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Ptah

(33,021 posts)
Sat Sep 25, 2021, 10:15 PM Sep 2021

3 dead in Amtrak train derailment in Montana

Source: ABC.COM

At least three people are dead after an Amtrak train derailed in remote northern Montana on Saturday.

Five cars on the train, Empire Builder 7/27, derailed at about 4 p.m. local time near Joplin, according to Amtrak. The rail line confirmed there were injuries in the accident, but offered no more details.

The three deaths were confirmed by the Liberty County Sheriff’s Department. Officials did not say how many total were injured.

There were approximately 147 passengers and 13 crew members on board the train, Amtrak said. The train was traveling from Chicago to Seattle.

Read more: https://abcnews.go.com/US/dead-amtrak-train-derailment-montana/story?id=80237582

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3 dead in Amtrak train derailment in Montana (Original Post) Ptah Sep 2021 OP
sigh Grasswire2 Sep 2021 #1
Huh ... a train from Chicago to Seattle ... derails in remote Montana ... Hugh_Lebowski Sep 2021 #2
took one to CA recently, we had to slow down due to warped tracks from the heat, less than 15mph Shellback Squid Sep 2021 #6
Oh, I'm so sorry. I love that train! SharonAnn Sep 2021 #3
sad nt msongs Sep 2021 #4
emprie builder . rode that train many. many years ago. AllaN01Bear Sep 2021 #5
most are 50 years old Shellback Squid Sep 2021 #7
NY Times story has "over 50 injured", but not much more in the way of details... Rollo Sep 2021 #8
Off topic kimbutgar Sep 2021 #26
That's a train journey I still want to take. PoindexterOglethorpe Sep 2021 #9
I'm newly retired and it seems like it would be a good way to see some of that area of the country Rollo Sep 2021 #10
Several years ago I took Amtrak from PoindexterOglethorpe Sep 2021 #13
I hope you do take it KT2000 Sep 2021 #21
I have that on my bucket list too BumRushDaShow Sep 2021 #25
I've taken that train roundtrip twice Tom Rinaldo Sep 2021 #11
Amtrak uses BNSF Railway's Northern Transcon from Seattle to Minneapolis. elleng Sep 2021 #12
Rode it from St. Cloud, MN to Whitefish, MT in 1994 NickB79 Sep 2021 #14
My son and I did that same leg back.in 1988. sinkingfeeling Sep 2021 #24
That sucks. 2naSalit Sep 2021 #15
Right in my neighborhood. MontanaFarmer Sep 2021 #16
Ever notice different speeds? elleng Sep 2021 #18
I've ridden the Empire Builder about a half dozen times. Staph Sep 2021 #17
K n R with... JoeOtterbein Sep 2021 #19
Ah damn. MontanaMama Sep 2021 #20
I am so sorry to see this news. BlueMTexpat Sep 2021 #22
From the Flathead Beacon: mahatmakanejeeves Sep 2021 #23
 

Hugh_Lebowski

(33,643 posts)
2. Huh ... a train from Chicago to Seattle ... derails in remote Montana ...
Sat Sep 25, 2021, 10:18 PM
Sep 2021

Interesting, that.

for the casualties

Shellback Squid

(8,914 posts)
6. took one to CA recently, we had to slow down due to warped tracks from the heat, less than 15mph
Sat Sep 25, 2021, 10:25 PM
Sep 2021

Winterpark CO to CA

Rollo

(2,559 posts)
8. NY Times story has "over 50 injured", but not much more in the way of details...
Sat Sep 25, 2021, 10:26 PM
Sep 2021

... such as cause of derailment, etc...

Photos show one car flipped on its side.

Seems likely there will be more details as the rescue and investigation continues.

PoindexterOglethorpe

(25,817 posts)
9. That's a train journey I still want to take.
Sat Sep 25, 2021, 10:28 PM
Sep 2021

I intended to take it in March last year, but the thing I was headed to in Seattle was cancelled. Maybe in a couple more years.

Rollo

(2,559 posts)
10. I'm newly retired and it seems like it would be a good way to see some of that area of the country
Sat Sep 25, 2021, 10:30 PM
Sep 2021

But I'll probably wait until the cause is known. Still, it would seem rail travel is far safer than travel by car or airliner.

PoindexterOglethorpe

(25,817 posts)
13. Several years ago I took Amtrak from
Sat Sep 25, 2021, 10:46 PM
Sep 2021

Santa Fe to Portland, OR, via Los Angeles. I just loved it. I flew back home, because taking the train back would have required an overnight in Los Angeles, and so I decided to fly instead.

In 2019 I took Amtrak from here to Kansas City and back. Great trip.

If I do the New Mexico to Seattle by train, it should be lots of fun. Here to Chicago, overnight there, then the Empire Builder to Seattle. Again, I'd fly home.

And yes, rail travel is vastly safer than by car. It might be hard to compare properly to air travel, since the last fatal commercial plane crash was in 2009. While fatal train crashes or not common, they do happen. Here's a link to the Wiki article about train crashes in the U.S. Scroll down to get to recent decades. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_American_railroad_accidents

KT2000

(20,568 posts)
21. I hope you do take it
Sun Sep 26, 2021, 03:04 AM
Sep 2021

The train takes just a slice through the terrain - no cars, no signs, rarely people, nothing but the train. From Seattle to Montana I woke up to see wild horses running early in the morning. I saw wild rock formations, waterfalls, and snow in May. That trip has really stayed with me.

