Almost one in three of Republicans say violence may be necessary to 'save' US

[Judi Lynn]

Source: Guardian

Troubling statistics show the post-election rancor that led to the US Capitol attack on 6 January is still very much in place

Adam Gabbatt
@adamgabbatt
Mon 1 Nov 2021 09.14 EDT

Almost a third of Republicans believe violence may be necessary to “save” the US, according to a new poll. Researchers at the Public Religion Research Institute, a nonprofit, found that 30% of Republicans agreed with the statement “Because things have gotten so far off track, true American patriots may have to resort to violence in order to save our country”.

Among Americans who believe the 2020 election was “stolen” from Donald Trump, which it was not, 39% believe violence may be required.

The troubling statistics show the post-election rancour that led to the violent insurrection at the US Capitol on 6 January is still very much in place.

Republicans are most likely to believe “true American patriots may have to resort to violence”, PRRI found, with just 11% of Democrats and 17% of independents agreeing with the statement. Among all Americans, 18% agreed.

Read more: https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2021/nov/01/republicans-violence-save-us-poll

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[Cryptoad]

1. That's what they saying in 1860,,,,

[packman]

2. "true American patriots may have to resort to violence"

I consider myself a true American patriot- hmm- and I am beginning to believe each day with each drum beat of those assholes, from Neo-Nazis to school board nuts to anti-vaxxeers, that perhaps violence is necessary to "save" the US. My patience and good humor is eroding bit by bit each day with their stupidity and ignorance. Wrapping themselves in an American flag, calling themselves "patriots" , and advocating violence is really starting to piss me off. Fascist and thugs each and every one of them.

[TheRealNorth]

3. Fake displays of patriotism is the last refuge of thieves and scoundrels....

As well as fascists and traitors.

[unblock]

7. one of my all-time favorite quotes:

in response to samuel johnson's famous quote that "patriotism is the last refuge of the scoundrel", ambrose bierce said:

"In Dr. Johnson's famous dictionary patriotism is defined as the last resort of a scoundrel. With all due respect to an enlightened but inferior lexicographer I beg to submit that it is the first."

[Eliot Rosewater]

37. When GOP officials refuse to certify the elections they lose, the violence will be inevitable.

[IronLionZion]

4. Violence against who to save it from who?

Or maybe they just want an excuse to beat up and kill people they don't like.

Because I know they're not talking about Russian interference in elections and relentless cyber attacks.

[kysrsoze]

5. MoMore necessary to get their jollies than anything else. Meatheads.

[Lonestarblue]

6. Polls can distort meaning in so many ways because of how questions are constructed.

In this instance, what does it mean to “save” the country? Is it white supremacy? Is it theocracy? Is it forcing women to stay at home and become baby machines? Is it forcing LGBTQ back underground and taking away their rights? Is if ensuring that white people always have first preference for college admissions and jobs, relegating minorities to menial positions?

And what do they mean by violence? Is it killing all protesters who object to unfair elections? Police brutality? Assassinating elected officials who are liberal? What violence do they support? And who commits this violence? Do responders think anti-government militias like the Proud Boys should simply be authorized to go kill anyone who disagrees with them?

The questions that never get asked relate to the right wing’s vision of the country. I suspect it is white privilege,,white supremacy but forcing them to acknowledge that racism is what drives them might be good.

[Gidney N Cloyd]

16. +1

[abqtommy]

8. I'm not bothered by this statistic at all. According to the best information I

could find quickly, ReTHUG voters make up 40% of the electorate here in the U.S.*
One out of three of that is 33.3% which leaves us with 12% to 13% of reTHUG
voters that advocate violence. I think we can handle them.

Disclaimer: I'm sure that the end justifies the means in many cases.

* https://www.marketwatch.com/story/the-number-of-americans-identifying-as-republican-is-the-lowest-its-been-in-a-decade-gallup-poll-11617812129

[Pachamama]

9. How many people and percentage of population does it take to start a civil war, slaughter civilians?

Let us know please so we know when to be worried…

[abqtommy]

13. Well, it takes a conspiracy of many persons to start a civil war but it only takes

one psychopath to "slaughter civilians". I'm not worried yet and I leave it to you to
decide when to be worried. Nice use of snark, by the way. I like that.

[bucolic_frolic]

10. Be careful what you wish for

it might apply to you too.

