Federal grand jury indicts former Trump adviser Steve Bannon for contempt of Congress
Source: CNN
A federal grand jury has returned an indictment against former Trump adviser Steve Bannon for contempt of Congress, the Justice Department announced Friday.
Attorney General Merrick Garland has been under tremendous political pressure to indict Bannon since the House referred the Trump ally to the Justice Department for contempt on October 21.
Without an indictment, critics have said, there's doubt over how much power the House January 6 committee has to compel cooperation from former White House and Trump administration officials. Friday, former White House chief of staff Mark Meadows failed to appear for a deposition, sources familiar with the investigation told CNN, setting up a potential showdown that could lead to the panel beginning a criminal referral process against him.
And last week, former Trump Justice Department official Jeffrey Clark, who had been subpoenaed, appeared before the committee for more than an hour but declined to answer questions. The House January 6 committee subpoenaed documents and testimony from Bannon in early October.
Read more: https://www.cnn.com/2021/11/12/politics/steve-bannon-indicted/index.html
Breaking...details to follow
George II
(67,782 posts)lapucelle
(18,350 posts)sheshe2
(83,926 posts)Lasher
(27,640 posts)INdemo
(6,994 posts)Arrest that Fascist SOB. Watch out though Feds, he might be trying to leave the country for Russia
calimary
(81,507 posts)Time to face some music, Steve-o.
George II
(67,782 posts)sheshe2
(83,926 posts)https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frank_Pentangeli
George II
(67,782 posts)sheshe2
(83,926 posts)Or perhaps junior after consuming a few liters of 'coke'.
oldsoftie
(12,614 posts)ShazzieB
(16,539 posts)I must be the only person on the planet who hasn't seen any of the Godfather movies (although I did read the original novel, back in the 70s), so I was lost.
sheshe2
(83,926 posts)I saw them but no way would I have remembered the name.
whathehell
(29,094 posts)to do that..I could be wrong, of course.
mrsadm
(1,198 posts)Will he be put in a jail cell? Or be on house arrest? Or anything?
Thanks
Etherealoc1
(256 posts)Alexander Of Assyria
(7,839 posts)lagomorph777
(30,613 posts)Bernardo de La Paz
(49,045 posts)... due to fears of armed resistance.
Whiskeytide
(4,463 posts)Chinese boats. I suspect Bannon is quite the cowardly lamb when off-line.
Beastly Boy
(9,460 posts)They will have to find a different target now.
George II
(67,782 posts)I wonder if we'll see anyone who bashed him retract their comments?
sheshe2
(83,926 posts)lapucelle
(18,350 posts)It's better to do it right than to do it fast.
sheshe2
(83,926 posts)TheRickles
(2,083 posts)Maraya1969
(22,504 posts)getting very angry at President Obama a couple times also - that doesn't mean that I wasn't a big supporter of him and very glad he was my president .
So here is one person who was pissed and now I'm not. I'm not taking anything back
George II
(67,782 posts)Legal documents take time to prepare, and this had to go to a Grand Jury.
Grand Juries customarily sit twice a month, i.e., every 15-16 days.
Garland did not delay things one bit. I'm disappointed with those who bashed Garland for no reason.
onenote
(42,768 posts)Sometimes willful ignorance. That's worse than bashing him for no reason, imo.
Maraya1969
(22,504 posts)You could have helped by putting out an OP and explaining this to everyone in the begining.
George II
(67,782 posts)Wish I'd jumped on it immediately, but they were there in a New York Minute.
Beastly Boy
(9,460 posts)Cha
(297,705 posts)that, George!
old guy
(3,283 posts)Gore1FL
(21,152 posts)Beastly Boy
(9,460 posts)He will be found in contempt any minute now, and Garland is still twiddling his thumbs and sabotaging the efforts to indict him!
Cha
(297,705 posts)NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)There will still be those who won't be satisfied until he tweets out hourly updates of what he's up to... and posts "selfie" images showing how hard he's working.
This is too important to rush. This must be done carefully and with deliberate attention to detail. Nothing should be left to chance. No mistakes!
TeamProg
(6,251 posts)A LOT of smart left wingers were bashing Garland for good reason.
