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BainsBane

(53,038 posts)
Sat Oct 27, 2012, 09:06 PM Oct 2012

Obama clings to slim lead in Virginia, according to poll

Source: Washington Post

President Obama is clinging to a slender four-point lead over Republican Mitt Romney in Virginia as both sides ramp up already aggressive campaigns in the crucial battleground state, according to a new Washington Post poll.

Obama outpolled Romney, 51 to 47 percent, among likely Virginia voters, although he lost the clearer 52-to-44 percent advantage he held in mid-September.

Unlike in national polls, Obama still has an edge when Virginia voters are asked who better understands their financial problems, and he has not fallen behind a surging Romney on the question of who would better handle the national economy. Nor has Obama lost significant ground among self-identified independents in Virginia, as he has nationally. . .

Perhaps the poll’s most striking insight concerns the many voters the two campaigns have contacted in Virginia this fall. A staggering 44 percent of likely voters polled said they had been contacted by the Obama campaign; 41 percent said the same of Romney’s. More than one in four of had heard from both campaigns.



Read more: http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/decision2012/2012/10/27/6ce69246-2057-11e2-9cd5-b55c38388962_story.html



Romney cannot win the election if the President's lead holds in Ohio and Virginia.

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Obama clings to slim lead in Virginia, according to poll (Original Post) BainsBane Oct 2012 OP
Since when is a 4 point lead slender? It's not like he's clinging either because his numbers are craigmatic Oct 2012 #1
Well, you didn't get the memo? When Myth's +3 he's ahead but when Obama +7 it's a small lead or tie Justice4All1 Oct 2012 #7
I think that was the same memo that said davidpdx Oct 2012 #21
agree BainsBane Oct 2012 #8
exactly....Obama +4 in a state like VA (and over 50% to) is impressive Hawaii Hiker Oct 2012 #10
"slim lead" or "essentially tied" the MSM refuses to say WE ARE GONNA WIN THIS!!! winstars Oct 2012 #2
How do you break a lead when your opponent is over 50? Justice4All1 Oct 2012 #3
Well at least they didn't call it Thrill Oct 2012 #4
Virginia can end the entire thing early on. Come on Virginia! David Zephyr Oct 2012 #5
We're working on it... ohheckyeah Oct 2012 #20
Yeah, but I keep hoping Sandy will hit farther north davidpdx Oct 2012 #22
I think it will be okay. ohheckyeah Oct 2012 #23
Thanks for that davidpdx Oct 2012 #24
I lived in northern Virginia and ohheckyeah Oct 2012 #25
I love the snow storms davidpdx Oct 2012 #29
Four points is slim? TheCowsCameHome Oct 2012 #6
If we win in Virginia chuckstevens Oct 2012 #9
We are winning Ohio BainsBane Oct 2012 #12
Are you kidding? Have you seen all the polls for VA these past few months? We will win VA Justice4All1 Oct 2012 #15
KNR.. Thanks BainsBane! I'll take that healthy lead! Cha Oct 2012 #11
Amoungst landline phone users ffr Oct 2012 #13
which would men it understates the President's lead BainsBane Oct 2012 #14
Yes. LisaL Oct 2012 #16
A four point lead in a state with a 44 year history of going red is not "slim." obxhead Oct 2012 #17
Gotta agree, 4 points is not slim joefree1 Oct 2012 #18
Virginia Slims? TahitiNut Oct 2012 #19
poll margin double standard pisses me off 0rganism Oct 2012 #26
It's the post, what do you expect? Ash_F Oct 2012 #27
it's not just the post, its EVERY major media outlet in the country 0rganism Oct 2012 #31
M$M clings to notion that Romney might win. n/t Mister Ed Oct 2012 #28
Of course, Fox News has a poll with Romney ahead Si MC Oct 2012 #30
 

craigmatic

(4,510 posts)
1. Since when is a 4 point lead slender? It's not like he's clinging either because his numbers are
Sat Oct 27, 2012, 09:11 PM
Oct 2012

going up.

Justice4All1

(119 posts)
7. Well, you didn't get the memo? When Myth's +3 he's ahead but when Obama +7 it's a small lead or tie
Sat Oct 27, 2012, 09:14 PM
Oct 2012

Just remember that from now on.
Obama went down 1 point from last month when he polled 52-44

davidpdx

(22,000 posts)
21. I think that was the same memo that said
Sun Oct 28, 2012, 12:36 AM
Oct 2012

A black man couldn't win a southern state. We sure did fool them didn't we.

BainsBane

(53,038 posts)
8. agree
Sat Oct 27, 2012, 09:15 PM
Oct 2012

but I couldn't put the headline I would have chosen because of the rules in this forum.
This is fantastic news!

Hawaii Hiker

(3,166 posts)
10. exactly....Obama +4 in a state like VA (and over 50% to) is impressive
Sat Oct 27, 2012, 09:19 PM
Oct 2012

If Obama was leading NY by +4 THAT would be slender (he's leading by 29% in NY by the way)

Obama 51-47% in Virginia at this late stage is damn impressive..

winstars

(4,220 posts)
2. "slim lead" or "essentially tied" the MSM refuses to say WE ARE GONNA WIN THIS!!!
Sat Oct 27, 2012, 09:12 PM
Oct 2012

The Washington Post, CNN et al can't bring themselves to give up this frigging horse race thing. Its getting funny for me although more and more exasperating each day.