[Champp]

11. Save us from what? Honesty, decency, integrity and loyalty?

Those are all the things the Republicons and their Russian komrades hate, as evidenced by their violent assault over over 140 Capitol Police, and the murders they committed in attacking the USA because no honest American would swallow the Republican Big Lie.

Ptoooey.

[Mysterian]

12. Bring it on, you fascist assholes!

There are enough people willing to fight to save this nation and we will send you home crying to mommy just like the confederate traitors when General Sherman came marching through!

[Gidney N Cloyd]

14. When you word a survey question as a loaded statement like...

...“Because things have gotten so far off track, true American patriots may have to resort to violence in order to save our country,” Y/N? it's going to skew the responses. Polls like don't help keep the temperature down.

[LakeArenal]

15. War mongers have to monger.

If they can’t attack the nonwhite anymore in any part of the world they want, they are willing to make war at home.

Trump thought he had the military in his pocket. He didn’t. So now they have build all these treasonous militias.

I think they fail in the end. Although it would help if all media would report right from wrong once in awhile.

[usaf-vet]

17. To what end. They are sore losers. From top to bottom. Trump to the one in three.

They lost the Civil War. Yet I was told more than once during the four years I was stationed in the South in the mid-1960s.

Told that they didn't lose the war they just lost the battle and would rise to fight again.

This will never get solved until the gene pool no longer exists. Which will probably be never.

[Dan]

18. Did 'they' define

What they are planning to ‘save’?

[EndlessWire]

34. That's what I wonder. Over in another thread, Boebart said

"no time for two and a half months family leave, because we have to save the country." From what? Stuff the Repubs don't want, or don't believe in? Save the country from THEM? Was that an inelegant sarcastic remark to the fact that honest-thinking voters are alarmed at this fascist trend the GOP is taking?

Boy, Trump truly ruined the Repub Party, and made it into his party. I've never seen anything like this.

[SpankMe]

19. Cut the assholes loose

Lets find a way to give them their own country. I'm fed up with this shit.

[PSPS]

20. LOL. A push poll by the religious grifting outfit "Public Religion Research Institute."

[orangecrush]

36. Thank you

[SouthernDem4ever]

21. I guess it's time to declare marshall law on republicans

since they can't peacefully co-exist with anyone but their own crazy asses.

[andym]

22. Some substantial portion of the GOP has been radicalized by Trump

who has taken control of the right-wing propaganda machine. Who could have guessed that an egotistical clown like Trump could be so dangerous, and that he could still lead a fascist revolution to disaster in the USA.

[BidenRocks]

23. These asshats couldn't beat

The Bloods, Crips or MS 13 for control of their Barrio.
We beat the Brits with ambush and sniper tactics.
These lardass 'militias' are big targets.
Now I have your guns and ammo!
Do they really want to do this?
USMC vet. All an 0311.
How fucking stupid do they want to be?

[texasfiddler]

24. Bring it on!!!!

[marble falls]

30. How about we bring it on in state elections so we can get control of state legislatures?

[cntrfthrs]

25. not worried at all..

there's plenty on the Left and Far-Left with weapons and who know how to use them...

[marble falls]

29. Looking to shoot someone?

[homegirl]

26. I have to question

just how concerned I should be. Latest stats reveal the percentage of registered GOP voters has dropped from 29% to 25% and falling. So, we are discussing 30% of 25% of GOP voters. Using my unskilled math that works out to to 7.5% of registered GOP voters.

[jcmaine72]

27. They are terrorists, and large percentages aren't required to terrorize a population.

Just look at the Middle East.

[Shellback Squid]

28. gosh, we might have similar overall numbers, but we are smarter

[truthisfreedom]

31. Lock 'em up!

[vercetti2021]

32. Mean if they wanna shoot

I'll shoot back. If that's what it comes down to

[myohmy2]

33. well...

...it can't be much clearer than this...

...it's hard to have a kumbaya moment with people like that...why do we try?

"Among Americans who believe the 2020 election was “stolen” from Donald Trump, which it was not, 39% believe violence may be required."

...and trump's allowed to casually try again to foment his revolution with his big lies and his 39% all to the detriment of our democracy and country...

...I believe one of the Supremes once said that our Constitution was not a suicide pact...

...could have fooled me...

[orangecrush]

35. Where is the DOJ?