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mahatmakanejeeves

(57,504 posts)
Tue Nov 9, 2021, 09:45 AM Nov 2021

Producer prices rise 8.6%, matching September record high

Source: Associated Press, via the Washington Post

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Producer prices rise 8.6%, matching September record high

By Paul Wiseman  AP
Today at 8:40 a.m. EST

WASHINGTON -- Inflation at the wholesale level rose 8.6% last month from a year earlier, matching September's record annual gain and offering more evidence that inflationary pressures are not yet easing.

The Labor Department reported Tuesday that its producer price index -- which measures inflation before it hits consumers -- rose 0.6% last month from September. Excluding volatile food and energy prices, wholesale inflation was up 0.4% in October from September and 6.8% from a year ago.

More than 60% of the September-October increase in overall producer prices was caused by a 1.2% increase in the price of wholesale goods as opposed to services.

Mostly dormant for decades, inflation has returned to the United States this year. The economy's strong rebound from the 2020 coronavirus caught many businesses by surprise. Their scramble to meet unexpectedly strong demand has created shortages of labor, raw materials and goods and snarled traffic at ports and freight yards. The result has been higher prices, and the supply squeeze is expected to last at least well into 2022.

On Wednesday, the Labor Department will release its consumer price index for last month. According to a survey of economists by FactSet, it is expected to show that consumer prices rose 0.5% from September and 5.8% from a year earlier -- beating September's 5.4% year-over-year gain, the fastest since 2008.

Read more: https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/producer-prices-rise-86percent-matching-september-record-high/2021/11/09/9b0ce0e0-4162-11ec-9404-50a28a88b9cd_story.html



He means at an annual rate, of course; year over year, not for the month of September. From the source:

PPI for final demand advances 0.6% in October; goods rise 1.2%; services increase 0.2%

The Producer Price Index for final demand increased 0.6 percent in October, as prices for final demand goods rose 1.2 percent and the index for final demand services moved up 0.2 percent. The final demand index rose 8.6 percent for the 12 months ended in October.

https://www.bls.gov/news.release/ppi.nr0.htm
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Producer prices rise 8.6%, matching September record high (Original Post) mahatmakanejeeves Nov 2021 OP
So what are Biden and the Fed going to do about this? Calista241 Nov 2021 #1
The TV commercials write themselves. mahatmakanejeeves Nov 2021 #4
Don't even need commercials MichMan Nov 2021 #20
Federal taxes stifle inflation HariSeldon Nov 2021 #5
I don't really think the rich care if a gallon of milk costs $5 today. Calista241 Nov 2021 #7
What can Biden do? Elessar Zappa Nov 2021 #11
A better question is what Republicans intend on doing anything if at all about it? tenderfoot Nov 2021 #19
According to some it is only transitory and actually is a good sign for the economy MichMan Nov 2021 #2
And those here that are saying durablend Nov 2021 #3
The idiots downplaying this, or rationalizing it The Mouth Nov 2021 #8
It is a big deal but Elessar Zappa Nov 2021 #12
Look at gas prices and Biden's poll numbers. Every time gas goes up a couple cents doc03 Nov 2021 #6
We need to stop burning carbon. OneCrazyDiamond Nov 2021 #9
We need to elect more Democrats The Mouth Nov 2021 #13
If electing democrats requires cheap legacy energy, OneCrazyDiamond Nov 2021 #14
Good luck with that The Mouth Nov 2021 #15
Got it. OneCrazyDiamond Nov 2021 #16
Well, the climate *should* come first The Mouth Nov 2021 #17
I think it is the way we win. OneCrazyDiamond Nov 2021 #18
I think with inflation what it is now, we lose The Mouth Nov 2021 #21
The recent line I have heard is madville Nov 2021 #10
"The economy's strong rebound from the 2020 coronavirus caught many businesses by surprise." BS rockfordfile Nov 2021 #22

Calista241

(5,586 posts)
1. So what are Biden and the Fed going to do about this?
Tue Nov 9, 2021, 09:58 AM
Nov 2021

Cause if they just go on doing nothing, we're going to be routed out of Congress next year.

When Manchin says "we need to look at inflation and how it affects our economy" this is what he means. If anyone is looking for ammunition to kill the BBB, this this report screaming "inflation" for several months in a row is all they need.

mahatmakanejeeves

(57,504 posts)
4. The TV commercials write themselves.
Tue Nov 9, 2021, 10:36 AM
Nov 2021

Ominous minor piano chords. Grainy footage with streaks as the old film passes through the projector. The Voice of Doom narrating.

MichMan

(11,939 posts)
20. Don't even need commercials
Tue Nov 9, 2021, 05:00 PM
Nov 2021

People see it for themselves every single day

People buying gas, groceries or heating their homes don't need a TV commercial to tell them they have less disposable income then they did before.

