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Calista241

(5,586 posts)
Wed Oct 13, 2021, 06:00 PM Oct 2021

Katie Couric Exposes RBG After 'Protecting' Her from Scolding National Anthem Kneelers Like Colin Ka

Source: Mediaite

Ruth Bader Ginsburg is often recognized and remembered as a symbol for progressive change, but the late Supreme Court justice’s opinion of kneeling during the national anthem was socially conservative.

According to Katie Couric, she eliminated some of Ginsburg’s quotes regarding the national anthem during a 2016 interview, to “protect” the Supreme Court justice. While she protected Ginsburg in 2016, Couric decided to publish the controversial comments in her memoir more than five years after the interview. The Daily Mail was first to obtain an excerpt from the upcoming book.

In 2016, Couric omitted Ginsburg’s claim that not standing for the anthem depicts a “contempt for a government that has made it possible for their parents and grandparents to live a decent life … Which they probably could not have lived in the places they came from … as they became older, they realize that this was youthful folly. And that’s why education is important,” Ginsburg told Couric. “I think it’s a terrible thing to do, but I wouldn’t lock a person up for doing it. I would point out how ridiculous it seems to me to do such an act.”

Couric’s memoir Going There is set to be released on Oct. 26. In the book, Couric states Ginsburg, who was 83 at the time, was “elderly and probably didn’t fully understand the question,” pertaining to the NFL and players choosing to kneel.

Read more: https://www.mediaite.com/sports/katie-couric-exposes-rbg-after-protecting-her-from-scolding-national-anthem-kneelers-like-colin-kaepernick/

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Katie Couric Exposes RBG After 'Protecting' Her from Scolding National Anthem Kneelers Like Colin Ka (Original Post) Calista241 Oct 2021 OP
I wonder about Katie Couric. Just saying. Joinfortmill Oct 2021 #1
What do you wonder? brooklynite Oct 2021 #15
There's something wrong about editing out key elements of an interview Champp Oct 2021 #29
I don't think we should idolize anyone, including RBG. If her ego hadn't been so large pnwmom Oct 2021 #20
Yes, I believe you are right. Sadly, it wasn't her finest moment. CTyankee Oct 2021 #37
This message was self-deleted by its author Joinfortmill Oct 2021 #2
Mediaite is now considered LBN? PSPS Oct 2021 #3
It's Mediaite regurgitating UK Daily Mail which also isn't exactly LBN. . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Oct 2021 #6
not LBN. its a press release for her book n t msongs Oct 2021 #4
So she's "going there" milestogo Oct 2021 #5
She's really going after some beloved figures tulipsandroses Oct 2021 #7
I haven't liked Couric for awhile. And definitely won't.. ananda Oct 2021 #8
'Protecting' an interview subject. I'll bet she wonders why she's not taken as a serious journalist. Gidney N Cloyd Oct 2021 #9
Post removed Post removed Oct 2021 #10
you nail it Skittles Oct 2021 #14
What would make her a "saint"? BradAllison Oct 2021 #18
Post removed Post removed Oct 2021 #19
RGB as a "white privileged" selfish woman who you feel didn't know her place? Devil Child Oct 2021 #34
RBG did not need protecting Freethinker65 Oct 2021 #11
Well said. SharonClark Oct 2021 #21
Yep. (n/t) OldBaldy1701E Oct 2021 #27
I wonder if RBG was aware that Kaepernick's parents and grandparents are white? Autumn Oct 2021 #12
How would that change things? GulfCoast66 Oct 2021 #23
My post was in response to what RBG supposedly said Autumn Oct 2021 #30
(Sorry) who the fuck cares? We have bigger problems! (Sorry) CapnSteve Oct 2021 #13
Justice Ginsburg wasn't perfect. madaboutharry Oct 2021 #16
What's the big deal? BradAllison Oct 2021 #17
Wow!! That great intellectual powerhouse Katie Couric was protecting weak little RGB!!! NNadir Oct 2021 #22
I agree with RBG. When did liberals begin to participate in groupthink? GulfCoast66 Oct 2021 #24
If Kaepernick had only connected his kneeling to prayer for the disproportionate killing summer_in_TX Oct 2021 #25
I totally agree with you. 👍 nt Raine Oct 2021 #26
then... myohmy2 Oct 2021 #28
RBG is and was one of the most interesting and intelligent people Orinocojhon Oct 2021 #31
She was Democrat but you wouldn't know it from her SCOTUS record. That's what we need ... marble falls Oct 2021 #32
RGB doesn't need Katie Couric "protecting" anyone from RGB's liberty to have an independent thought Devil Child Oct 2021 #33
Katie so shady (Nt) FreepFryer Oct 2021 #35
This message was self-deleted by its author ExTex Oct 2021 #36

brooklynite

(94,571 posts)
15. What do you wonder?
Wed Oct 13, 2021, 08:14 PM
Oct 2021

Should her reputation be protected after death? Is there something wrong with the truth?

