Pelosi tells Democratic caucus: Don't "embarrass" the President

[brooklynite]

Source: CNN

House Speaker Nancy Pelosi told her members: “Don’t embarrass” the President by voting down the infrastructure bill as he travels overseas, according to a source in the room.

She also said she would put the infrastructure bill on the floor today and hold the vote open to get the bill through.

When Rep. Jan Schakowsky, a Democrat from Illinois, asked about key moderates Sens. Joe Manchin and Kyrsten Sinema, she said take the President at his word he will get the larger bill through.

A member of Congress in the room, representing a Midwestern district, tells CNN the President explicitly made the point that the Democratic majorities hinge on what happens over the next week. It was not about the race in Virginia, which some members have dismissed the importance of, but rather the midterm elections.

Read more: https://www.cnn.com/politics/live-news/infrastructure-spending-bill-biden-10-28-21/

[PoliticAverse]

1. Now we see who blinks. n/t

[orangecrush]

2. Then put the stuff back in

That was taken out to please the oligarchs.

[Budi]

4. Of course. AFTER this starting point is passed & signed.

Piss on the we want it all, what about meeel crowd.'

It is a starting point for the remaining issues to follow as soon as this is pased & signed.

[PoliticAverse]

6. Starting point on the BBB bill or an ending of it? n/t

[JohnSJ]

7. Well said

[Budi]

8. That's not even worth an answer. Stop it.

[JohnSJ]

10. Maybe I am wrong Budi, but I think he meant if nothing passes it is the end, and I think

that is a valid assessment, because the odds of the republicans controlling both houses will increase, and that would be the end

[Budi]

12. Well yes, according to the " Nothing is Better Than Something"!! irrationalles

Imagine selling that mantra to anyone but your own base.

[PoliticAverse]

15. The point is the only reason the BBB is still being discussed is because the infrastructure bill

is being held hostage. Manchin indicated he didn't think there was a reason to pass the BBB bill this year (did you miss his recent "how about zero?). Sinema would probably be happy if the BBB bill went away. Once the hostage is released there is no guarantee the BBB bill will be passed anytime soon.

[bluewater]

43. +1000

[turbinetree]

24. What is striking and not being talked about very much is that after all the gerrymandering is done

and having a possible slim majority vanish, the fascist republicans can just install the lackeys without having a vote....but they will have a show case voting to make it look good.....after all they are threatening election people and trying to place lackeys in office..... and now this "deal" was agreed upon in March at 3.5 trillion...I am with Lawrence O'Donnell and what he said paraphrasing is just amazing....it was agreed upon and now this....

[PoliticAverse]

48. Democrats are unable to pass their voting reform bill because of the filibuster...

and certain Democratic Senators being unwilling to eliminate it (even for the single voting reform bill).

[turbinetree]

49. Agreed .......................

[orangecrush]

29. Uh huh

Dental and eye coverage for seniors on medicare is the "meeee first" crowd?

[Budi]

31. Well, then screw the rest because we don't get ours rfn?

Medicare coverage is an issue all its own & really deserves more debate & focus to improve it completely.
Including the matter of solvency & keeping it out of potential privitazation.

It's far more than just a quick fix.

[orangecrush]

33. No it's not more

Than a quick fix.

It would be FIXED if it were INCLUDED IN THE BILL AND PASSED.

[Budi]

35. Nope. It would be quick fixed. Like in Populism

[orangecrush]

45. Like in

Democracy.

Passing of a bill is not "populism".

[Autumn]

3. If you are afraid the President will be embarrassed don't hold the vote till important things are

put back in that M&S insisted be taken out. Easy fix.

[JohnSJ]

9. Which part of a 50-50 Senate don't you understand? Manchin and Sinema are not going to

Change. You want that to happen, elect more progressives in 2022

Having a speaker McCarthy and majority leader McConnell will not help anyone

[quakerboy]

50. So you are ok with S&M holding the presidents agenda hostage

With all apparent intent to kill the hostage rather than releasing it.

Good to know.

[JohnSJ]

51. Where did I say that? What I said was that Manchin and Sinema are not going to change, and

the way around that is winning at least 52 seats in the Senate, and maintaining the majority in the House

[quakerboy]

52. And yet the most realistic way for that to happen

is that S&M need to change. Because the longer they block the Democratic agenda from the inside, the more votes we loose all over the country.

[George II]

18. Nancy Pelosi is Speaker of the House, not Majority Leader of the Senate. She was speaking to her....

...caucus, some members of which are on record as being "willing to tank" the bill.

[Autumn]

21. If the Progressives are ready to tank the bill "due to the lack of text" I'ma give them a pass.

I don't sign documents that are filled out later and don't trust people who tell me to sign now and we will fill in the details later. Mamma raised no fool. YMOV.

[Demsrule86]

36. I do not give them a pass period...anymore than I would give Sinema or Manchin a pass if the

refused to vote for either bill.

[Autumn]

39. What is worse is that Sinema and Manchin get a pass for removing from the bill, Biden's agenda

the very things that are needed for Americans and the future of our world. I consider that to be a shit sandwich of epic proportions courtesy of the two of them. That is unforgivable, along with all the bullshit excuses.

[Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin]

46. Nothing like a little whataboutism

[emulatorloo]

41. As you well know, the original Social Security has evolved quite a bit since it was passed by FDR

My momma didn’t raise a fool either. Not a fan of the “All or Nothing” approach but YMMV.

