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Omaha Steve

(99,618 posts)
Tue Sep 21, 2021, 10:06 AM Sep 2021

Trudeau's party wins Canada vote but fails to get majority

Source: AP

By ROB GILLIES

TORONTO (AP) — Prime Minister Justin Trudeau’s Liberal Party secured victory in parliamentary elections but failed to get the majority he wanted in a vote that focused on the coronavirus pandemic but that many Canadians saw as unnecessary.

Trudeau entered Monday’s election leading a stable minority government that wasn’t under threat of being toppled — but he was hoping Canadians would reward him with a majority for navigating the pandemic better than many other leaders. Still, Trudeau struggled to justify why he called the election early given the virus, and the opposition was relentless in accusing him of holding the vote two years before the deadline for his own personal ambition.

In the end, the gamble did not pay off, and the results nearly mirrored those of two years ago. The Liberal Party was leading or elected in 158 seats — one more than they won 2019, and 12 short of the 170 needed for a majority in the House of Commons.


Trudeau’s party wins Canada vote but fails to get majority
By ROB GILLIES
an hour ago
Prime Minister Justin Trudeau poses for a photo as he greets commuters at a Montreal Metro station on Tuesday, Sept. 21, 2021. Trudeau’s Liberal Party has secured victory in parliamentary elections but failed to get the majority he wanted in a vote that focused on the coronavirus pandemic but that many Canadians saw as unnecessary. (Sean Kilpatrick/The Canadian Press via AP)
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Prime Minister Justin Trudeau poses for a photo as he greets commuters at a Montreal Metro station on Tuesday, Sept. 21, 2021. Trudeau’s Liberal Party has secured victory in parliamentary elections but failed to get the majority he wanted in a vote that focused on the coronavirus pandemic but that many Canadians saw as unnecessary. (Sean Kilpatrick/The Canadian Press via AP)
TORONTO (AP) — Prime Minister Justin Trudeau’s Liberal Party secured victory in parliamentary elections but failed to get the majority he wanted in a vote that focused on the coronavirus pandemic but that many Canadians saw as unnecessary.

Trudeau entered Monday’s election leading a stable minority government that wasn’t under threat of being toppled — but he was hoping Canadians would reward him with a majority for navigating the pandemic better than many other leaders. Still, Trudeau struggled to justify why he called the election early given the virus, and the opposition was relentless in accusing him of holding the vote two years before the deadline for his own personal ambition.

In the end, the gamble did not pay off, and the results nearly mirrored those of two years ago. The Liberal Party was leading or elected in 158 seats — one more than they won 2019, and 12 short of the 170 needed for a majority in the House of Commons.

The Conservatives were leading or elected in 119 seats, two less than they won in 2019. The leftist New Democrats were leading or elected in 25, while the Bloc Québécois were leading or elected in 34 and the Greens were down to two.



Prime Minister Justin Trudeau poses for a photo as he greets commuters at a Montreal Metro station on Tuesday, Sept. 21, 2021. Trudeau’s Liberal Party has secured victory in parliamentary elections but failed to get the majority he wanted in a vote that focused on the coronavirus pandemic but that many Canadians saw as unnecessary. (Sean Kilpatrick/The Canadian Press via AP)


Read more: https://apnews.com/article/canada-health-elections-toronto-coronavirus-pandemic-6e641b4721f22c6dab1435a539d39ed7