Champp

(2,114 posts)
29. There's something wrong about editing out key elements of an interview
Thu Oct 14, 2021, 08:06 AM
Oct 2021

to "protect" anyone, whether the journalist is assuming that person is an honest, thoughtful, honorable citizen Democrat, or a lie-gulping, anti-democracy, fascist-ass-kissing Republican reprobate.

It's not Couric's job to "protect" her subject. It's to make plain what they say and do.

If she'd broadcast the quotes back when the were spoken, the ensuing "controversy" (if one did arise) would have rapidly clarified the matter. To wit, if Ginsburg did not fully grasp the question, as Couric speculates, then the "controversy" would have given her an opportunity to clarify.

Thus endeth today's first rant. Thank you very much

pnwmom

(108,978 posts)
20. I don't think we should idolize anyone, including RBG. If her ego hadn't been so large
Wed Oct 13, 2021, 10:39 PM
Oct 2021

she would have retired during Obama's first term, and made it possible for him to appoint a young replacement.

But she refused, saying he wouldn't be able to find anyone better than she was -- which wasn't the point. She had already had cancer twice by then, including a very serious pancreatic cancer. We would have been better off if she'd retired when she could have been replaced by Obama.

But she thought she was essential. And now look where we are. Instead of having her, we got Amy Coney Barrett.

CTyankee

(63,912 posts)
37. Yes, I believe you are right. Sadly, it wasn't her finest moment.
Sun Oct 17, 2021, 06:16 PM
Oct 2021

We don't know if the drugs she was taking had befogged her brain. I wish someone could have talked her out of it and retired.

Response to Calista241 (Original post)

tulipsandroses

(5,124 posts)
7. She's really going after some beloved figures
Wed Oct 13, 2021, 06:14 PM
Oct 2021

Recently had a really stupid statement about Denzel Washington, as if she was trying to make him sound hostile. Now RBG. Roll the tape so we can hear it ourselves . Until then, not really buying it.

ananda

(28,860 posts)
8. I haven't liked Couric for awhile. And definitely won't..
Wed Oct 13, 2021, 06:32 PM
Oct 2021

be talking about or buying her stupid, irrelevant book.

Response to Calista241 (Original post)

BradAllison

(1,879 posts)
18. What would make her a "saint"?
Wed Oct 13, 2021, 10:06 PM
Oct 2021

Saying she always wanted someone to put a knee on her back while they kneel for the anthem?

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Devil Child

(2,728 posts)
34. RGB as a "white privileged" selfish woman who you feel didn't know her place?
Thu Oct 14, 2021, 11:01 AM
Oct 2021

As far as your last sentence, I can only hope!

ps. RGB is a Jewish American woman, hard to argue privilege when she has intersectionality of some of the most historically oppressed groups. Jewish women.

Freethinker65

(10,021 posts)
11. RBG did not need protecting
Wed Oct 13, 2021, 07:15 PM
Oct 2021

Katie and her publisher are just working hard to increase sales of a book. Katie could have followed up if she didn't fully understand RBG's answer rather than speculate a few years later to sell a fucking book after RBG was no longer alive to expand upon her answer to a throw away question. If Katie were a real journalist, she would have had a major scoop if RBG went full on anti-kneeling as protest.

GulfCoast66

(11,949 posts)
23. How would that change things?
Wed Oct 13, 2021, 11:41 PM
Oct 2021

Sure as shit RBG’s family had a hard time before coming to America. And she was old enough to remember those times. I’m not at all surprised she personally took umbrage to people kneeling during the anthem. But also defended their right to do so.

Not all liberals thought it was cool. Not by a long shot. But all defended their right to do so.

