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TexasTowelie

(112,430 posts)
Fri Nov 5, 2021, 07:57 AM Nov 2021

Greg Abbott leads Beto O'Rourke by 9 percentage points in hypothetical matchup, UT/TT Poll finds

Source: Texas Tribune

Gov. Greg Abbott has a comfortable lead over potential Democratic challenger Beto O’Rourke, according to a new poll from the University of Texas at Austin and The Texas Tribune.

The survey of registered voters found Abbott with a 9-percentage-point advantage over O’Rourke, 46% to 37%. Seven percent of respondents picked someone else in the hypothetical matchup, and 10% said they have not thought about it enough to have an opinion.

O’Rourke is increasingly expected to challenge the Republican governor for a third term next year, though he has not made an announcement yet.

Both men have vulnerabilities, according to the survey. Abbott’s approval rating has slightly improved since the last poll in August, but it remains underwater, with 43% of voters approving of the job he is doing and 48% disapproving.

Read more: https://www.texastribune.org/2021/11/05/texas-poll-greg-abbott-beto-orourke/



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Greg Abbott leads Beto O'Rourke by 9 percentage points in hypothetical matchup, UT/TT Poll finds (Original Post) TexasTowelie Nov 2021 OP
Abbott will be tough to beat. He has catered to the right wing. Lonestarblue Nov 2021 #1
"Though if we have another event like last February's weather disaster,.." Escurumbele Nov 2021 #9
I bought a generator and 3, 5 gallon gas cans. imavoter Nov 2021 #54
"You're damn right we're coming for your AR-15." I appreciate candor. That one statement sends Evolve Dammit Nov 2021 #2
And statements like that can lose elections too. oldsoftie Nov 2021 #10
Most folk have guns. Not AR-15's though. I think we can exclude them from the general population Evolve Dammit Nov 2021 #12
The NRA is even out of step with many of its own MEMBERS! oldsoftie Nov 2021 #17
I would hope so. Seems like a fascist organization at this point. Evolve Dammit Nov 2021 #21
publicity Slammer Nov 2021 #49
good question. The "copycat" profile fits in many cases. Psychos study mass killings and modify to Evolve Dammit Nov 2021 #51
I don't know. We still have the largest immigration in the world jimfields33 Nov 2021 #31
And I think they would appreciate feeling safer? Evolve Dammit Nov 2021 #50
It's going to be a long year. Only 11.9 months until election day! Surprised they're already polling George II Nov 2021 #3
Too many stupid people in Texas rickyhall Nov 2021 #4
Lots of stupid people in lots of places. Probatim Nov 2021 #11
That is true PatSeg Nov 2021 #22
And how are things in that center of advanced liberal thought? Paladin Nov 2021 #14
Maybe if Democrats got more organized they'd have a cahnce.... Historic NY Nov 2021 #5
Would this be an accurate or an inaccurate poll? I just don't believe them anymore Raven123 Nov 2021 #6
I hear rumblings from time to time about Matthew McConaughey possibly... SKKY Nov 2021 #7
For Texas, in my mind he absolutely stands a better chance. Beto will have issues with guns JohnSJ Nov 2021 #13
I agree with you. nt oldsoftie Nov 2021 #18
That's two of us JohnSJ Nov 2021 #19
I think you're right PatSeg Nov 2021 #23
From my perspective, almost anyone who can retire Abbott would be an improvement JohnSJ Nov 2021 #24
Yes, I totally agree PatSeg Nov 2021 #28
I agree with you. Elessar Zappa Nov 2021 #32
Nobody even knows if that clown's a democrat jcgoldie Nov 2021 #53
Proof that the citizens of Texas are ignorant and misinformed. Escurumbele Nov 2021 #8
As long DownriverDem Nov 2021 #16
Take it easy Red State Prisoner Nov 2021 #20
Now, now. Don't interrupt the blanket Texas hatred. Paladin Nov 2021 #29
I think DownriverDem Nov 2021 #15
The election isn't going to be today JI7 Nov 2021 #25
Beto will not beat Abbott Lithos Nov 2021 #26
Looks like Texas is a long way from turning blue. CanonRay Nov 2021 #27
Joe Straus hamsterjill Nov 2021 #30
Didn't he start 20 behind Ted Cruz? ColinC Nov 2021 #33
That was before he said this in 2019 Polybius Nov 2021 #37
You would think he would be 50 behind. ColinC Nov 2021 #38
Just wait till the ads come Polybius Nov 2021 #39
Still I imagine he has the best shot ColinC Nov 2021 #40
I'd rather nominate a moderate, like a Manchin type Polybius Nov 2021 #41
I see that working out the same way it did for WV ColinC Nov 2021 #42
Justice was crazy conservative though Polybius Nov 2021 #44
Such as... LiberatedUSA Nov 2021 #45
That's gonna crush him Polybius Nov 2021 #46
The 22 deaths that occurred at the Walmart in El Paso had a tremendous impact on him. nt TexasTowelie Nov 2021 #48
Who does the oil industry prefer? jalan48 Nov 2021 #34
Then run a candidate that will fire up progressives and Hispanics. Jon King Nov 2021 #35
No surprise, Beto is way too liberal for Texas Polybius Nov 2021 #36
Glad I live in California. Magoo48 Nov 2021 #43
The stupid runs deep here in Texas. Demnation Nov 2021 #47
poll's don't mean crap! they got a running list who will talk to them ! monkeyman1 Nov 2021 #52
Secede already. JustADumbFireman Nov 2021 #55
We're talking about a poll result for today for a hypothetical match-up for next year... CBHagman Nov 2021 #56