Let us all see if the DOJ goes after TFG.
Bannon is what, 1 of 26 people subpoenaed who haven't shown up?
Yes, it's progress.
George II
(67,782 posts)....at least 15-16 days.
People should do some research on how these things proceed - this was VERY fast, and no doubt others will be just as timely.
TeamProg
(6,251 posts)- recommended viewing by the way - that he expected an indictment of Bannon within nine days after he didn't responded to the subpeona.
He used to work for the DOJ in the D.C. office.
I'd say he knows a thing or two.
George II
(67,782 posts)Even so, he said nine days, this was 17 days. I won't quibble over about a week.
AG Garland sure wasn't sitting on his hands about this, and he certainly didn't deserve all the trash that was thrown at him.
TeamProg
(6,251 posts)the "memo" he sent to school boards about the violence and threats at school board meetings?
I did, Garland was weak, he didn't fight back at the many non-truths that the GOPsters were spitting out.
Garland just sat there taking all that BS as if it were true, not correcting, not verbally disagreeing with all-out lies.
It was embarrassing. Seriously.
Indicting Bannon is the bare minimum expected of him.
Where are the charges vs TFG?
onenote
(42,768 posts)And how many of the other subpoenaed witnesses have had Congress refer a contempt charge to the DOJ?
TeamProg
(6,251 posts)This Bannon / Select Committee stuff is still new.
Where is the progress against DJT?
Obstruction
Conspiracy
Hatch Act
Attempt to committ Election Fraud and the conspiracy involved there
Tax evasion
OMG, there is so much more.
Where are the indictments?
hamsterjill
(15,224 posts)And eat crow as I said in many of my posts pushing for some form of punishment for defying a subpoena. Now, lets see what actually happens to Bannon. This is a step in the right direction at least.
No one here was bashing Garland simply to be bashing Garland. We all simply dont want some jerk like Bannon getting away with things that we, ourselves, would be locked up for. He is a traitor and he needs to be held accountable and time is of the essence. We were not alone, either, in that many legal scholars have called for action.
Beastly Boy
(9,460 posts)It is likely that most people (not sure if it was everyone) who bashed Garland simply because they declined to exercise patience in any reasonable manner, not because they had a grudge. A case in instant gratification, not malice. But that was still an insult to Garland's good faith and professionalism, as unintended as it may have been.
hamsterjill
(15,224 posts)Ill have to live with the idea that I insulted Garland. I dont look at it that way, and Im not likely to change my mind set.
I want Bannon behind bars and to be able to feel that he cannot hurt my country further. If that is an insult to someone - anyone - then I can live with that. Again, none of us on DU wanting action were alone in those complaints. Some of the best legal scholars of our time were right there with us, including Norm Eisen.
Thanks for the response, and have yourself a nice weekend.
mcar
(42,376 posts)brooklynite
(94,742 posts)You may now resume your discussion.....
WVreaper
(623 posts)ShazzieB
(16,539 posts)One thing at a time.
lagomorph777
(30,613 posts)Devil Child
(2,728 posts)dchill
(38,545 posts)Slammer
(714 posts)Didn't expect this to actually happen.
Maraya1969
(22,504 posts)I've been humming Santa Claus is coming to town.
leftieNanner
(15,158 posts)And there is a warrant out for his arrest.
Wonder what Mark Meadows thinks of that.
Initech
(100,104 posts)Now let's go after Alex Jones and the big boss! They are all going down!
BumRushDaShow
(129,541 posts)Nov. 12, 2021, 3:58 PM EST
By Pete Williams
Former Trump adviser Steve Bannon was indicted by a federal grand jury Friday, charged with contempt of Congress for refusing to answer questions from the House Committee investigating the Jan. 6 Capitol riot.
The indictment is a first. No one has ever been prosecuted before for contempt of Congress when executive privilege was asserted. The past cases involved defendants whose testimony was sought regarding their government service. Bannon, by contrast, left his White House job in 2017, well before the period of interest to the House committee.
