitian refugees at sea, said Yael Schacher, senior U.S. advocate at Refugees International whose doctoral studies focused on the history of U.S. asylum law.



U.S. Customs and Border Protection mounted officers attempt to contain migrants as they cross the Rio Grande from Ciudad Acuña, Mexico, into Del Rio, Texas, Sunday, Sept. 19, 2021. Thousands of Haitian migrants have been arriving to Del Rio, Texas, as authorities attempt to close the border to stop the flow of migrants. (AP Photo/Felix Marquez)



Read more: https://apnews.com/article/health-mexico-texas-caribbean-immigration-56f1f0093039e2a43e128b7ef0015485
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US launches mass expulsion of Haitian migrants from Texas (Original Post) Omaha Steve Sep 2021 OP
A remarkable silent topic ... TomWilm Sep 2021 #1
Appropriate response by the Biden admin Devil Child Sep 2021 #2
Easy to say from the comfort of your laptop. ForgoTheConsequence Sep 2021 #3
Comfort of a smart phone Devil Child Sep 2021 #4
Only if they fly you out and fly more Haitians in. ForgoTheConsequence Sep 2021 #5
If I were an undocumented migrant who just crossed a national border illegally Devil Child Sep 2021 #8
Wow Orrex Sep 2021 #13
I'm right where I need to be Devil Child Sep 2021 #14
As a non-zealot, I'm under no obligation to agree with everything that anyone says Orrex Sep 2021 #16
So, Devil Child Sep 2021 #17
See? And that was the predicted inaccurate paraphrase. Orrex Sep 2021 #18
Anytime n/t Devil Child Sep 2021 #19
20% of the world's people live on dollar a day. EX500rider Sep 2021 #27
I think we have got to get away from the mindset that the USA is responsible for solving the totodeinhere Sep 2021 #30
Biden Continues Trump's Policy in Haiti Despite Bipartisan Congressional Pushback ForgoTheConsequence Sep 2021 #6
Six members of the House isn't much of a 'pushback' Jose Garcia Sep 2021 #23
Federal administrative law derives from the Executive branch. ForgoTheConsequence Sep 2021 #26
Yes but we desperately need Congress to pass immigration reform. totodeinhere Sep 2021 #31
Congress could pass laws to take control of what is happening Steelrolled Sep 2021 #33
Tragic but there does not appear to be any other good option. honest.abe Sep 2021 #7
I have to agree no win for Biden either way. A reminder we don't have open borders. FloridaBlues Sep 2021 #9
Yeah I agree with what Biden is doing. honest.abe Sep 2021 #12
And people have been told for MONTHS "Do not come!" oldsoftie Sep 2021 #10
We actually need more immigrants. Elessar Zappa Sep 2021 #20
Thats fine with me. Immigration is what sets us apart from the rest of the world oldsoftie Sep 2021 #21
We have 100,000+ Afghanis to resettle Ritabert Sep 2021 #11
Post removed Post removed Sep 2021 #15
Sending Haitians back to a Haiti that is telling from a second devastating earthquake and Martin68 Sep 2021 #22
No, sending them back is not violating any immigration laws. totodeinhere Sep 2021 #32
Criminal as in "a crime against humanity." I believe a good case could be made for that. Martin68 Sep 2021 #36
OK, thanks for the clarification. n/t totodeinhere Sep 2021 #37
Good for Biden for now bowing to pressure Polybius Sep 2021 #24
We can't take in an unlimited amount of undocumented refugees Dopers_Greed Sep 2021 #25
I agree with you.. speaktruthtopower Sep 2021 #28
I need a doctor sarisataka Sep 2021 #29
This is how politics works, Steelrolled Sep 2021 #34
Many of these posts sound like sarisataka Sep 2021 #35

ForgoTheConsequence

(4,868 posts)
3. Easy to say from the comfort of your laptop.
Mon Sep 20, 2021, 07:46 AM
Sep 2021

May you never find yourself in a desperate situation where your fellow brother/sister turns their back.

 

Devil Child

(2,728 posts)
8. If I were an undocumented migrant who just crossed a national border illegally
Mon Sep 20, 2021, 07:58 AM
Sep 2021

Feel free to send me back from where I originated, as that should happen to all who do so.

Thank you Biden.

 

Devil Child

(2,728 posts)
14. I'm right where I need to be
Mon Sep 20, 2021, 09:25 AM
Sep 2021

Open borders is not a policy I will ever support.

Which seems to put me in alignment with Biden's administration.

Again, thank you Joe Biden for enforcing our nation's immigration laws.

Orrex

(63,210 posts)
16. As a non-zealot, I'm under no obligation to agree with everything that anyone says
Mon Sep 20, 2021, 10:27 AM
Sep 2021

To wit, I can support the Biden administration without supporting an inhumane policy, even as I understand him to be constrained by inhumane laws.

If you're inclined to reply with some subject line that begins "So," let me state up front that I recognize these as the strawman paraphrases that they are, and I see no need to respond to them.

 

Devil Child

(2,728 posts)
17. So,
Mon Sep 20, 2021, 10:32 AM
Sep 2021

Where you see inhumane policy I see sane and needed policy.

Biden is acting in a sane and necessary way. Open-borders is insanity.

totodeinhere

(13,058 posts)
30. I think we have got to get away from the mindset that the USA is responsible for solving the
Mon Sep 20, 2021, 11:00 PM
Sep 2021

problems of the world. The fact is that we do not have the wherewithal or the resources to take on the responsibility of caring for everyone in the world who needs help and wants to come here. We should provide foreign aid to Haiti and provide other assistance, but we are not set up at the border to handle that hoard of migrants trying to crash our border.

