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mucifer

(23,542 posts)
Tue Sep 28, 2021, 08:11 PM Sep 2021

Nearly 600 United Airlines employees losing their jobs after refusing to get vaccinated; company sa

Source: Chicago Tribune

More than 99% of United Airlines’ U.S.-based employees who did not seek a religious or medical exemption from the company’s COVID-19 vaccine mandate got the shots, while 593 who refused to comply will lose their jobs.

Chicago-based United shared the results of compliance with its vaccine requirement Tuesday, its deadline to provide proof of vaccination.

“This is a historic achievement for our airline and our employees as well as for the customers and communities we serve,” United CEO Scott Kirby and president Brett Hart said in a memo to employees. “Our rationale for requiring the vaccine for all United’s U.S.-based employees was simple — to keep our people safe — and the truth is this: Everyone is safer when everyone is vaccinated, and vaccine requirements work.”

Less than 3% of the company’s 67,000 U.S. employees requested religious or medical exemptions. Earlier this month, United said employees granted exemptions would be placed on temporary leave Oct. 2, while those whose requests were denied would have five weeks to get the shots or face termination.



Read more: https://www.chicagotribune.com/business/ct-biz-united-airlines-vaccine-mandate-update-20210928-hrkp3jaynvfvbbh6jmeb6bxyoa-story.html



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Nearly 600 United Airlines employees losing their jobs after refusing to get vaccinated; company says vaccination rate at 99%
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Nearly 600 United Airlines employees losing their jobs after refusing to get vaccinated; company sa (Original Post) mucifer Sep 2021 OP
They now have more time to enjoy their freedom! LonePirate Sep 2021 #1
*snort* 😏 dixiechiken1 Sep 2021 #6
What she did! 👆 Heartstrings Sep 2021 #10
Their "Liberty." vanlassie Sep 2021 #15
No unemployment for this kind of job loss. ZonkerHarris Sep 2021 #2
adios suckers! cadoman Sep 2021 #3
I just wouldn't DownriverDem Sep 2021 #4
Bitch and moan about "tyranny" no doubt durablend Sep 2021 #22
I'm betting that they thought the wnylib Sep 2021 #34
It doesn't sound so convincing if they said whopis01 Sep 2021 #55
I have no doubt at all that wnylib Sep 2021 #56
gofundme rpannier Sep 2021 #29
LOL StarryNite Sep 2021 #51
When will these jobs be posted? ForgoTheConsequence Sep 2021 #5
It sounds like the unvaccinated still have time to change their mind GregariousGroundhog Sep 2021 #12
That's very generous of United (and smart, too -- replacing employees can be hard) . . . Journeyman Sep 2021 #21
Excellent Point DanieRains Sep 2021 #28
I, for one, don't want people with such poor critical thinking skills to have anything to do with RockRaven Sep 2021 #7
I would imagine no other airline will hire them. Lost the job AND career. Not a smart move. usaf-vet Sep 2021 #8
OwnTheLibs Airways? Lucky Luciano Sep 2021 #9
OTL for its logo? Heartstrings Sep 2021 #11
I live in Chicago now. nycbos Sep 2021 #13
That's good. Restaurants are dying for servers. marble falls Sep 2021 #14
But they will require carts! vanlassie Sep 2021 #16
And a roll of duct tape. marble falls Sep 2021 #18
Yeah, but diners don't want to die because of unvaccinated servers.... erronis Sep 2021 #53
Yay! Burger King is hiring. louis-t Sep 2021 #17
The median pay for a ticket agent is 35 grand The Jungle 1 Sep 2021 #44
Good for UA. I hope my company does the same Major Nikon Sep 2021 #19
Losing their jobs? Or giving up their jobs? Beartracks Sep 2021 #20
Well, they shouldn't have a hard time finding another job. Ka-Dinh Oy Sep 2021 #23
They deserve what they get for electing to leave a good job infullview Sep 2021 #24
Oh well ellie Sep 2021 #25
They are not "losing" their jobs,,,, Cryptoad Sep 2021 #26
+100000 Pachamama Sep 2021 #42
Headline: 66,000 United employees vaccinated? n/t hibbing Sep 2021 #27
The headline used by the Chicago Tribune is so misleading! ShazzieB Sep 2021 #30
The Hill: United Airlines to lay off nearly 600 workers who refused to get vaccinated riversedge Sep 2021 #36
they've only had about a hundred years of practice. mopinko Sep 2021 #45
Some will be hardline angry anti-vaxers who will never get jabs. They will lose their jobs. Yay! Doodley Sep 2021 #31
Bye. Be sure and check the overhead bin for your personal belongings Walleye Sep 2021 #32
It is their freedom to refuse to vaccinate. riversedge Sep 2021 #33
B'Bye. TomSlick Sep 2021 #35
I already would not go to a restaurant now because the soldierant Sep 2021 #37
Went to a Jersey Mike's recently. Prof. Toru Tanaka Sep 2021 #43
Dumb shits.....they more than likely vaccinations shots when they were younger, turbinetree Sep 2021 #38
i hate to say it , but DonCoquixote Sep 2021 #39
They're aluminum and fiberglass...n/t bluecollar2 Sep 2021 #54
The next Jim Jones must be salivating. hay rick Sep 2021 #40
Good Job United Airlines Pachamama Sep 2021 #41
Maybe they can work at my local pizza shop who keeps running a help wanted ad with the following yaesu Sep 2021 #46
In the words of Saint Ronnie...Well,they didn't get fired,they QUIT. Bengus81 Sep 2021 #47
I know less than 3% applied but what the hell is a "religious exemption"? LiberalLovinLug Sep 2021 #48
Airline passengers have been violent maskholes this past year IronLionZion Sep 2021 #49
UA needs to rot in hell CountAllVotes Sep 2021 #50
Their jobs were clearly not important Dukkha Sep 2021 #52