HariSeldon

(455 posts)
5. Federal taxes stifle inflation
Tue Nov 9, 2021, 10:46 AM
Nov 2021

Tax (preferably the rich) and the inflation will go away. Federal taxes that are not matched with spending increases eliminate money from the economy and make money more valuable, countering inflationary pressures. If the rich really hate inflation, they'll "put their money where their mouth is" and pay the taxes. And, at least from my view as one of them, the non-rich won't get too bent out of shape over taxes on the rich, even if they don't "fund" spending.

Calista241

(5,586 posts)
7. I don't really think the rich care if a gallon of milk costs $5 today.
Tue Nov 9, 2021, 10:50 AM
Nov 2021

And how long they could tolerate inflation if an open question, but it's for sure longer than the 1 year until November 2022.

tenderfoot

(8,437 posts)
19. A better question is what Republicans intend on doing anything if at all about it?
Tue Nov 9, 2021, 04:24 PM
Nov 2021

You're concerned that this will cost Biden, so tell us why the gop will get support as result.

MichMan

(11,939 posts)
2. According to some it is only transitory and actually is a good sign for the economy
Tue Nov 9, 2021, 10:19 AM
Nov 2021

Not sure many voters are seeing it that way however.

The Mouth

(3,150 posts)
8. The idiots downplaying this, or rationalizing it
Tue Nov 9, 2021, 12:26 PM
Nov 2021

will be more responsible for Trump 2024 than any Republican, Russian, or Proud Boy

Anyone who doesn't think inflation is a killer is an idiot, and a callous one at that.

doc03

(35,349 posts)
6. Look at gas prices and Biden's poll numbers. Every time gas goes up a couple cents
Tue Nov 9, 2021, 10:50 AM
Nov 2021

his polls go lower. US I bonds that are based on inflation are paying 7.12% on bonds purchased
from Nov 1, 21 to May 1, 2022. That is the second highest rate they have ever paid. Inflation killed
Jimmie Carter's presidency.

OneCrazyDiamond

(2,032 posts)
9. We need to stop burning carbon.
Tue Nov 9, 2021, 12:49 PM
Nov 2021

High legacy energy prices are a key to driving that change. The alternative makes covid look tame.

The Mouth

(3,150 posts)
13. We need to elect more Democrats
Tue Nov 9, 2021, 01:48 PM
Nov 2021

high gas, energy, and consumer prices are going to make that damned difficult.

We can't do jack about climate change if the Republicans get pack in power, and $4 a gallon gas is the BEST way to do that.

OneCrazyDiamond

(2,032 posts)
14. If electing democrats requires cheap legacy energy,
Tue Nov 9, 2021, 02:01 PM
Nov 2021

then we rule over the extinction of the planet. I think it better to make green energy the cheapest, not poison fuel.

The Mouth

(3,150 posts)
15. Good luck with that
Tue Nov 9, 2021, 02:49 PM
Nov 2021

Gas over $3 = Trump 2024.
Inflation over 4% = Trump 2024 with Repub supermajorities.

Americans need gasoline and need it affordable.

Inflation kills the party in power.

Facts; all the data about climate change, green energy, renewables doesn't mean ANYTHING if the republicans get back in. People can prattle about renewables or caterwaul about climate change all they want, but without keeping the white house it's just flapping lips and masturbating on the keyboard.

NOTHING matters if we don't win. We won't win if inflation and gas prices in particular don't come down.

OneCrazyDiamond

(2,032 posts)
16. Got it.
Tue Nov 9, 2021, 03:06 PM
Nov 2021

Americans need gasoline and need it affordable. Without that we don't win the Whitehouse in 3 years, and the climate should come secondary that. I disagree, but am but it doesn't matter.

Cheers.

OneCrazyDiamond

(2,032 posts)
18. I think it is the way we win.
Tue Nov 9, 2021, 04:22 PM
Nov 2021

The Green New Deal, and the economy it brings should keep us in charge for a generation. We just have have the courage to follow President Biden's lead. I see two Senators in our way (the GQP are more of a drag then a road block).

The Mouth

(3,150 posts)
21. I think with inflation what it is now, we lose
Tue Nov 9, 2021, 05:20 PM
Nov 2021

and the Republicans, with control of both houses and the presidency, decide how to actually SPEN D the money, and it ain't going to be on mitigating climate change, or social justice, or any actual infrastructure they can't milk for every cent.

madville

(7,412 posts)
10. The recent line I have heard is
Tue Nov 9, 2021, 12:59 PM
Nov 2021

“inflation is good for the economy long term”

There is some truth to that, but rapid inflation in the short term gets the party in power fired quickly, and unfortunately in that respect, Democrats are currently in charge.

rockfordfile

(8,704 posts)
22. "The economy's strong rebound from the 2020 coronavirus caught many businesses by surprise." BS
Tue Nov 9, 2021, 06:02 PM
Nov 2021

I wouldn't trust anything coming out of their mouths. They're just un-American pos. They lost the election and their un-American pos lost.

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