If convicted, Bannon could face up to a year behind bars and a fine of up to $100,000. The fact that the Justice Department was willing to charge him with criminal contempt, despite an assertion of executive privilege, may help persuade other reluctant witnesses to agree to cooperate with the committee's investigation. The committee has subpoenaed 16 former Trump White House officials for testimony, documents or both.
The House voted Oct. 27 to find Bannon in contempt after he declined to provide the Jan. 6 committee with documents and testimony. Committee members cited comments Bannon made on his radio program the day before the riot. "All hell is going to break loose tomorrow," he said on the program. The House panel said the statement suggested that "he had some foreknowledge about extreme events that would occur the next day."
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/justice-department/former-trump-adviser-steve-bannon-indicted-federal-grand-jury-contempt-n1283834
sheshe2
(83,926 posts)BumRushDaShow
(129,541 posts)sheshe2
(83,926 posts)BumRushDaShow
(129,541 posts)Our Health Department retweeted one of the local orgs (established by NIH) promoting outreach and messaging, recently to get kids vaccinated.
Link to tweet
TEXT
@PhillyCEAL
So excited! #VaxUpPhillyKids
Philadelphia Public Health
@PHLPublicHealth
We're so excited that children ages 5-11 can now get vaccinated against COVID-19! The vaccine is available today at 200 W 65th Ave, 19126 from 10AM - 3:30PM. Come as a walk-up or schedule an appt! #VaxUpPhilly
AM: http://ow.ly/sP1Y50GH4hV
PM: http://ow.ly/Bj5250GH4rG
Embedded video
4:45 PM · Nov 9, 2021
Love it!
sheshe2
(83,926 posts)I love her happy dance.
Our wee ones, all but one (2 yr.) have appointments scheduled.
BumRushDaShow
(129,541 posts)so he could rest the weekend in case of any reactions. His shot #2 is in December.
sheshe2
(83,926 posts)BumRushDaShow
(129,541 posts)is that his school did it as part of a vaccine clinic they setup for the students so they have the shots done there and then they'll schedule the 2nd doses, which would be done there too.
sheshe2
(83,926 posts)A familiar place surrounded by friends.
My sister just sent me a pic of my great niece holding up her vaccine card after her shot this afternoon.
BumRushDaShow
(129,541 posts)I bet she was proud to have "her card". Gives them a sense of pride being a good citizen and helping to save lives.
lapucelle
(18,350 posts)BumRushDaShow
(129,541 posts)Orrex
(63,225 posts)orangecrush
(19,624 posts)And concerned.
Orrex
(63,225 posts)mcar
(42,376 posts)Orrex
(63,225 posts)Until then, well, weve seen this shit before.
mcar
(42,376 posts)"Do something, Garland!" to if Bannon isn't locked up for the rest of his life (which isn't going to happen based on these charges) than it's nothing?
Orrex
(63,225 posts)Look, I get that it's uncomfortable for you to accept that everyone doesn't have infinite patience and boundless faith in The Sacred Process.
If you are unable to bear the realization that everyone doesn't think like you, then I invite you not to read my posts.
Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin
(108,233 posts)multigraincracker
(32,727 posts)a week or two. No Club Fed.
padah513
(2,506 posts)Botany
(70,589 posts)orangecrush
(19,624 posts)Botany
(70,589 posts)Last edited Sat Nov 13, 2021, 07:24 AM - Edit history (3)
Or just get some kind of boat or barge on the Potomac and put their asses there. For the love God they tried to violently
overthrow our country.
Response to orangecrush (Reply #37)
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PA_jen
(1,114 posts)about time!
heckles65
(549 posts)RussBLib
(9,037 posts)but I was likewise getting impatient.
orangecrush
(19,624 posts)He will be arrested?
What happens next?
sheshe2
(83,926 posts)orangecrush
(19,624 posts)bucolic_frolic
(43,308 posts)his Presidential Pardon? The penalty for contempt of Congress is minimal - $1000 fine and 30 days in jail. Or at least that's what I read.
Ocelot II
(115,869 posts)BumRushDaShow
(129,541 posts)(from the article I posted up thread that was recently updated) -
The indictment is a first: No one has been prosecuted for contempt of Congress when executive privilege was asserted.