Lonestarblue

(10,078 posts)
1. Abbott will be tough to beat. He has catered to the right wing.
Fri Nov 5, 2021, 08:06 AM
Nov 2021

Though if we have another event like last February’s weather disaster, with hundreds dying and much of the state without power, his approvals might head south because he has claimed that he has fixed everything needed for the energy facilities. In reality, it’s the major cities like Austin and I assume Dallas and Houston that have been preparing for weather emergencies.

But he threw red meat at the religious right with the abortion and transgender athlete laws. And, of course, the CRT nonsense and parents’/individual rights are an issue here. Book banning and more political interference in education are ahead.

Escurumbele

(3,402 posts)
9. "Though if we have another event like last February's weather disaster,.."
Fri Nov 5, 2021, 09:21 AM
Nov 2021

People do not pay attention, that should have been enough reason to throw him out of office. The level of COVID infections should be another, his war against voting rights...so many reasons but people are so misinformed and ignorant that even if there was another chaos caused by the weather, more people die, and everyone knows Abbot did nothing to prevent it, they will still vote for him.

A republican must have come with the saying "ignorance is bliss", and it is bliss to them, nothing like having the support of the ignorant and the stupid. Who said "the danger to humanity is the ignorant and the stupid"?

imavoter

(646 posts)
54. I bought a generator and 3, 5 gallon gas cans.
Fri Nov 5, 2021, 08:14 PM
Nov 2021

Candles, matches, and lighters,
Batteries. I already have an electric heater if I need it.

They've fixed nothing.

Luckily i have gas, so I can cook and have hot water.
Buying electric water pot and electric griddle in case lose
gas. Buying 5 gallon water bottles now.

I'll never do last February again.

And I can't believe it's fucking come to this.
Fuck them.

But they'll have to pry my Texas from my cold,
dead hands. We'll get there. Just wish sooner than later.

Evolve Dammit

(16,766 posts)
2. "You're damn right we're coming for your AR-15." I appreciate candor. That one statement sends
Fri Nov 5, 2021, 08:10 AM
Nov 2021

chills down MAGATs spines and makes them cling to their Guns and God. Obama was right about that too. We are such a moronic, violent society. The rest of the world must think we have so lost our way and shake their collective heads.
I like Beto. He has intelligence and passion for doing what's right.

oldsoftie

(12,604 posts)
10. And statements like that can lose elections too.
Fri Nov 5, 2021, 09:24 AM
Nov 2021

Its not just "MAGATs" who dont want you "coming" for their guns.
Abbott can be beat but Beto just isnt "the guy" (or it could be a woman)

Evolve Dammit

(16,766 posts)
12. Most folk have guns. Not AR-15's though. I think we can exclude them from the general population
Fri Nov 5, 2021, 09:32 AM
Nov 2021

and high capacity magazines/clips too. Enough mass shootings, enough school shootings where the common denominator is angry usually white men with these type of weapons. This was not a problem in the past like it has been since Columbine and it is not acceptable. Kids should not have to be afraid to go to school. And parents shouldn't have to worry that some deranged violent male is going to take out dozens of lives before law enforcement can dispatch him.
PS. I'm old school. Everyone I knew growing up had guns. TO HUNT WITH (and target shoot). This shit is a modern problem that we didn't have. I still remember when NRA taught hunter safety and was a good organization. That has all changed.