ForgoTheConsequence

(4,868 posts)
6. Biden Continues Trump's Policy in Haiti Despite Bipartisan Congressional Pushback
Mon Sep 20, 2021, 07:52 AM
Sep 2021

Former president Donald Trump, whose administration provided steadfast support to the current Haitian president, notoriously referred to the nation as a “shithole” after a campaign stop in Miami’s Little Haiti neighborhood. During his own campaign, Biden stated that “The Trump Administration is abandoning the Haitian people while the country’s political crisis is paralyzing that nation.” Yet, under the Biden administration, there has been no sign of significant change in policy toward Haiti. Though the Biden administration did grant Temporary Protected Status (TPS) to Haitian migrants this spring, in its first few months in office, the new administration deported more Haitians than the Trump administration did in the entirely of fiscal year 2020. Unfortunately, this has all occurred largely outside the spotlight of the international media.

For all the rhetoric on race and reckoning with how the US’s racist past connects with institutional racism in the present, US policy continues to stifle democracy and economic advancement in the only country founded after a successful slave revolt. Will the Biden administration finally change course in Haiti, or will it continue Trump’s racist foreign policy off the coast of Florida?

https://cepr.net/biden-continues-trumps-policy-in-haiti-despite-bipartisan-congressional-pushback/

Jose Garcia

(2,598 posts)
23. Six members of the House isn't much of a 'pushback'
Mon Sep 20, 2021, 02:36 PM
Sep 2021

I am tired of hearing from members of Congress whining about what the administration is doing or not doing. How about do your job and pass a law to set administrative policy?

totodeinhere

(13,058 posts)
31. Yes but we desperately need Congress to pass immigration reform.
Mon Sep 20, 2021, 11:01 PM
Sep 2021

It can't all be accomplished at the executive level.

 

Steelrolled

(2,022 posts)
33. Congress could pass laws to take control of what is happening
Tue Sep 21, 2021, 06:08 AM
Sep 2021

but no-one wants to touch it (and I can't blame them, politics is all about getting re-elected).

honest.abe

(8,678 posts)
7. Tragic but there does not appear to be any other good option.
Mon Sep 20, 2021, 07:54 AM
Sep 2021

Biden will be criticized not matter what he does here.

FloridaBlues

(4,008 posts)
9. I have to agree no win for Biden either way. A reminder we don't have open borders.
Mon Sep 20, 2021, 08:19 AM
Sep 2021

HHS Secretary had a great interview with Jim Acosta yesterday. Explaining our policies.

oldsoftie

(12,536 posts)
10. And people have been told for MONTHS "Do not come!"
Mon Sep 20, 2021, 08:53 AM
Sep 2021

The message has been put out there even in S America.
Its time they listen. We cannot take in unlimited numbers of people

Elessar Zappa

(13,991 posts)
20. We actually need more immigrants.
Mon Sep 20, 2021, 11:24 AM
Sep 2021

The construction industry is short 400,000 people and that deficit will increase if and when infrastructure passes. I’m not saying people should come illegally but we need to up the amount of legal immigrants we take in.

oldsoftie

(12,536 posts)
21. Thats fine with me. Immigration is what sets us apart from the rest of the world
Mon Sep 20, 2021, 11:37 AM
Sep 2021

It keeps our economy growing. Yes, we need to increase the number of legal immigrants. But we cannot let people randomly come in, unvaccinated, en masse like what we're seeing now.
And if we raised the number allowed to come in legally, it MIGHT decrease the number coming illegally.
And also start STRICTLY enforcing the law against businesses who continue to hire illegally

Ritabert

(667 posts)
11. We have 100,000+ Afghanis to resettle
Mon Sep 20, 2021, 09:04 AM
Sep 2021

....not to mention Central Americans who have been waiting in Mexico for months if not years for a hearing. Better to send more aid to Haiti.

Response to Omaha Steve (Original post)

Martin68

(22,801 posts)
22. Sending Haitians back to a Haiti that is telling from a second devastating earthquake and
Mon Sep 20, 2021, 02:04 PM
Sep 2021

a very unstable political situation is criminal.

totodeinhere

(13,058 posts)
32. No, sending them back is not violating any immigration laws.
Mon Sep 20, 2021, 11:04 PM
Sep 2021

The executive traditionally has wide discretion in this area. I think one can make a good case that sending them back is immoral, but not criminal. Nobody in the administration will be indicted for this.

Martin68

(22,801 posts)
36. Criminal as in "a crime against humanity." I believe a good case could be made for that.
Tue Sep 21, 2021, 01:25 PM
Sep 2021

I was not referring to the US legal system. I was speaking about morality.

Dopers_Greed

(2,640 posts)
25. We can't take in an unlimited amount of undocumented refugees
Mon Sep 20, 2021, 03:26 PM
Sep 2021

There's a reason why there's a process for it, and why there's a set number we can take.

Is the US supposed to re-settle every single person around the world who's in poverty?

This is only going to get worse over time as more countries start to collapse from climate change and extremism.

 

Steelrolled

(2,022 posts)
34. This is how politics works,
Tue Sep 21, 2021, 06:13 AM
Sep 2021

so I'm not surprised in general. But I am surprised at how close it is to a 100% change in position.

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