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Trudeau's party wins Canada vote but fails to get majority (Original Post) Omaha Steve Sep 2021 OP
Congrats Canucks! BlueWavePsych Sep 2021 #1
YES!!!! gopiscrap Sep 2021 #16
Hate to disappoint you... C_eh_N_eh_D_eh Sep 2021 #20
He only did some of it so therefore he didn't do any of it? :eyes: . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Sep 2021 #21
My thoughts on the Canadian election: luvtheGWN Sep 2021 #2
It appears to me.... BradAllison Sep 2021 #3
This message was self-deleted by its author Hiawatha Pete Sep 2021 #14
Thanks for the info BradAllison Sep 2021 #17
sorta kinda except re winners Bernardo de La Paz Sep 2021 #22
Thank you for your enlightening perspective onetexan Sep 2021 #4
Nothing. He didn't have a majority to begin with. malthaussen Sep 2021 #6
I wonder why Bernie Sanders was supporting a "spoiler" candidate... NurseJackie Sep 2021 #8
Why would Bernie be campaigning for anyone in Canada? AZSkiffyGeek Sep 2021 #9
This message was self-deleted by its author Hiawatha Pete Sep 2021 #13
This message was self-deleted by its author Hiawatha Pete Sep 2021 #12
As the party leader with the plurality of elected members, luvtheGWN Sep 2021 #19
If you haven't heard ravings between people about politics then you have not had the Bev54 Sep 2021 #7
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Sep 2021 #10
This message was self-deleted by its author Hiawatha Pete Sep 2021 #11
Because the alternative is so much better. malthaussen Sep 2021 #5
What a waste of time, money and the health and safety of Canada. Fiendish Thingy Sep 2021 #15
Big losers were the Greens OnlinePoker Sep 2021 #18
Thanks guys Texaswitchy Sep 2021 #23

BlueWavePsych

(2,635 posts)
1. Congrats Canucks!
Tue Sep 21, 2021, 10:10 AM
Sep 2021


Now ban all handguns, enforce vaccine mandates everywhere, strengthen universal healthcare and abortion access, implement enhanced climate change/ green energy programs, tax the rich and more! Maybe one day we can mimic the same liberal agendas (to the same extent) here ...

luvtheGWN

(1,336 posts)
2. My thoughts on the Canadian election:
Tue Sep 21, 2021, 10:22 AM
Sep 2021

Many Canadians thought the election was an unnecessary expense (and I agree) and so either refused to vote or else voted for other parties (NDP, Green).

But enough of us were so disgusted with the Conservative Party, some candidates of which were too far right, that we were not about to give them a chance to form the government.

And I truly believe that the Trump years heavily influenced that thinking. Those far right candidates (as well as O'Toole, the Party leader) wanted to bring back assault rifles. Some of them wanted to ban abortion (Canada has NO laws regarding abortion) and some of them introduced MAGA-type campaign tactics. Canadians are, by and large, moderates. I've never witnessed a shouting match about politics between family and friends, and it's not in our nature to cut people out of our lives if they don't vote the way we do. That sort of thing happens with cults -- religious or otherwise. Trumpism is a cult.

By the way, it often happens that minority governments are most effective in making changes that benefit the greatest number of citizens.

BradAllison

(1,879 posts)
3. It appears to me....
Tue Sep 21, 2021, 10:32 AM
Sep 2021

...as an outsider, NDP was the night's "big winner", tongue in cheek picking up one new seat. Supposedly the party is broke, and wasn't thrilled with this election. JT and Singh got a bit nasty with each other and it'll be curious to see how that affects the relationship going forward.

Far right People's Party did jack and the Green's leader got trounced in her race.

O' Toole seems reasonable for a Con leader, but my guess is he'll get sacked, probably leading to a more hard right turn.

In the end Justin's goal was to get a majority government and it didn't happen. It will most likely insulate him for a good while from another election, but the phrase "let's get back to work" was heard often last night on CBC.

If I was a Canadian I'd probably vote Liberal for JT for his leadership but party wise I'm more NDP.

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Bernardo de La Paz

(49,001 posts)
22. sorta kinda except re winners
Tue Sep 21, 2021, 04:21 PM
Sep 2021

Everybody got sharp and pushed buttons and were a bit nasty, but O'Toole and Singh got personal. The closest Trudeau got to being personal was accusing O'Toole of being two-faced to base compared to the public on the issues of gun control, abortion, and climate control. The evidence is good that he is two-faced, prompting post-publication revisions of the Conservative Party platform. O'Toole buffoonishly painted Trudeau as "the most corrupt government in Canadian history" (I think that is nearly exact). Singh cynically painted Trudeau as completely self-interested lazy do-nothing ("the rich have had their prime minister, now you can have yours" ).

NDP didn't gain or lose much (hardly any change for six main parties). They held their ground. Jagmeet is personally the most popular.

