'Necessary for security': veteran Taliban enforcer says amputations will resume
Last edited Fri Sep 24, 2021, 10:58 AM - Edit history (1)
Source: The Guardian UK
Nooruddin Turabi, in charge of Afghan prisons, says executions and removal of hands will restart, but possibly not in public
Afghanistan's Taliban leader Mullah Nooruddin Turabi. 'No one will tell us what our laws should be.'
The Taliban will resume executions and the amputation of hands for criminals they convict, in a return to their harsh version of Islamic justice. According to a senior official a veteran leader of the hardline Islamist group who was in charge of justice during its previous period in power executions would not necessarily take place in public as they did before. The Talibans first period ruling Afghanistan during the 1990s, before they were toppled by a US-led invasion in 2001 following the 9/11 attacks, was marked by the grisly excesses of its perfunctory justice system, which included public executions in the football stadium in Kabul.
In an interview with Associated Press, Mullah Nooruddin Turabi who was justice minister and head of the so-called ministry of propagation of virtue and prevention of vice during the Talibans previous rule dismissed outrage over the Talibans executions in the past, which sometimes took place in front of crowds at a stadium, and warned the world against interfering with Afghanistans new rulers. Under the new Taliban government, Turabi is in charge of prisons. He is among a number of Taliban leaders, including members of the all-male interim cabinet, who are on a United Nations sanctions list.
Everyone criticised us for the punishments in the stadium, but we have never said anything about their laws and their punishments, Turabi said in Kabul. No one will tell us what our laws should be. We will follow Islam and we will make our laws on the Quran. Cutting off of hands is very necessary for security, Turabi added, saying it had a deterrent effect. He said the cabinet was studying whether to carry out punishments in public and would develop a policy.
Turabis comments follow warnings from Afghans who fled the country following the US withdrawal that the Talibans system of justice was more likely to follow the model of the way its shadow courts meted out punishments in areas it controlled, rather than the system that operated under the western-backed former government. The shadow court system, headed by Mawlavi Abdul Hakim Sharie, who is the Talibans new justice minister, was used to undermine the authority of the previous regime, resolving disputes in a country where many felt they had little access to legal remedy.
snip
Read more: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/sep/24/afghanistan-taliban-enforcer-says-amputations-will-resume
Monsieur_Grumpe
(108 posts)Welcome to the the 12th century.
Celerity
(42,674 posts)Javaman
(62,444 posts)Probatim
(2,459 posts)underpants
(182,285 posts)Cutting off hands.
GAWD!!!
Itchinjim
(3,083 posts)harumph
(1,871 posts)while we have a deficit of even adequate justice. How many fingers
should our insurrectionists lose? Oh no! that would be barbaric!
How many years will our white collar criminal get before he's out
to steal again? None. He's very sorry you see.
Cutting off hands is worthy of ridicule - not arguing - but little or no
consequences encourages bad behavior. We seem to have no consequences
for peddling in lies that are killing people - or those who commit treasonous
acts. The oligarchs that run this country don't want to set a bad example.
The Blue Flower
(5,420 posts)Don't think so.
Delphinus
(11,808 posts)Even before this I said that in light of their treatment of females it should be a resounding NO.
rainin
(3,010 posts)If he was, every story written should include that detail.
Ziggysmom
(3,374 posts)Turbineguy
(37,213 posts)VarryOn
(2,343 posts)TeamProg
(5,788 posts)Eye for an eye, tooth for a tooth. Turn in your niece or neighbor for having an abortion.
DFW
(54,058 posts)The crulest dispensers of justice, from the Inquisition to the Taliban, always seem to justify their atrocities by saying its Gods will, and then never manage to back that claim up with anything other than their own self-bestowed authority.
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)Martin68
(22,671 posts)cinematicdiversions
(1,969 posts)amcgrath
(397 posts)the taliban are returning such barbaric customs to the country, sinking their justice system to the level of those great american allies the Saudis
LastLiberal in PalmSprings
(12,539 posts)These are same guys who think "The Handmaiden's Tale" is an instruction book.
radicalleft
(478 posts)Folks are arguing that these "barbaric" practices are a cultural & religious right and damn anyone for trying to dictate otherwise!
Celerity
(42,674 posts)radicalleft
(478 posts)Celerity
(42,674 posts)Owl
(3,629 posts)Marthe48
(16,696 posts)They usually cut off the right hand, which is used for communal eating. Not allowed to put the left hand in the pot, because of its uses. So basically, sentencing a person to starvation.
r's are heading us that way.
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)version. No hands, but this reminds me of nice "mainstream-choice Republican" Jeb! Bush suggesting returning to shunning by family and public as a way to lower the rate of teen pregnancies. No mention of what it'd do to the very high teen suicide rate, but not long ago our movies showed death of unchaste women as the appropriate moral consequence. So I could see them returning to expelling pregnant girls from school, encouraging families to cast them out, etc.
Marthe48
(16,696 posts)I don't want to see anyone shunned, but once again, it takes 2 to tango. Unfair for the mother to be left on the dance floor alone. It is ridiculous that one gender demands sex and the other gender is taught to say no. And Mother Nature holds all of the cards for successful propagation. conservative women-haters don't condemn men for acting on their urges, but crucify women for the same urges.
taliban already told female government workers to stay home.
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)quite the chastening effect on either the female sinner or other females that was intended.
This way the female sinner get the punishment she earned (and carries any undesired consequences to the families away with her), while the good girls can be rewarded by keeping the guy available for a husband.
Should make sense to any 14th century mind.
Marthe48
(16,696 posts)Control over reproduction has nothing to do with chastity and all to do with control.
Mz Pip
(27,404 posts)These horribles want to be part of the global community. Whoever is sending them aid needs to stop; not that the Saudis give a shit about such punishments.