Slammer

(714 posts)
49. publicity
Fri Nov 5, 2021, 07:04 PM
Nov 2021

I'm firmly convinced that mass shootings have come to be a thing because of the fame a person can get from it.

Before the internet, your name would get mentioned on the news a couple of times and get printed in the paper but then it was gone.

But people use the internet to publicize their manifestos and count on social media and the 24 hour news industry to transform themselves from a nobody into a Somebody.

Personally, I think a shooter's name should be withheld from the news and from being published on social media platforms.

Try that for five years.

If it works, we've "solved the problem" and can go back to there just being too many guns out there but without the mass shootings.

If it doesn't work, we haven't lost anything other than the for-profit media having more details to use to lure in an audience.

Evolve Dammit

(16,766 posts)
51. good question. The "copycat" profile fits in many cases. Psychos study mass killings and modify to
Fri Nov 5, 2021, 07:15 PM
Nov 2021

their own twisted desires. I agree the media brings way too much attention to the "shooter" but it is a uniquely American issue. It is very rare elsewhere. It doesn't have to be this way, but we seem unable to deal with it. At all.

jimfields33

(15,962 posts)
31. I don't know. We still have the largest immigration in the world
Fri Nov 5, 2021, 11:43 AM
Nov 2021

Somehow other countries populations want to come to America.

Probatim

(2,542 posts)
11. Lots of stupid people in lots of places.
Fri Nov 5, 2021, 09:28 AM
Nov 2021

Fearful, stupid people - who don't even realize they are voting against their own best interests.

PatSeg

(47,600 posts)
22. That is true
Fri Nov 5, 2021, 10:31 AM
Nov 2021

But it feels like Texas has more than their fair share of them. Florida as well I think. I've lived in both states and I am still amazed that so many people are politically illiterate.

Paladin

(28,273 posts)
14. And how are things in that center of advanced liberal thought?
Fri Nov 5, 2021, 09:36 AM
Nov 2021

DeQueen, Arkansas.

Say hi to Sara Huckabee Sanders, next time she wanders by...







SKKY

(11,822 posts)
7. I hear rumblings from time to time about Matthew McConaughey possibly...
Fri Nov 5, 2021, 09:12 AM
Nov 2021

...running. I can't help but think he would be a better match-up.

JohnSJ

(92,403 posts)
13. For Texas, in my mind he absolutely stands a better chance. Beto will have issues with guns
Fri Nov 5, 2021, 09:35 AM
Nov 2021

among other things with Texans.

That being said, if Beto could motivate the Hispanic vote to come out in large numbers to vote for him, that might change the dynamic, but still I think McConaughey has a better chance against Abbott.

I don't think a lot of people here will appreciate that though


PatSeg

(47,600 posts)
28. Yes, I totally agree
Fri Nov 5, 2021, 11:13 AM
Nov 2021

Get rid of him before he can do even more damage. He seems to be getting worse all the time.

Elessar Zappa

(14,061 posts)
32. I agree with you.
Fri Nov 5, 2021, 12:11 PM
Nov 2021

McConaughey could very well beat Abbot. He might not make a great governor but he’d definitely be better than what Texas has now.

jcgoldie

(11,646 posts)
53. Nobody even knows if that clown's a democrat
Fri Nov 5, 2021, 07:57 PM
Nov 2021

Read the cryptic double speak he spews. no thanks.

Escurumbele

(3,402 posts)
8. Proof that the citizens of Texas are ignorant and misinformed.
Fri Nov 5, 2021, 09:16 AM
Nov 2021

People do not pay attention, republicans are happy to have stupid citizens who will believe anything they post on the internet.

Yessss...lets vote for the guy who is taking my benefits and freedoms away, who cares more about the rich than me and my struggling family...that is the guy I want...

Red State Prisoner

(138 posts)
20. Take it easy
Fri Nov 5, 2021, 10:27 AM
Nov 2021

There are a lot of us down here in the Lone Star State who are not all that ignorant and misinformed. There is an apathetic/wary Hispanic voting block here that simply does not participate. If they did, the state would swing on a dime (if voting trends among Hispanics hold true). With that said, there are ignorant people everywhere.

Paladin

(28,273 posts)
29. Now, now. Don't interrupt the blanket Texas hatred.
Fri Nov 5, 2021, 11:36 AM
Nov 2021

Think how many individuals seem to get so much joy out of it...



