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Calista241

(5,586 posts)
Fri Nov 5, 2021, 09:59 AM Nov 2021

Bombshell report shows Colorado Gov. Jared Polis avoided paying taxes

Source: Axios

Colorado's Democratic Gov. Jared Polis is under fire after a new trove of documents revealed he used loopholes to avoid paying federal income taxes for years.

Driving the news: A ProPublica report published Thursday found Polis, a tech entrepreneur and former congressman, used donations and financial arrangements to get out of paying federal income taxes in 2013, 2014 and 2015.

Of note: His wealth reached an estimated $306 million in 2017, and he was ranked the third-wealthiest member of the U.S. House.

From 2010 to 2018, Polis' tax rate was just 8.2% even though his income averaged $1.5 million during that period. The rate is far below the 19% level owed by an average worker, the investigative news outlet wrote.

Read more: https://www.axios.com/local/denver/2021/11/05/propublica-colorado-gov-jared-polis-avoided-paying-taxes

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Bombshell report shows Colorado Gov. Jared Polis avoided paying taxes (Original Post) Calista241 Nov 2021 OP
Imagine if everyone stopped paying taxes. Historic NY Nov 2021 #1
It may come to that soon Ponietz Nov 2021 #19
The question is were they legal loopholes or not? If they were legal, they should be going after JohnSJ Nov 2021 #2
they had to be legal azureblue Nov 2021 #4
This IS the problem. . . h2ebits Nov 2021 #6
It makes no sense to go after people who take advantage of legal loopholes. You need to JohnSJ Nov 2021 #9
Yep! calimary Nov 2021 #16
Unless we disagree with them politically MichMan Nov 2021 #7
Oh jeez... calimary Nov 2021 #17
Then this is no "bombshell report", and you are correct, it is a smear piece JohnSJ Nov 2021 #8
Wasn't TFG seen as a genius for using legal loopholes to pay no taxes for years? Probatim Nov 2021 #28
right elleng Nov 2021 #21
+100 bronxiteforever Nov 2021 #24
8.2% sounds pretty generous compared to many millionaires viva la Nov 2021 #3
Although I don't really believe it. Maybe the $750 tells us just how "un-rich" he is. usaf-vet Nov 2021 #11
We are all richer than Trump because we love... and are loved. viva la Nov 2021 #12
That's clearly the biggest measure of his poverty. n/t Harker Nov 2021 #27
Correct! usaf-vet Nov 2021 #36
My dad actually loaned money to Nelson Rockerfeller The Mouth Nov 2021 #35
Did Rocky pay him back? viva la Nov 2021 #38
Agreed! ProfessorGAC Nov 2021 #37
TRump lied on his taxes azureblue Nov 2021 #30
Meh. He has good accountants, like all wealthy people. Wingus Dingus Nov 2021 #5
If he were a Republican this would make him clever and an astute businessman. Thomas Hurt Nov 2021 #10
Smear job. You think someone like Tucker Carlson or Sean Hannity pays much in taxes. Lonestarblue Nov 2021 #13
RW BS from RW rag theworldatlarge Nov 2021 #14
Big deal. He shouldn't get any push back from the rethugs. BradBo Nov 2021 #15
Typical Jim VandeHei reporting, RW stooge, founder and CEO of Axios and co-founder of Politico. Fla Dem Nov 2021 #18
BOMBSHELL report: Pobeka uses standard deduction to avoid paying taxes. Pobeka Nov 2021 #20
Who cares ibegurpard Nov 2021 #22
"That makes him smart" ...anybody recall someone else saying as much? nt DeeNice Nov 2021 #23
Taking advantage of legal loopholes available to the Uber wealthy? Freethinker65 Nov 2021 #25
Doesn't everyone avoid paying taxes by using "loopholes" or sometimes, deductions? Behind the Aegis Nov 2021 #26
The GOP has no business talking about this. Dawson Leery Nov 2021 #29
When Weehands McNodick boasted about this, wasn't he called a "smart guy"? n/t TygrBright Nov 2021 #31
The media really sucks. JI7 Nov 2021 #32
So what? The problem is the tax CODE that lets this happen and that's what Dems want changed Bengus81 Nov 2021 #33
Are they counting SS/Medicare? nitpicker Nov 2021 #34
So, TFG used lots of loopholes and is still walking free. nt Hotler Nov 2021 #39
We need to have an Alternative Minimum Tax that means something TexasBushwhacker Nov 2021 #40

JohnSJ

(92,409 posts)
2. The question is were they legal loopholes or not? If they were legal, they should be going after
Fri Nov 5, 2021, 10:08 AM
Nov 2021

those who legislated these loopholes


azureblue

(2,151 posts)
4. they had to be legal
Fri Nov 5, 2021, 10:13 AM
Nov 2021

He has accountants doing his taxes, like all rich people do. This is a half ass smear piece - any person with a pile of money, from musicians to surgeons to entrepreneurs, is going to use the tax code to reduce the tax load.

h2ebits

(646 posts)
6. This IS the problem. . .
Fri Nov 5, 2021, 10:21 AM
Nov 2021

Well stated. The tax loopholes for the rich need to be eliminated. We keep talking about the tax rates but there are so many loopholes in the federal tax code for the rich--put in place by the rich--that we could levy a 100% tax rate and they would still pay little to no taxes.

JohnSJ

(92,409 posts)
9. It makes no sense to go after people who take advantage of legal loopholes. You need to
Fri Nov 5, 2021, 10:30 AM
Nov 2021

go after the legislators to change the laws

calimary

(81,500 posts)
17. Oh jeez...
Fri Nov 5, 2021, 12:07 PM
Nov 2021

My first glance at your post, I miss-read “criminals” and thought it was “cannibals”!

Oops!

