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BumRushDaShow

(129,640 posts)
Wed Nov 10, 2021, 07:52 AM Nov 2021

A draft points the way to a possible agreement in Glasgow.

Source: New York Times

The United Nations climate agency on Wednesday released a draft of an accord that urges countries to “revisit and strengthen” in the next year their plans for cutting planet-warming greenhouse gas emissions.The document marks an initial agreement among some 200 nations that will be used as a template to strike a deal as the two-week global climate summit in Glasgow nears its end Friday.In addition to calling on countries to set more aggressive goals for cutting emissions, it urges nations to “to accelerate the phasing out” of coal and to stop subsidizing other oil and gas.

It also asks them to set policies to stop adding greenhouse gases “by or around mid-century” to help keep global warming at relatively safe levels. Still, a lack of firm deadlines and enforcement mechanisms in the document pointed to the hurdles ahead as negotiators try to reach a consensus at the summit known as COP26, where a primary goal is to agree on stronger action to keep the average global temperature rise to 1.5 degrees Celsius (2.7 degrees Fahrenheit), compared to preindustrial levels. Beyond that threshold, scientists say, the likelihood significantly increases of deadly heat waves, droughts, wildfires, floods and species extinction.

The planet has already warmed by 1.1 degrees Celsius.David Waskow at the World Resources Institute, a Washington think tank, said that the draft lacks a “clear sense” that limiting temperature rise to 1.5 degrees is a global target, and that the language urging countries to toughen their emissions goals is vague and nonbinding. Still, he called it a positive step that is “very much in line” with the commitments that vulnerable nations have been seeking from heavily polluting countries. The United States under President Biden has pledged to cut emissions 50 to 52 percent below 2005 levels by the end of this decade.

China, the world’s largest climate polluter, has said its emissions will peak before 2030 and Russia has made a vague pledge to stop adding greenhouse gases to the atmosphere by 2060 — but analysts say the goals of both countries are insufficient for getting the planet on a 1.5-degree trajectory. On Tuesday, United Nations researchers released a report that found that under countries’ current pledges to reduce emissions, the Earth is on track to warm about 2.5 degrees Celsius (4.5 degrees Fahrenheit), a full degree beyond the goal outlined in the draft.

Read more: https://www.nytimes.com/live/2021/11/10/world/cop26-glasgow-climate-summit/a-draft-points-the-way-to-a-possible-agreement-in-glasgow

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A draft points the way to a possible agreement in Glasgow. (Original Post) BumRushDaShow Nov 2021 OP
If you believe China's statement I've got some land to sell you oldsoftie Nov 2021 #1
The "problem" with nuclear BumRushDaShow Nov 2021 #2
Well, there's talk that China may back off aggressive economic growth Hortensis Nov 2021 #3

oldsoftie

(12,625 posts)
1. If you believe China's statement I've got some land to sell you
Wed Nov 10, 2021, 08:09 AM
Nov 2021

There's no focus from anyone on nuclear power & without that these goals arent going to happen. Unless there are some great things that havent been invented yet; which could definitely happen

BumRushDaShow

(129,640 posts)
2. The "problem" with nuclear
Wed Nov 10, 2021, 08:28 AM
Nov 2021

is waste fuel storage, dealing with facility hardening against natural catastrophic events like magnitude 8.0 or greater earthquakes (and any tsunamis in the aftermath of that), Cat 5-level hurricanes or Typhoons, or EF5 tornadoes, and even coming up with some alternative nuclear-based heat-generating fuel (because that's all the nuclear process does, whether fission or fusion - heats up vats of water to make steam to turn a turbine to generate electricity), so you don't have a nightmare scenario like what happened with Fukushima Daiichi.

I know since Fukushima is no longer actively "in the news", then the mind-numbing after-effects of it, that are still going on, seem to have been assumed to have disappeared.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
3. Well, there's talk that China may back off aggressive economic growth
Wed Nov 10, 2021, 09:37 AM
Nov 2021

somewhat, though. China's always interesting, and definitely tehse days. Xi Jingping, assuming he remains in power, wants to reinforce the communist party's control and go after business classes that've exploded in power, and speculation I read was that changes could give up as much as a couple points in GDP. He supposedly wants to focus his regime on making China "strong," which would presumably include internal as well as hegemonic growth.

In any case, a strong and wealthy central government is in an enviable position to make things happen, and quickly, including implementation of those potentially great things you mention.

And then there's the current energy crisis and amped up coal burning to keep people from freezing this winter. China's ahead of most with nuclear, and reportedly was already expanding some. Wouldn't be surprising if this winter's energy crisis, and increased smog, put the pedal down on that.

All a way of saying I don't actually DISbelieve they'll meet that moderate goal.

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