cadoman

(792 posts)
3. adios suckers!
Tue Sep 28, 2021, 08:32 PM
Sep 2021

600 more jobs available for 600 wonderful, vaccinated immigrants. Welcome to the USA and thank you for respecting the safety of your new neighbors!

wnylib

(21,449 posts)
34. I'm betting that they thought the
Tue Sep 28, 2021, 11:10 PM
Sep 2021

airline would eventually cave in to them. "They can't fire us all."

Might also have illusions of being missed so much and hurting United enough by their absence that management will call them back to work.



whopis01

(3,512 posts)
55. It doesn't sound so convincing if they said
Wed Sep 29, 2021, 07:45 PM
Sep 2021

“They can’t fire less than 1% of us”. Which is exactly what happened. Less than 1% of their workforce. I think they’ll get by until they fill those positions again.

wnylib

(21,449 posts)
56. I have no doubt at all that
Wed Sep 29, 2021, 08:09 PM
Sep 2021

United will get by without the 1% or less who were fired. I was only speculating on what the vaccine refusers were telling themselves about their stubborn refusal. If they thought, or hoped, that there would be too many of them for the airline to follow through with firings, they would also have hoped that sticking with their refusal would make a difference. Obviously, if that is what they thought, they were wrong.

I have a medical appointment tomorrow morning that will require me to remove my mask during a face examination. Although I am fully vaccinated, I wear a mask everywhere due to age and health issues. So I am very glad that my governor, Kathy Hochul, has made vaccinations for all healthcare workers mandatory.

GregariousGroundhog

(7,521 posts)
12. It sounds like the unvaccinated still have time to change their mind
Tue Sep 28, 2021, 09:31 PM
Sep 2021

Per the article, the unvaccinated will be put on paid leave (if they have a medical exemption) or unpaid leave (if they have a religious exemption) beginning October 3rd. Those employees without either exemption will be put on unpaid leave, and have five weeks to become vaccinated before being terminated.

Journeyman

(15,031 posts)
21. That's very generous of United (and smart, too -- replacing employees can be hard) . . .
Tue Sep 28, 2021, 09:44 PM
Sep 2021

I'm sure a few weeks (or maybe even days) of cooling their heels with no money coming in will cause a change of thought in more than most.

RockRaven

(14,966 posts)
7. I, for one, don't want people with such poor critical thinking skills to have anything to do with
Tue Sep 28, 2021, 09:16 PM
Sep 2021

airplanes/air travel anyway. So this story sounds good to me.

erronis

(15,241 posts)
53. Yeah, but diners don't want to die because of unvaccinated servers....
Wed Sep 29, 2021, 05:08 PM
Sep 2021

I've been phoning my doctors' offices to ask if everyone in the office is vaccinated before I'll visit.

Dumb, dumber, dumbest - the anti-vaxxers.

 

The Jungle 1

(4,552 posts)
44. The median pay for a ticket agent is 35 grand
Wed Sep 29, 2021, 08:33 AM
Sep 2021

Baggage handlers median pay is 31 grand. I would guess they do get healthcare.

Major Nikon

(36,827 posts)
19. Good for UA. I hope my company does the same
Tue Sep 28, 2021, 09:37 PM
Sep 2021

They are pretty much exclusively Q-loons. At least the break room TV will stop going to OAN

Ka-Dinh Oy

(11,686 posts)
23. Well, they shouldn't have a hard time finding another job.
Tue Sep 28, 2021, 09:52 PM
Sep 2021

I see a lot of help wanted signs for a lot of types of work. Minimum wage and no benifits but they are jobs. They wanted to not follow the rules and this is their consequences. No one to blame but themselves.

infullview

(981 posts)
24. They deserve what they get for electing to leave a good job
Tue Sep 28, 2021, 10:01 PM
Sep 2021

because they're dumber than a bag of rocks and believe the Earth is flat, the moon landing was a hoax, and dems eat dead babies. Now they can make use of all those social safety net programs us libtards put in place to help those incapable of helping themselves.

Pachamama

(16,887 posts)
42. +100000
Wed Sep 29, 2021, 02:17 AM
Sep 2021

Exactly - this is the correct description

They are failing to meet a job requirement- by choice

ShazzieB

(16,392 posts)
30. The headline used by the Chicago Tribune is so misleading!
Tue Sep 28, 2021, 10:40 PM
Sep 2021

"Nearly 600 UA employees" sounds like a huge number and gives a very different impression than the first sentence of the article. It's almost like the famously conservative Tribune went out of the way to compose the most negatively sensational headline possible.