The biggest loser was the Green Party which suffered internal warfare and their leader came in fourth in her race. I think she was mistreated by her party and her party behaved in a very discombobulated way.

The tRump-esque party, the People's Party of Canada, PPC, were the biggest winners ("freedom, you have rights, no mandates!" ). Though they didn't elect any Members again, not even their leader, their percentage vote became significant and may have spoiled some seats for the Conservatives.

All the parties now have an interest in cooperating and none of them wants to trigger an election and that will probably hold for more than two years. So Trudeau and the Liberals, often along with the NDP and less often Bloc and conceivably even Conservative Party will get some things done. This will be turned into "did nothing" by rhetoric.

onetexan

(13,040 posts)
4. Thank you for your enlightening perspective
Tue Sep 21, 2021, 10:38 AM
Sep 2021

What happens now that Trudeau's party did not have majority?

malthaussen

(17,193 posts)
6. Nothing. He didn't have a majority to begin with.
Tue Sep 21, 2021, 10:41 AM
Sep 2021

He was hoping to secure one in this election. Didn't happen. Waste of time, in the opinion of many of my Canadian friends.

-- Mal

NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
8. I wonder why Bernie Sanders was supporting a "spoiler" candidate...
Tue Sep 21, 2021, 10:56 AM
Sep 2021
What happens now that Trudeau's party did not have majority?
I wonder why Bernie Sanders was supporting a "spoiler" candidate instead of Trudeau. Would things have favored Trudeau more without that type of interference? Did it dissuade people from supporting Trudeau? Could he have otherwise managed to secure a majority? I really didn't see what good purpose it served, and whatever imagined benefits there may have been, it certainly wasn't worth the actual risks involved.

AZSkiffyGeek

(11,010 posts)
9. Why would Bernie be campaigning for anyone in Canada?
Tue Sep 21, 2021, 11:06 AM
Sep 2021

We have laws against foreign interference in our elections - doesn't Canada?

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luvtheGWN

(1,336 posts)
19. As the party leader with the plurality of elected members,
Tue Sep 21, 2021, 01:04 PM
Sep 2021

he will be asked by the Governor General to become Prime Minister (for the 3rd time). So, even though he doesn't have a majority of elected members, the Liberal Party has more than any other party.

The Liberal Party gets to set the agenda for the incoming government, and may need the support of members from the other parties (primarily the NDP) for certain items to pass the House and move on to the Senate.

Bev54

(10,051 posts)
7. If you haven't heard ravings between people about politics then you have not had the
Tue Sep 21, 2021, 10:48 AM
Sep 2021

displeasure of reading some of the comments I have read on a small city rant and rave which is to be about local business. It seems to have been taken over by the antivaxxers and antimaskholes which are largely conservatives and turn every comment into a political fight. They particularly hate Trudeau and their statements are ignorant and disgusting. I am disgusted by some of the comments being made "in support of conservatives" and against anyone with a differing view. I have always been proud to say, In Canada, we do not know our neighbours politics or religion, because it is none of our business. There seems to be a new element here, trying to change that to an American republican style. Luckily they are a minority but they are obnoxious and loud.

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malthaussen

(17,193 posts)
5. Because the alternative is so much better.
Tue Sep 21, 2021, 10:38 AM
Sep 2021

Hey, but the Liberals gained a seat, things are looking up!

-- Mal

Fiendish Thingy

(15,601 posts)
15. What a waste of time, money and the health and safety of Canada.
Tue Sep 21, 2021, 12:00 PM
Sep 2021

Liberals gained what, 3 seats?

Looks like my riding will flip from Green to NDP.

Trudeau should’ve waited until his term was up.

OnlinePoker

(5,719 posts)
18. Big losers were the Greens
Tue Sep 21, 2021, 12:44 PM
Sep 2021

They dropped from 6.5% of the popular vote last election to only 2.3% and lost one seat. The Conservatives actually won the popular vote with 34% to the Liberals 32.2%, but the Liberals got 158 seats compared to Conservative's 119 (all subject to change when the mail in ballots get counted). The Conservatives actually lost a few seats because of the far right People's Party (think Canada's Tea Party). The PPC siphoned 5.1% of the vote that would probably have gone to the Cons.

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