BumRushDaShow

(128,533 posts)
25. I have that on my bucket list too
Sun Sep 26, 2021, 09:21 AM
Sep 2021

as a leg of a "northern route" / "southern route" loop from Philly (area) and back in a sleeper.

Between the pandemic nightmare and the deteriorating track infrastructure, it seems nowadays, doing that trip is becoming a more and more remote possibility.

Tom Rinaldo

(22,911 posts)
11. I've taken that train roundtrip twice
Sat Sep 25, 2021, 10:38 PM
Sep 2021

I love traveling on Amtrak and plan to do so again (after I chalk up some more reward points and after the pandemic hopefully stops raging.) It is a horrible thing that happened, the possibility of crashing is the furthest thing from your mind while you are riding in a long distance train. Sadly there are no guarantees, but trains are still among the safest ways to travel possible

NickB79

(19,224 posts)
14. Rode it from St. Cloud, MN to Whitefish, MT in 1994
Sat Sep 25, 2021, 10:47 PM
Sep 2021

My grandfather was a drag line operator working construction on a new bridge, and we spent a week roaming Glacier National Park and the city of Whitefish.

It was a great experience for a 14 yr old farm kid who'd never left Minnesota before. I'll never forget the beauty of seeing those white mountains every morning from the deck of our rental house.

2naSalit

(86,383 posts)
15. That sucks.
Sat Sep 25, 2021, 10:54 PM
Sep 2021

The rail line in the southern part of the state, MT Railink, has been under rail replacement all summer. A lot of freight trains go through this part. Even going down into Idaho there is a lot of rail work going on. I have been up north for a long time but the heat we have seen all summer could easily mess things up for rail travel.

MontanaFarmer

(630 posts)
16. Right in my neighborhood.
Sat Sep 25, 2021, 11:02 PM
Sep 2021

Crazy, that train goes by every day, a part of the rhythms of life. Tough deal.

Staph

(6,251 posts)
17. I've ridden the Empire Builder about a half dozen times.
Sat Sep 25, 2021, 11:15 PM
Sep 2021

My grandmother lived in Cut Bank, Montana. To visit her from West Virginia, you could drive for three or four days, or fly to Great Falls and drive 100 miles to Cut Bank, or catch the train the Cardinal and change to the Empire Builder in Chicago and the train stopped six blocks from Grandma's house. I love taking the train!


BlueMTexpat

(15,365 posts)
22. I am so sorry to see this news.
Sun Sep 26, 2021, 06:18 AM
Sep 2021

And yes, like so many other posters here, I love that train and have ridden it many times.

In fact, one week ago, I was in Essex, MT for a family wedding. That train passes through there and stops at Essex on a daily basis.

The region of the crash in "remote northern Montana" is near where I was raised.

So sorry for those who were hurt and my deepest sympathy to the families of all the casualties.

mahatmakanejeeves

(57,319 posts)
23. From the Flathead Beacon:
Sun Sep 26, 2021, 07:22 AM
Sep 2021

Last edited Sun Sep 26, 2021, 08:18 AM - Edit history (1)

One of their writers is a train enthusiast. This account, though, came from the Associated Press.

MONTANA

Sheriff’s Office: At Least 3 killed in Amtrak Derailment

The Empire Builder train derailed at 4 p.m. near Joplin, a town of about 200, Amtrak spokesman Jason Abrams said in a statement

BY ASSOCIATED PRESS
SEPTEMBER 25, 2021

JOPLIN – At least three people were killed Saturday afternoon when an Amtrak train that runs between Seattle and Chicago derailed in north-central Montana, an official with the Liberty County Sheriff’s Office said.

Dispatcher Starr Tyler told The Associated Press that three people died in the derailment. She did not have more details. Amtrak said in a statement that there were multiple injuries.

The Empire Builder train derailed at 4 p.m. near Joplin, a town of about 200, Amtrak spokesman Jason Abrams said in a statement. The accident scene is about 150 miles (241 kilometers) north of Helena and about 30 miles (48 kilometers) from the border with Canada.

The train had about 147 passengers and 13 crew members onboard, Abrams said.

{snip}

Photos posted to social media showed several cars on their sides. Passengers were standing alongside the tracks, some carrying luggage.

The images showed sunny skies, and it appeared the accident occurred along a straight section of tracks.

The photographs in the article in the Helena Independent Record show that the derailment happened at the east end of a siding, at a place the railroad calls East Buelow.

BREAKING TOP STORY

3 dead in Amtrak Empire Builder derailment on Montana Hi-Line

PAUL HAMBY Sep 25, 2021 Updated 7 hrs ago



Amtrak's westbound Empire Builder derailed near Chester Saturday afternoon.
Photo courtesy Jacob Cordeiro



An ambulance is parked at the scene of an Amtrak train derailment on Saturday near Chester, Mont. Multiple people were injured when the train that runs between Seattle and Chicago derailed Saturday, the train agency said.
Kimberly Fossen via AP

At least three people have died after an Amtrak train that runs between Seattle and Chicago derailed Saturday afternoon in north-central Montana.

The Liberty County Sheriff's Office announced that the three deaths were among the multiple casualties reported.

Five cars of the Empire Builder train 7/27 left the tracks at around 4 p.m. near Joplin, according to an emailed statement from Amtrak Public Relations Manager Jason Abrams. There were approximately 147 passengers and 13 crew members onboard.

"Amtrak is working with the local authorities to transport injured passengers, and safely evacuate all other passengers," he wrote.

The derailment occurred about 5 miles east of Chester along U.S. Highway 2, according to an alert from the Montana Department of Transportation.

{snip}

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