JI7

(89,269 posts)
25. The election isn't going to be today
Fri Nov 5, 2021, 10:42 AM
Nov 2021

It will be difficult for any Democrat to win but I think Beto will help in getting more new voters and other things that will help in the future even if we don't win this one.

Lithos

(26,404 posts)
26. Beto will not beat Abbott
Fri Nov 5, 2021, 11:03 AM
Nov 2021

No one will beat Abbott until they can get rid of Abbott's ability to select his voters through Voter suppression. The GOP machine here has done a very effective job at subverting Democracy.

L-

hamsterjill

(15,224 posts)
30. Joe Straus
Fri Nov 5, 2021, 11:37 AM
Nov 2021

The discussions that I'm hearing are that the "sane" Republicans (ha! ha!, yes I realize what I just said) are thinking of running Joe Straus, former Speaker of the Texas House, as an Independent against Abbott.

I would love to see Beto beat Abbott, but I just don't think it's possible in the climate that is Texas.

ColinC

(8,330 posts)
33. Didn't he start 20 behind Ted Cruz?
Fri Nov 5, 2021, 12:13 PM
Nov 2021

Finish within 2? This doesn't seem to be the worst starting point with that considered.

ColinC

(8,330 posts)
38. You would think he would be 50 behind.
Fri Nov 5, 2021, 01:22 PM
Nov 2021

But I think there's something about him that keeps him from falling that far behind

ColinC

(8,330 posts)
40. Still I imagine he has the best shot
Fri Nov 5, 2021, 01:25 PM
Nov 2021

I imagine Texas culture is changing dramatically with the population changes, etc too. But we'll see...

Polybius

(15,481 posts)
41. I'd rather nominate a moderate, like a Manchin type
Fri Nov 5, 2021, 01:28 PM
Nov 2021

Someone like him might not be ideal, but he's 1,000 times better than Abbott.

ColinC

(8,330 posts)
42. I see that working out the same way it did for WV
Fri Nov 5, 2021, 01:34 PM
Nov 2021

...the governor flipped parties. I'd like to think that if we can elect 2 progressive Senators in GA (a state until recently that was more Republican than Texas), we can elect an actual Democrat in Texas.

Polybius

(15,481 posts)
44. Justice was crazy conservative though
Fri Nov 5, 2021, 01:41 PM
Nov 2021

I'd prefer someone who's more to the middle in Texas.

GA is a bit to the left of Texas. Biden won there, and the special elections (January 2021) were at the height of Trump's unpopularity when he was crying about election fraud. 2022 will have nothing like that on the ballot.

We'll see though. A lot of this depends on how popular Biden will be at the time of the election. If he's at 60%, perhaps almost any Democrat can win.

 

LiberatedUSA

(1,666 posts)
45. Such as...
Fri Nov 5, 2021, 01:44 PM
Nov 2021

…his “sell your AR-15 for a price we decide or we will arrest you” “Buyback” Mandate idea for guns?

Polybius

(15,481 posts)
46. That's gonna crush him
Fri Nov 5, 2021, 01:46 PM
Nov 2021

Why does Beto have to be liberal on every single issue? He runs for office in Texas, not Massachusetts.

Jon King

(1,910 posts)
35. Then run a candidate that will fire up progressives and Hispanics.
Fri Nov 5, 2021, 12:50 PM
Nov 2021

Got to be a new face somewhere in Texas democratic world. A candidate who will fire up the young, progressives, all the new people who keep moving to Texas to work in high tech, Hispanics who are swing voters.

Polybius

(15,481 posts)
36. No surprise, Beto is way too liberal for Texas
Fri Nov 5, 2021, 01:13 PM
Nov 2021

It's still quite Red, far more so than Virginia. In order to win, we need to nominate a pro-gun guy, not someone who says "Hell yes we're gonna take your AR-15, your AK-47..."

 

monkeyman1

(5,109 posts)
52. poll's don't mean crap! they got a running list who will talk to them !
Fri Nov 5, 2021, 07:48 PM
Nov 2021

there + or - is total garbage ! by all mean's pay attention to them !

CBHagman

(16,987 posts)
56. We're talking about a poll result for today for a hypothetical match-up for next year...
Sat Nov 6, 2021, 02:38 PM
Nov 2021

...and people are talking as though the election had already taken place! I know it's Texas, but in politics even a few days can be a long time. Our job is to work at it, to think of the long term.

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