I don't know if it really was deliberate, but it seems weird to me that the headline makes the situation sound soooo much scarier than it actually is.

riversedge

(70,214 posts)
36. The Hill: United Airlines to lay off nearly 600 workers who refused to get vaccinated
Tue Sep 28, 2021, 11:16 PM
Sep 2021

The workers will get one more chance.



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United Airlines to lay off nearly 600 workers who refused to get vaccinated

https://thehill.com/policy/transportation/aviation/574381-united-airlines-to-lay-off-nearly-600-workers-who-refused-to



By Karl Evers-Hillstrom - 09/28/21 06:53 PM EDT



United Airlines will begin the process of laying off roughly 600 employees — less than 1 percent of its workforce — who refused to comply with the company's COVID-19 vaccine mandate, it announced Tuesday.

The Chicago-based airline said that 99 percent of its workforce provided proof of vaccination prior to a Monday deadline. United will move to fire those who did not seek an exemption or provide proof of vaccination, but the carrier will give them one more chance to comply with the mandate during the separation process.

.............................

The percentage of vaccinated United employees excludes the less than 3 percent of the company’s 67,000 employees who sought a religious or medical exemption. Six United employees filed a lawsuit against the airline last week over its policy to put exempt employees on unpaid leave..............................


..................United is the only one of the top four U.S. airlines to fire employees who do not comply with a vaccine requirement. Delta Air Lines will enact a $200 monthly surcharge on unvaccinated employees, while American Airlines and Southwest Airlines are only encouraging employees to get the shot.

mopinko

(70,100 posts)
45. they've only had about a hundred years of practice.
Wed Sep 29, 2021, 09:29 AM
Sep 2021

there actually was a time when it was a great paper and the editorials stayed on their own page.
that was a long time ago, tho.

soldierant

(6,857 posts)
37. I already would not go to a restaurant now because the
Tue Sep 28, 2021, 11:25 PM
Sep 2021

horror stories about cleanliness of the kitchen and the prsonal hygiene and behavior of staff are bad enough without a pamdemic. Release hundreds of unvaccinated people (who all have attitudes) into the job market, and they might go work at a restaurant? Are you kidding me?

I'll brave restaurants outside of a pandemic because I'm smart enough to be nice to people who serve me. But not now. Hell, no.

Prof. Toru Tanaka

(1,959 posts)
43. Went to a Jersey Mike's recently.
Wed Sep 29, 2021, 02:47 AM
Sep 2021

Not one employee behind the counter w/ a mask.

I think I'll be making my own hoagies at home for a while.

turbinetree

(24,695 posts)
38. Dumb shits.....they more than likely vaccinations shots when they were younger,
Tue Sep 28, 2021, 11:33 PM
Sep 2021

so that they could grow up and be dumb shits today.....as a former United employee...I have no fucking sympathy for them....

DonCoquixote

(13,616 posts)
39. i hate to say it , but
Tue Sep 28, 2021, 11:42 PM
Sep 2021

i am not going to be in a steel tube for 2 hours with people who do not get vacced

yaesu

(8,020 posts)
46. Maybe they can work at my local pizza shop who keeps running a help wanted ad with the following
Wed Sep 29, 2021, 10:17 AM
Sep 2021

"We do NOT require a Covid Vaccination- in fact we will not even ask you if you are."

this saddens me as I have been getting their pizza for decades but I live in a 99.9% repuke area.

Bengus81

(6,931 posts)
47. In the words of Saint Ronnie...Well,they didn't get fired,they QUIT.
Wed Sep 29, 2021, 11:32 AM
Sep 2021

That statement sure worked for Republicans concerning those air traffic controllers,it can work here too.

LiberalLovinLug

(14,173 posts)
48. I know less than 3% applied but what the hell is a "religious exemption"?
Wed Sep 29, 2021, 01:56 PM
Sep 2021

Is it as simple as just declaring you don't "believe" in vaccines because you hear voices in your head from God who tells you the vaccine is devil juice?

Or do you have to belong to a big established church for a long time, and have to submit letters from your pastor, and passages from the Bible to defend your decision?


BTW, either one is is just as ridiculous.

IronLionZion

(45,438 posts)
49. Airline passengers have been violent maskholes this past year
Wed Sep 29, 2021, 02:13 PM
Sep 2021

so fewer people want to work as flight attendants.

What a hot mess

CountAllVotes

(20,869 posts)
50. UA needs to rot in hell
Wed Sep 29, 2021, 02:16 PM
Sep 2021

They treat disabled passengers like crap!

The last time I dared to travel I've had to use them to get to SFO and wow, what a freakin' nightmare it was.

Nothing would make me happier to see these freaks go belly up and the sooner the better!



Dukkha

(7,341 posts)
52. Their jobs were clearly not important
Wed Sep 29, 2021, 03:55 PM
Sep 2021

They gave them up in a heartbeat for a very trivial reason. Their loss and the airline is better off losing this baggage.

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