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Omaha Steve

(99,609 posts)
Wed Sep 29, 2021, 08:42 AM Sep 2021

Manchin and Sinema meet with Biden over reconciliation bill concerns

Source: CBS NEWS

BY KATHRYN WATSON

Moderate Democrats Senator Joe Manchin and Senator Kyrsten Sinema held separate meetings with President Biden at the White House Tuesday, as the White House and most Democrats push an up-to $3.5 trillion bill to expand the social safety net.


Mr. Biden's first-term domestic agenda is packed into the massive bill, which has no Republican support and will have to be passed by using a budgetary process called reconciliation. This will enable it to pass with 50 votes, rather than the 60 votes that are normally required to pass Senate measures. Its fate is largely in the hands of the two moderates, Sinema and Manchin, because the Senate is evenly divided, 50-50.

Both senators have said the bill is too large and must be trimmed to win their support.

Another factor: House progressives are demanding that the Senate vote on the larger bill first, or they will not support the smaller $1.2 trillion infrastructure bill that passed with bipartisan support in the Senate.

Read more: https://www.cbsnews.com/news/biden-manchin-sinema-democrats-budget-reconciliation-bill/

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Manchin and Sinema meet with Biden over reconciliation bill concerns (Original Post) Omaha Steve Sep 2021 OP
That second paragraph succinctly sums up the situation FBaggins Sep 2021 #1
Sine a will get a vote of," No Confidence," True Blue American Sep 2021 #2
They're Lying WHITT Sep 2021 #3
You are making too much sense. Reality is so boring compared to boosting ratings. Tommymac Sep 2021 #5
Sorry Biden should have went into Arizona & West Virginia... Historic NY Sep 2021 #4
Moderate Democrats Senator? AZLD4Candidate Sep 2021 #6
Did Biden remember remind them about revenge...? Grins Sep 2021 #7
👍 Joinfortmill Sep 2021 #8

FBaggins

(26,731 posts)
1. That second paragraph succinctly sums up the situation
Wed Sep 29, 2021, 09:02 AM
Sep 2021

The thing is... that paragraph isn't "news". It could have been written eight months ago.

Which suggests that their buy-in should have been solicited from the beginning.

True Blue American

(17,984 posts)
2. Sine a will get a vote of," No Confidence,"
Wed Sep 29, 2021, 09:12 AM
Sep 2021

From the Arizona Democratic Party, if she votes no on either bill. Her ratings are already under water. Kelly has an 88% approval rating.

West Virginia voters want these bills by a large margin.


Jon Tester said this is a foolish Dance.I go. Jon one better. “ You dance with the one that brung you!”

WHITT

(2,868 posts)
3. They're Lying
Wed Sep 29, 2021, 09:45 AM
Sep 2021

They're not objecting to the size of the bill, as they go on to complain it will add too much to the debt and be inflationary, but it's fully paid for, therefore adds nothing to the debt and cannot be inflationary.

To the contrary, the anti-worker, anti-consumer corporate Repub bill that they both wholeheartedly support, does add hundreds of billions to the federal debt, and could potentially be inflationary, not to mention being a horrible bill.

No, they oppose the increase in taxes on the Rich & Corporate, which has massive support by the American people, including huge majorities in both WV and AZ.

Why are they kowtowing to their corporate donors, instead of listening to the huge majorities of their own constituents they claim to represent?

Tommymac

(7,263 posts)
5. You are making too much sense. Reality is so boring compared to boosting ratings.
Wed Sep 29, 2021, 12:36 PM
Sep 2021

Also, the fact that the corporate donors control all the MSM one way or another has a bit to do with it.

Historic NY

(37,449 posts)
4. Sorry Biden should have went into Arizona & West Virginia...
Wed Sep 29, 2021, 09:53 AM
Sep 2021

and campaigned for his bill. That would have been away to get them in the fold, by talking to the people. In my state they are already running ads against Maloney calling it the Nancy Pelosi Tax Bill. Poor job in getting the message out.

AZLD4Candidate

(5,688 posts)
6. Moderate Democrats Senator?
Wed Sep 29, 2021, 12:40 PM
Sep 2021

The first three words are terrible.

Manchin and Sinema are NOT moderate at all.

Democrats? It's "DemocratIC." When will this inane Lee Atwater nonsense die?

Democrats? That's an adjective defining the party of two senators. You cannot pluralize an adjective.

It should read "Two gadfly Democratic senators."

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