But, on second thought… the worst cases on that side of the aisle has accused our side of the aisle of killing and eating children. Which takes me directly to - that side of the aisle indulges BIGTIME in projection, actually DOING the awful anti-social and illegal and immoral things they accuse us of doing.

So, seriously, who knows?




(Well, semi-seriously anyway … )

Probatim

(2,542 posts)
28. Wasn't TFG seen as a genius for using legal loopholes to pay no taxes for years?
Fri Nov 5, 2021, 01:07 PM
Nov 2021

This is a non-story.

viva la

(3,318 posts)
3. 8.2% sounds pretty generous compared to many millionaires
Fri Nov 5, 2021, 10:10 AM
Nov 2021

Trump paid $750, remember.

Is there really no way to get the really rich to pay taxes?
If I were that rich, I'd be embarrassed not to pay my fair share.

Then again, that's why I'll never be rich, with an attitude like that.

usaf-vet

(6,209 posts)
11. Although I don't really believe it. Maybe the $750 tells us just how "un-rich" he is.
Fri Nov 5, 2021, 10:34 AM
Nov 2021

The upside is all of us who pay more than $750 can say we are richer than the BIG LIAR.

I needed something to brighten my day!!

viva la

(3,318 posts)
12. We are all richer than Trump because we love... and are loved.
Fri Nov 5, 2021, 11:09 AM
Nov 2021

Okay, okay, I'm feeling sort of mushy today.

The Mouth

(3,164 posts)
35. My dad actually loaned money to Nelson Rockerfeller
Fri Nov 5, 2021, 05:45 PM
Nov 2021

It was a dime, he needed to make a phone call, they were at a conference or such. But he got a kick out of saying he loaned money to a Rockefeller for the rest of his life.

ProfessorGAC

(65,191 posts)
37. Agreed!
Fri Nov 5, 2021, 08:09 PM
Nov 2021

Now, it's true that he's a debacle as a businessman or investor.
And, it's true that had he taken daddy's money from the 70s (8 "loans&quot and 3 more in the 80s, invested it broadly in the S&P, he could have lived like a king, and been worth $250 million BEFORE he got daddy's company.
Then, if he did the same with that money instead of running it into the ditch, he'd have had time to accumulate at least $4 billion for real.
Of course, at no time has the net value of the TO, plus his paltry (by comparison) personal holdings ever approached a billion.
At this point they are at best net $100 million, and likely close to underwater.
I'd still bet $750 in taxes is based on shady accounting and accelerated depreciation, plus the TO paying all personal expenses as business related, so he probably owed more.
But, he wasn't avoiding taxes on millions upon millions of profits. Such profits never existed.

azureblue

(2,151 posts)
30. TRump lied on his taxes
Fri Nov 5, 2021, 01:21 PM
Nov 2021

Apples to Orange He undervalued some property and over valued expenses. Which is why he does not want his taxes released. It's one thing to lie on your taxes and another to take advantage of loopholes.

The problem is that the GOP made those loopholes, some practically crafted of a single person. The tax code, especially for the super rich, needs to be revised.

Lonestarblue

(10,078 posts)
13. Smear job. You think someone like Tucker Carlson or Sean Hannity pays much in taxes.
Fri Nov 5, 2021, 11:13 AM
Nov 2021

Rich people bought loopholes from members of Congress, so it is not illegal to use them. Unethical, yes.

theworldatlarge

(11 posts)
14. RW BS from RW rag
Fri Nov 5, 2021, 11:27 AM
Nov 2021

Loopholes are made for the wealthy to manipulate, after all it's the wealthy people making the rules. So yes blame the rule writers. Is nice to be king

Fla Dem

(23,753 posts)
18. Typical Jim VandeHei reporting, RW stooge, founder and CEO of Axios and co-founder of Politico.
Fri Nov 5, 2021, 12:11 PM
Nov 2021

Did I miss the article that went after RW politicians who didn't pay taxes like, I don't know, maybe Trump?

Not saying I support what appears to be a outright manipulation of Gov Polis' income and tax reporting, but just want equal spotlights shown on RW pols.

Anyone look into Vandehei's taxes?

Pobeka

(4,999 posts)
20. BOMBSHELL report: Pobeka uses standard deduction to avoid paying taxes.
Fri Nov 5, 2021, 12:16 PM
Nov 2021

BOMBSHELL report: Rain falls down.

Geeze, what a disingenuous smear piece.

Freethinker65

(10,055 posts)
25. Taking advantage of legal loopholes available to the Uber wealthy?
Fri Nov 5, 2021, 12:45 PM
Nov 2021

Trump and the GOP (and quite a few wealthy Democrats) would call that being smart. If the law is in your favor, why not exploit it to your advantage as much as possible.

Change the fucking tax laws.

Dawson Leery

(19,348 posts)
29. The GOP has no business talking about this.
Fri Nov 5, 2021, 01:16 PM
Nov 2021

GOP tax loopholes are why he paid so little. With that said, he paid far more than Trump and Bezos.

Bengus81

(6,932 posts)
33. So what? The problem is the tax CODE that lets this happen and that's what Dems want changed
Fri Nov 5, 2021, 04:42 PM
Nov 2021

Hell...I doubt Buffett paid much either over the last decade and he's said as much and said he thinks it's wrong.

nitpicker

(7,153 posts)
34. Are they counting SS/Medicare?
Fri Nov 5, 2021, 05:36 PM
Nov 2021

That's 7.65% off a paycheck, but then it gets taxed again.

There is a limit of 147K to be taxed this year.

So one would expect a slump in tax rates after one gets past 147K.

TexasBushwhacker

(20,215 posts)
40. We need to have an Alternative Minimum Tax that means something
Sat Nov 6, 2021, 04:06 PM
Nov 2021

and it should include an AMT for Social Security and Medicare.

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