Hope you are feeling well, Autumn. My doc just switched me to a different medication and it seems to be helping the autoimmune disorder.

[Budi]

5. I love it when he leans into the camera & makes it clear to everyone.

NO one should be voting against this bill.

[jalan48]

11. The sound of air slowly exiting the balloon.

[droidamus2]

14. I'm sorry

I hear that Pelosi wants to vote on the 'bipartisan/corporate' bill first. I have no doubt if they do this the social infrastructure bill is dead. I don't trust any assurances coming from Manchin or Sinema they will say what ever it takes to pass their bill and they will torpedo the social bill. If the social bill is no put up first real progressives should vote against it.

[The Mouth]

16. I will contribute to the primary candidates against whoever votes 'no' on this

Anyone voting 'no' needs a MAGA tattoo and to be kicked out of the party (as we will be utterly f**ked in 2022 if it doesn't pass).

Time to draw a line. Posturing and pandering is fine, but there needs to be consequences, and severe ones for not following the party line when it is all on the line.

I'd like to see a BIG pool of potential money, and support established to primary any D 'no' votes; no exception, no exemptions, no exclusions, vote 'No' and President Obama, Clinton and whoever else will be brining themselves and millions to your primary opponent next year.

[Budi]

32. Absolutely. Am also ready to take names of those NO votes. Standing on spite over progress.

There should be NO ONE abstaining, not present, or voting No on this bill.

[Demsrule86]

37. These are safe Democratic seats...so it would be fine.

[The Mouth]

40. exactly.

But safe or not, it's time to hold that sword of Damocles over some heads. Yeah, I mean Manchin is, actually, kind of a miracle, a Democrat in that seat, but the folks in the House? We need a bit of stick here, I think(I'm sure there are carrots aplenty for those waffling).

[OneCrazyDiamond]

17. If Speaker Pelosi holds a vote, and they vote it down,

That is not on President Biden.

[George II]

19. Or on Sinema or Manchin.

[OneCrazyDiamond]

20. They are not voting in the House.

Senate Majority Leader Sumer, and President Biden will be the ones to deal with those 2.

I think Speaker Pelosi's remarks are targeted to a small group in The House.

[George II]

23. Exactly, and I suspect both Speaker Pelosi and President Biden are losing patience....

All I've seen for the last several weeks is "Manchin this" or "Sinema that". Apparently they are good with this now and they're not the ones who are threatening to vote against it.

If it gets voted down in the House it will not be because of President Biden or Senators Manchin or Sinema.

[OneCrazyDiamond]

25. I would like to apologize.

I re-read your post and I seem to have misinterpreted your message.

I am sincerely sorry.

[George II]

26. No problem, I didn't see anything bad about your response. All good, and thanks!

[DownriverDem]

22. Pelosi's right

We don't need Dems playing into the repubs hands.

[gab13by13]

27. Everyone here trusts Speaker Pelosi, right?

She knows more than we do, right?

[myohmy2]

28. hold...

...your vest close to your cards and keep your powder dry...good things come to those who wait...

...seems we've heard that before...for 50 years

...if anyone is embarrassing the President, it's manchin and sinema...

...Progressives are just trying to be good Democrats and provide working solutions to the many desperate needs of our people...

...it's a sad day indeed when being a good Democrat is embarrassing...

...Progressives, hang in there...

...

[orangecrush]

30. Yup

[Budi]

34. Sure. Just a week ago one addressed her supporters saying,

"Nothing is better than something". When asked if she would vote against the bill.

However her statement to the press was a little less absolute. So which is it then?

So don't come with that "..trying to be good Democrats and provide working solutions to the many desperate needs of our people..."

Because it is flat out not the truth of this bill.

[Demsrule86]

38. There comes a time when you fought the good fight and undoubtedly made the bill better...when

you have done all you can...and won't get more...that is when you fall in step and demonstrate party loyalty. We need to pass these bills period.

[myohmy2]

42. some think...

...inaction will cost us the Congress and Presidency...I firmly believe a weak bill will do that in spades and sow irreparable divisions within the Party making 2022/2024 impossible...

...the case should be made that we're not going to get this bill done right now because of the intransigence of manchin and sinema...the Party should then unify on expedited 1/6 investigations to be able to attack and discredit pukes, their Party, their leaders in preparation for 2022/2024...

...with a strong reminder that this was a bad 50/50 Congress and that our legislation and goals were made impossible by conservatives, big money interests and opposing pukes, the voters will understand...

...we'll convince the American worker that if he/she ever wants to see this much needed legislation again, they'll have it guaranteed by supporting us with a bigger majority in Congress not by electing billionaire-sucking pukes...

...I heard tonight on the news that family leave was out of the bill...bad, very bad

...we're all in this together...I'm willing to give up my Medicare, vision, dental and hearing (which I truly need) if we don't get meaningful family leave or any other major provision...

...Progressives are not the bad guys here...we're the good guys...

...hang in there...

[BradAllison]

44. Some people here are not progressive at all

They love the gutted, toothless "kick the can down the abyss" bill West Virginia Joe, the Arizona Rodeo Clown, and their Boss Mitch are "fine with". They don't want Biden's original BBB plan at all. Never did. They'll never admit it here.

It's sad. They can take their veiled shots and sleep well at night. They are obvious if you read here enough.

[redstateblues]

47. If Congress can't pass something say good bye to the House and Senate

and probably the White House as well. We are supposed to be the party that can govern. All this infighting does not bear that out.

[flamingdem]

53. This!