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Omaha Steve

(99,505 posts)
Sat Sep 25, 2021, 06:42 AM Sep 2021

Ex-California pastor gets 14 years after $33M fraud scheme

Source: AP

WESTMINSTER, Calif. (AP) — A former Southern California pastor was sentenced Friday to 14 years in federal prison for masterminding a church-based investment scheme that bilked hundreds of victims of more than $33 million.

The former pastor of the Westminster-based Church for the Healthy Self, Kent R.E. Whitney, was ordered to pay more than $22 million in restitution. He pleaded guilty last year to mail fraud and filing a false federal income tax return.

The Securities and Exchange Commission says Whitney and his co-pastor allegedly targeted the Vietnamese community in a multi-million dollar Ponzi scheme.

Whitney founded the church and operated it out of an Orange County strip mall . The church did not appear to have a sanctuary, according to the Los Angeles Times.

Read more: https://apnews.com/article/business-religion-california-c974166698e48ce8be5f1c1b566aa864

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Ex-California pastor gets 14 years after $33M fraud scheme (Original Post) Omaha Steve Sep 2021 OP
California ex-pastor. Sentenced in California. Former pastor, not ex-California. Bernardo de La Paz Sep 2021 #1
Church in strip mall bucolic_frolic Sep 2021 #2
I do not attend church there but ... left-of-center2012 Sep 2021 #4
One might think that if these churches were legit, the type of storefront shouldn't matter NullTuples Sep 2021 #18
Just coincidently, gab13by13 Sep 2021 #3
No one can belong to all of those 1 true religions so no one is going to heaven. keithbvadu2 Sep 2021 #6
Yup, you have to pick one Farmer-Rick Sep 2021 #9
Not true; my MIL was baptized / initialized in every religion her mom could find NullTuples Sep 2021 #19
She better not have missed any. keithbvadu2 Sep 2021 #20
It's okay; every one of them said THEY were the ONE TRUE RELIGION. NullTuples Sep 2021 #21
That Jesus fella, ya notice one thing about him...... 3Hotdogs Sep 2021 #5
We absolutely need to Tax the Churches. flying_wahini Sep 2021 #7
we can put him away for 14 years but no one has ever touched lard lips . AllaN01Bear Sep 2021 #8
Whitney's self not so healthy these days. Sneederbunk Sep 2021 #10
God's will be done Old Crank Sep 2021 #11
Bernie Maddoff lives on FakeNoose Sep 2021 #12
The guy has quite a history. Fraudster first, reinvents himself as a preacher jmbar2 Sep 2021 #13
Prosperity Gospel dupagelib Sep 2021 #14
If you fleece the flock Turbineguy Sep 2021 #15
He's got a pile somewhere. But he'll serve most of those fourteen ... marble falls Sep 2021 #16
Doing the Lord's work........... Bengus81 Sep 2021 #17
K&R ck4829 Sep 2021 #22

Bernardo de La Paz

(48,966 posts)
1. California ex-pastor. Sentenced in California. Former pastor, not ex-California.
Sat Sep 25, 2021, 06:54 AM
Sep 2021

I know ... headline writers

(not OP)

bucolic_frolic

(43,064 posts)
2. Church in strip mall
Sat Sep 25, 2021, 07:25 AM
Sep 2021

yes that is a red flag. All that cash flow and no divine real estate. Usually they take a 2 million mortgage for the erection of their palace to themselves in the name of Jesus. Something amiss on this one from the get go.

left-of-center2012

(34,195 posts)
4. I do not attend church there but ...
Sat Sep 25, 2021, 08:19 AM
Sep 2021

There is a small highly rated church near me that is located in a strip mall.
They have a small congregation and are very active in outreach to the local homeless population.

The appearance doesn't look like much but apparently they put their money into their work and not into their building.

NullTuples

(6,017 posts)
18. One might think that if these churches were legit, the type of storefront shouldn't matter
Sun Sep 26, 2021, 02:38 PM
Sep 2021

Shopping mall space goes unused these days.
Same for many business park buildings.
One would think that prime real estate with opulent buildings is a red flag, too.

gab13by13

(21,264 posts)
3. Just coincidently,
Sat Sep 25, 2021, 07:59 AM
Sep 2021

I am reading Stranger in a Strange Land. I have 1 chapter left to read. I laughed when I heard that this book had been banned in places, I can see why. I love reading banned books, they should be required reading.

OK, from the book; the main character makes the statement; there are thousands of religions in the world all claiming to be the 1 true religion. He then says maybe we are looking at this wrong, maybe they are all the 1 true religion since religion is based on faith.

keithbvadu2

(36,674 posts)
6. No one can belong to all of those 1 true religions so no one is going to heaven.
Sat Sep 25, 2021, 09:07 AM
Sep 2021

No one can belong to all of those 1 true religions so no one is going to heaven.

Farmer-Rick

(10,140 posts)
9. Yup, you have to pick one
Sat Sep 25, 2021, 10:42 AM
Sep 2021

They can't all possibly be true because many of those religions contradict each other. It's not like they are all some version of Christianity. Some of them even believe in numerous gods.

They all cannot be true because their beliefs frequently nullify fundimental beliefs of the other religions. It's like saying both atheism and theism are true. That's just nonsense.

NullTuples

(6,017 posts)
19. Not true; my MIL was baptized / initialized in every religion her mom could find
Sun Sep 26, 2021, 02:39 PM
Sep 2021

You know, just in case...

NullTuples

(6,017 posts)
21. It's okay; every one of them said THEY were the ONE TRUE RELIGION.
Sun Sep 26, 2021, 07:54 PM
Sep 2021

So she's got like, 20x religious trueness going for her.

IIR her mother didn't actually have any religious beliefs - she just wanted to diversify the portfolio, so to speak.

3Hotdogs

(12,332 posts)
5. That Jesus fella, ya notice one thing about him......
Sat Sep 25, 2021, 08:43 AM
Sep 2021

he's always broke..... always needs money.

Maybe someone should pull his shirttails about this guy, Dave Ramsey.

marble falls

(57,013 posts)
16. He's got a pile somewhere. But he'll serve most of those fourteen ...
Sat Sep 25, 2021, 04:35 PM
Sep 2021

... he's counting on 45 being able to reprieve him.

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