Autumn

(45,084 posts)
30. My post was in response to what RBG supposedly said
Thu Oct 14, 2021, 10:36 AM
Oct 2021

"not standing for the anthem depicts a “contempt for a government that has made it possible for their parents and grandparents to live a decent life … Which they probably could not have lived in the places they came from …"

What I bolded I disagree with 100%. That may be her history but not his.

I'm not talking about where she came from, I'm talking about where he came from. His family had privilege that others don't. He did not kneel to show contempt, he knelt for the injustice of what government agencies and our justice system has allowed.

Don't like my opinion? Scroll on by

madaboutharry

(40,211 posts)
16. Justice Ginsburg wasn't perfect.
Wed Oct 13, 2021, 08:21 PM
Oct 2021

She wasn’t a saint. She was a great Justice who sought to protect the American people from hard right extremists on the court who think the Constitution should be interpreted as if it was 1790.
She sometimes thought out loud, just like the rest of us.

Katie Couric was wrong to “protect” her in the first place. RBG was tough, she didn’t need protection.

BradAllison

(1,879 posts)
17. What's the big deal?
Wed Oct 13, 2021, 10:04 PM
Oct 2021

She said she wouldn't "lock a person up" over it, which is the only point that really needs to be made here.

NNadir

(33,518 posts)
22. Wow!! That great intellectual powerhouse Katie Couric was protecting weak little RGB!!!
Wed Oct 13, 2021, 11:08 PM
Oct 2021

Who knew?

Rather who cares?

GulfCoast66

(11,949 posts)
24. I agree with RBG. When did liberals begin to participate in groupthink?
Wed Oct 13, 2021, 11:53 PM
Oct 2021

You think all liberals agree with kneeling during the anthem? No way. We all agreed they had the right to do so and understood the narrative they were attempting to send.

But almost almost of my liberals friends disagreed with it and would never do it ourselves. Especially when being paid millions a year.

We are not iconoclastic. But 3 years ago I would not have dared post anything on DU saying I disagree with kneeling during the anthem. It would have caused negative consequences. Kneeling does not help our cause in the long run. Others may disagree. But those who want to certainly have the right and should be protected.

summer_in_TX

(2,738 posts)
25. If Kaepernick had only connected his kneeling to prayer for the disproportionate killing
Thu Oct 14, 2021, 12:42 AM
Oct 2021

of blacks to end and justice to be done, I think many in the religious community might have said yes, let's kneel in prayer for an end to the killing and for justice. After all, faith communities have a long tradition of kneeling in prayer – and prayer can certainly be protest. He might still be employed by the NFL too.

I always saw his kneeling in protest as a form of prayer for the world to be a better place for all.

myohmy2

(3,163 posts)
28. then...
Thu Oct 14, 2021, 07:50 AM
Oct 2021

...it should be on tape...

...I would like to see that tape before I got too excited...

...it doesn't sound right to me...

 

Orinocojhon

(7 posts)
31. RBG is and was one of the most interesting and intelligent people
Thu Oct 14, 2021, 10:38 AM
Oct 2021

in the world. Her frank honesty, courage in the face of loss of family, and in the face of cancer remain admirable. She was a class act and was a REAL Liberal. Obviously she retained some of the libertarian philosophy that the Democratic party used to have but seems to be losing recently. I'm sad for that. Her independence of thought was was amazing. Her ability to find bridges with people that she disagreed with (Scalia was her dear friend) shows just how amazing and strong a person she was. Nowadays, most people left and right seem to only be REAL friends with people they agree/vote with.
She was a national treasure.
A true AMERICAN INTELLECTUAL.
I miss her.

marble falls

(57,083 posts)
32. She was Democrat but you wouldn't know it from her SCOTUS record. That's what we need ...
Thu Oct 14, 2021, 10:49 AM
Oct 2021

... from all Justices: we should not be able to suss political bias from their rulings.

They're to rule on issues of law based on the Constitution, not furthering political agenda.

 

Devil Child

(2,728 posts)
33. RGB doesn't need Katie Couric "protecting" anyone from RGB's liberty to have an independent thought
Thu Oct 14, 2021, 10:53 AM
Oct 2021

Beyond insulting to Ruth Bader Ginsburg's memory to pull this after she has passed.

Quite simply, so fucking what if she didn't want to engage in the social exercise of kneeling for her reasons which are hers. And double fuck you to Couric for playing the age card, if she was "too old" to understand the question which she fully did, then the implication is she was "too old" to serve as a justice. Goddamn this ground my gears....

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