Nov. 12, 2021, 3:58 PM EST / Updated Nov. 12, 2021, 4:12 PM EST
By Pete Williams
WASHINGTON Former Trump adviser Steve Bannon was indicted by a federal grand jury Friday, charged with contempt of Congress for refusing to answer questions from the House Committee investigating the Jan. 6 Capitol riot.
(snip)
He was charged Friday with two contempt counts one for refusing to appear for a deposition and another for declining to produce documents requested by the committee. If convicted, Bannon could face up to a year behind bars and a fine of up to $100,000.
A law enforcement official said Bannon is expected to surrender on Monday and appear in court that afternoon. Neither Bannon nor his attorney immediately responded to a request for comment. Attorney General Merrick Garland issued a brief statement explaining the decision to indict Bannon.
"Since my first day in office," he said, "I have promised Justice Department employees that together we would show the American people by word and deed that the department adheres to the rule of law, follows the facts and the law, and pursues equal justice under the law. Today's charges reflect the departments steadfast commitment to these principles.
(snip)
More: https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/justice-department/former-trump-adviser-steve-bannon-indicted-federal-grand-jury-contempt-n1283834
Lucky Luciano
(11,260 posts)Raven123
(4,872 posts)ShazzieB
(16,539 posts)It would be nice if these things moved faster, but at least we now know for a fact that they ARE moving. (Not that I ever doubted it myself.)
He is supposed to appear in court on Monday and will likely enter a plea of Not Guilty, but that's okay, because that's what almost of them do. He'll be convicted in the end, because he based his refusal to appear on executive privilege, of which he has exactly ZERO.
brer cat
(24,615 posts)bluestarone
(17,058 posts)Evolve Dammit
(16,778 posts)brooklynite
(94,742 posts)George II
(67,782 posts)....for something like this.
Bannon was formally cited for contempt on October 26.
The indictment must be issued by a Grand Jury, as was done today.
Grand Juries sit twice a month, roughly every 15-16 days.
Today is November 12, only 17 days since the contempt citation.
Even if the House prepared the paperwork for the referral to the DOJ the very same day, October 26, the earliest that an indictment could be handed down would be November 10.
So at worst Garland "sat on this" for only two or three days!
So this is what everyone was complaining about and bashing Garland about? TWO OR THREE DAYS????
Unbelievable.
NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)... it's just that everyone else had unreasonable expectations. Many used their impatience to lash-out at the Biden administration's Department of Justice. Shameful.
lapucelle
(18,350 posts)George II
(67,782 posts)...on Monday. It's been agreed that he'll turn himself in then.
mcar
(42,376 posts)this was remarkably fast. Not good enough, of course, for the NOW, NOW, NOW!!11 crowd.
BumRushDaShow
(129,541 posts)so you had people probably working OT to get things ready (been there done that ) but the jurors were probably off yesterday too.
George II
(67,782 posts)electric_blue68
(14,946 posts)True Blue American
(17,989 posts)Getting close, Trump!
George II
(67,782 posts)....to turn himself in on Monday.
I guess that's good, but I'd much rather see something like this (Jim Bakker's perp walk):
mcar
(42,376 posts)Merrick Garland's DOJ came through!
PSPS
(13,616 posts)Even if he's "convicted," the "penalty" is 30 - 90 days in jail plus a $10 - $100 fine.
lapucelle
(18,350 posts)https://www.cnbc.com/2021/11/12/trump-ally-steve-bannon-indicted-for-dodging-jan-6-probe-subpoena.html
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https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/justice-department/former-trump-adviser-steve-bannon-indicted-federal-grand-jury-contempt-n1283834
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https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2021/11/12/message-steve-bannons-indictment-sends/
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And there is a mandatory minimum of one month in prison for each conviction.
Jon King
(1,910 posts)Read any right wing site, Bannon is a king now. A year in jail for not cooperating in exchange for tons of money for appearances, speeches, book deals. Bannon will gladly serve his time.
lapucelle
(18,350 posts)PSPS
(13,616 posts)They made it clear that this was a misdemeanor, so max jail is one year.