Justice4All1

(119 posts)
3. How do you break a lead when your opponent is over 50?
Sat Oct 27, 2012, 09:12 PM
Oct 2012

And worse your opponent is more trusted on Middle Class and better for jobs & the economy.
That's RMoney's problem in VA, OH, WI & NV, why he'll never win those states but Obama can still convince Fl how bad Myth would be for them & the US.

David Zephyr

(22,785 posts)
5. Virginia can end the entire thing early on. Come on Virginia!
Sat Oct 27, 2012, 09:13 PM
Oct 2012

Ohio is ours. Virginia would put our President over the top.

ohheckyeah

(9,314 posts)
20. We're working on it...
Sat Oct 27, 2012, 11:54 PM
Oct 2012

we don't have early voting except in very specific cases but we'll work to get out the vote....Sandy or no Sandy.

davidpdx

(22,000 posts)
22. Yeah, but I keep hoping Sandy will hit farther north
Sun Oct 28, 2012, 12:38 AM
Oct 2012

It looks like the bottom part could hit NoVa. While I sure don't want anyone to be in danger, I worry about the swing states having good weather. NH might really be in trouble.

ohheckyeah

(9,314 posts)
23. I think it will be okay.
Sun Oct 28, 2012, 01:13 AM
Oct 2012

The worst will probably be the middle of this coming week, well before the election.

davidpdx

(22,000 posts)
24. Thanks for that
Sun Oct 28, 2012, 02:33 AM
Oct 2012

I'll be watching closely from Korea as I usually do. We get our share of typhoons here so I have a little bit of an idea what they are like. We don't get them near as bad as the ones that hit the Southern and East coast of the US though. I grew up in Oregon so I hadn't been through one until I came here.

ohheckyeah

(9,314 posts)
25. I lived in northern Virginia and
Sun Oct 28, 2012, 02:40 AM
Oct 2012

we had some horrendous snow storms....we were pretty hardy. Just dug our cars out and went about our business. I live in rural VA now in the mountains and we have to be prepared for stuff like this. The last storm that hit here we went out that night in the 4 wheel drive truck just to see how much damage there was. We're kind of used to it.

I used to live in Florida, too and went through a number of hurricanes. I'll take a hurricane over a tornado any day. The worst hurricanes are the ones that spawn tornadoes. Those are a freaking nightmare.

davidpdx

(22,000 posts)
29. I love the snow storms
Sun Oct 28, 2012, 07:09 AM
Oct 2012

In Portland we rarely got much snow, but my first year in college we got a real dozy of a storm in the late afternoon. Two people went out front of our dorm and started a snowball fight and a little while later there were about 60 of us. The buses came right down the street in front of the dorm, so every time one would come people would yell "bus" and we'd each have a couple snowballs to pummel the poor bus. They must have really hated us.

 

chuckstevens

(1,201 posts)
9. If we win in Virginia
Sat Oct 27, 2012, 09:17 PM
Oct 2012

I still say, if we win in Virgina, we can lose Florida and Ohio and still win the election. GOTV!!!!!!!

BainsBane

(53,038 posts)
12. We are winning Ohio
Sat Oct 27, 2012, 09:21 PM
Oct 2012

So if we win Virginia, Romney cannot become President. America will be a much better place as a result.

Justice4All1

(119 posts)
15. Are you kidding? Have you seen all the polls for VA these past few months? We will win VA
Sat Oct 27, 2012, 09:27 PM
Oct 2012

The president has led in each poll for the past few months.
Except for a few gravis, Ras polls the past 2 weeks, we have been winning VA & will win it
Even Gravis is giving VA to Obama again.

If only we could drop Cantor too....oh please, God drop Cantor the jerk.

ffr

(22,671 posts)
13. Amoungst landline phone users
Sat Oct 27, 2012, 09:22 PM
Oct 2012

Unfortunately, people who don't own a landline, like myself, never get polled, and therefore the poll is under represented by young people.

 

obxhead

(8,434 posts)
17. A four point lead in a state with a 44 year history of going red is not "slim."
Sat Oct 27, 2012, 09:39 PM
Oct 2012

LOTS of Dem signs on lawns here in the red part of VA that had McCain signs up 4 years ago. I think VA will go bluer than it did 4 years ago.

0rganism

(23,960 posts)
26. poll margin double standard pisses me off
Sun Oct 28, 2012, 02:46 AM
Oct 2012

For Obama, +4 in VA is "clinging to a slim lead"
If Romney were +4 in VA, it'd be an "immense blowout mandate" or some other silly shit.

When Obama's up by 2, he's "within the margin of error."
When Romney's up by 2, he's "opened up a strong lead."

I'm gettin' mighty sick of this.

0rganism

(23,960 posts)
31. it's not just the post, its EVERY major media outlet in the country
Sun Oct 28, 2012, 03:26 PM
Oct 2012

what am i going to do, avoid all mass media until Nov. 7? what if there's an election dispute that drags out for another month?

 

Si MC

(55 posts)
30. Of course, Fox News has a poll with Romney ahead
Sun Oct 28, 2012, 08:14 AM
Oct 2012

by 2 points! Sure! Fox News, fair and balanced, my rear end!

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