Jon King
(1,910 posts)Not sure why people think Bannon cares. He won't cooperate, serve his time, and be a MAGA god. Make tons of money off MAGA donors, webcasts, books, TV appearances, speeches.
irisblue
(33,034 posts)yaesu
(8,020 posts)new status.
TeamProg
(6,251 posts)Much of mine and others' frustration with the DOJ is the lack of charges vs TFG.
This Bannon / Select Committee stuff is still new.
Where is the progress against DJT?
Obstruction
Conspiracy
Hatch Act
Attempt to commit Election Fraud and the conspiracy involved there
Tax evasion
OMG, there is so much more.
Where are the indictments?
Trump and Trumpism needs to be put behind bars - for real and figuratively.
ancianita
(36,137 posts)Last edited Tue Dec 7, 2021, 08:35 PM - Edit history (1)
First, the DOJ precedent is set that Congress can depend on the Executive Branch's Department of Justice to support it.
Second, the Department of Justice is so thorough in its layout of Rule of Law in this case that the Third Branch will also join in on this the decision to protect against the attack on this longest standing democracy, brought on by those who tried to corrupt all three branches.
Third, Rule of Law will have a body of precedent, across three branches, no matter what happens in 2022 and 2024.
This is historical.
TeamProg
(6,251 posts)You wrote ""First, the DOJ precendent is set that Congress can depend on the Executive Branch's Department of Justice to support it. ""
Answer:
1. Bill Barr and the Mueller Report.
2. Russian collusion = Why would Putin lie?
3. Extorting Ukraine's Zelensky ( sp?)
Your 2nd and 3rd points follow the very same politics as above.
ancianita
(36,137 posts)None of those instances connect to the heart of American democracy.
TeamProg
(6,251 posts)is as of 2017, a MYTH. Some might argue since further back.
What you said in your previous post is not an absolute.
Now, it is NOT political for Garland to go after all law breakers, what IS political is for him to "weigh" the political consequences of going after powerful law-breakers BEFORE DECIDING to either going after them or NOT going after them.
Someone's "oath" is only as valid as the person who takes that oath deems it to be, right?
Apparently even TRUTH and FACT are debatable to some people.
ancianita
(36,137 posts)Last edited Tue Dec 7, 2021, 08:37 PM - Edit history (1)
about the 2017 DOJ behavior as a myth, and that what I'm saying is not absolute.
I get your reasoning, but do not see Garland's weighing of the consequences as political.
His weighing based on law.
Why? Because Garland does not agree with your presumption of men as "powerful."
Because he does not swear an oath to rule of men, but Rule Of Law -- to protect and defend law, not men.
Therefore, no. No one who understands constitutional law bases its validity at all on some oath taker's interpretation.
So neither my interpretation nor yours nor the oath takers' are valid but by enforcement in word and deed.
Heh heh. Sure. Definitely, truth and fact exist whether "some people" debate it or not.
Only a Gallup Poll would give us their numbers.
TeamProg
(6,251 posts)Rule Of Law Precedents didn't last through TFG's admin.
ancianita
(36,137 posts)TeamProg
(6,251 posts)disregard for the rule of law.
Most of us were there!
I guess some people missed that unruly part of TFG's admin.
Pardon me!
lapucelle
(18,350 posts)George II
(67,782 posts)...target.
Like there's nothing going on in the DOJ, as was suspected in this light speed indictment.
SMDH!
Blue Owl
(50,511 posts)Marthe48
(17,035 posts)GDI-he refused. Stop sugar-coating the criminal acts of traitor and his henchmen.
Paladin
(28,275 posts)I'd like to think that all the gripes here at DU played a part in this most welcome action.
UnderThisLaw
(318 posts)mike_c
(36,281 posts)This is little more than theater.
lapucelle
(18,350 posts)to appear to answer questions concerning one's role in planning an insurrection with the goal of disrupting the peaceful transfer of presidential power...
...is more than theater.
"Little more than theater" is such an interesting expression. Isn't that the term Rand Paul uses for the wearing of masks during a global pandemic?
twodogsbarking
(9,822 posts)Stuart G
(38,448 posts)About him not showing up ...
Dreampuff
(778 posts)Bannon gets his moment in the Sun and I can't wait to hear the evening news.