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mahatmakanejeeves

(57,567 posts)
Thu Nov 25, 2021, 05:53 PM Nov 2021

9 injured when vehicle rear-ends Amish buggy in Wisconsin

Source: Associated Press

9 injured when vehicle rear-ends Amish buggy in Wisconsin

46 minutes ago

LITTLE BLACK, Wis. (AP) — Nine people were injured in north-central Wisconsin when a vehicle rear-ended an Amish buggy at “highway speeds,” authorities said.

The crash was reported about 2:45 p.m. Wednesday in the town of Little Black, the Taylor County Sheriff’s Department said in a statement. Ten people were in the buggy as it headed north on a county road.

The release said eight of the nine people injured had “significant injuries” and were transported for medical care. Their conditions are not known.

The 35-year-old driver of the vehicle is being held in the Taylor County Jail on suspicion of operating under the influence of a controlled substance and inattentive driving, authorities said.

Read more: https://apnews.com/article/wisconsin-5b22beddc11e165b76a7247f3beb4166



Nine people were injured when a vehicle rear-ended an Amish buggy at “highway speeds" in Wisconsin. Authorities say 10 people were in the buggy as it headed north on a county road. The 35-year-old driver of the vehicle is being held in jail.


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9 injured when vehicle rear-ends Amish buggy in Wisconsin (Original Post) mahatmakanejeeves Nov 2021 OP
Geez. If one lives on Amish country you better learn to accommodate buggies. LakeArenal Nov 2021 #1
Dang, Wisconsin. The rest were in the North, catrose Nov 2021 #9
That IS amazing! ShazzieB Nov 2021 #14
It's one thing to drink. It's another to drink and drive TexasBushwhacker Nov 2021 #21
Alcoholism is a very popular sport in Wisconsin. nt Progressive Jones Nov 2021 #12
WTH is going on in WI? Deuxcents Nov 2021 #2
I saw this thread and came to post the same inquiry. nt Gore1FL Nov 2021 #5
This message was self-deleted by its author C Moon Nov 2021 #3
I live in one of the areas of WI John Ludi Nov 2021 #4
This incident occurred at 245 pm MichMan Nov 2021 #6
I used to live in central Wisconsin, where there are plenty of Amish. Fortinbras Armstrong Nov 2021 #36
I wasn't aware of Amish in Wisconsin. LiberalFighter Nov 2021 #7
Yeah, there are quite a few up in northern Wisconsin. Luciferous Nov 2021 #10
The Amish are a branch of the Mennonites. Fortinbras Armstrong Nov 2021 #37
Do Wisconsin Amish use lights on their buggies? JohnnyRingo Nov 2021 #8
SOME John Ludi Nov 2021 #26
It's fast becoming the Florida of the Midwest. RandySF Nov 2021 #11
Many of us Northern Illinoisans are starting to stay out of there. Progressive Jones Nov 2021 #16
Pretty sure fewer DJDog Nov 2021 #18
No doubt, but there's another reason to stay away. nt Progressive Jones Nov 2021 #19
I'm hoping John Ludi Nov 2021 #27
How's the horse? marble falls Nov 2021 #13
In Ohio the Amish have replaced about all their bicycles with e-bikes. I asked a Amish gentleman doc03 Nov 2021 #15
First and foremost the Amish are businesspeople. LakeArenal Nov 2021 #17
If they got rid of their buggies it would effect their tourist business. It seems doc03 Nov 2021 #20
Some of my ancestors settled in what was called Salemville. LiberalFighter Nov 2021 #29
Well I lived in Marquette. LakeArenal Nov 2021 #30
you're exactly right. there are differences stopdiggin Nov 2021 #33
I once saw a documentary about a barn raising in an Amish community. Fortinbras Armstrong Nov 2021 #38
there are all sorts of caveats (large and small) stopdiggin Nov 2021 #40
Nice! C Moon Nov 2021 #23
Shit. Now they're going after the Amish! Aristus Nov 2021 #22
Holiday drunk driving, it sounds like. C Moon Nov 2021 #24
It happens too often KentuckyWoman Nov 2021 #25
I walk occasionally doing local errands like going to the grocery store. Prof. Toru Tanaka Nov 2021 #28
No word in the article about the condition of the horse. Coventina Nov 2021 #31
I noticed that too. Peregrine Took Nov 2021 #32
horrifying. so, so sorry for that family -(nt)- stopdiggin Nov 2021 #34
Inattentive driving - see that every day bucolic_frolic Nov 2021 #35
This particular man was arrested for Driving Under the Influence. n/t Fortinbras Armstrong Nov 2021 #39
He was under the influence of a controlled substance, not alcohol. intheflow Nov 2021 #41

LakeArenal

(28,835 posts)
1. Geez. If one lives on Amish country you better learn to accommodate buggies.
Thu Nov 25, 2021, 06:00 PM
Nov 2021

Really tragic. Wis has sooo many habitual drunk drivers.

Side note: We saw an article:

80 Drunkest Counties in the US.

41...That’s FORTY ONE of those drunkest counties are in Wis.

ShazzieB

(16,475 posts)
14. That IS amazing!
Thu Nov 25, 2021, 10:00 PM
Nov 2021

I always thought New Orleans was one of the drunkest places on earth. But maybe that's just during Mardi Gras.

TexasBushwhacker

(20,208 posts)
21. It's one thing to drink. It's another to drink and drive
Fri Nov 26, 2021, 12:29 AM
Nov 2021

Maybe that's what Louisiana has going for it - the good sense to not drive drunk.

Response to mahatmakanejeeves (Original post)

John Ludi

(589 posts)
4. I live in one of the areas of WI
Thu Nov 25, 2021, 06:58 PM
Nov 2021

with a lot of Amish and I'm surprised this doesn't happen more often than it does. Amish driving buggies in the dark on hills on the highways combined with drunken rednecks and/or tweakers driving like maniacs is a recipe for disaster in these parts.

MichMan

(11,958 posts)
6. This incident occurred at 245 pm
Thu Nov 25, 2021, 08:11 PM
Nov 2021

We are quite a few Amish in our area, but I usually see them at Walmart after riding in a car with someone

Fortinbras Armstrong

(4,473 posts)
36. I used to live in central Wisconsin, where there are plenty of Amish.
Sat Nov 27, 2021, 10:00 AM
Nov 2021

We all know those black buggies with the orange and red triangles on the back. When those triangles were introduced, there was serious discussion among the Amish as to whether or not this was "ostentatious decoration". The sensible ones who said, "No, it's a warning sign" won the argument.

LiberalFighter

(51,020 posts)
7. I wasn't aware of Amish in Wisconsin.
Thu Nov 25, 2021, 08:21 PM
Nov 2021

On edit. I found Wisconsin is 4th in the country with Amish. Despite that three locations mentioned are areas my relatives/ancestors lived and the research I have done for genealogy I never encountered mention of them. The religion of those relatives consisted of either the German Refomed Church or Lutheran.

Fortinbras Armstrong

(4,473 posts)
37. The Amish are a branch of the Mennonites.
Sat Nov 27, 2021, 10:17 AM
Nov 2021

Who themselves are a branch of the Anabaptists.

I think of them as like the Hassidic Jews -- a group who, for religious reasons, reject as much of the modern world as they can.

You would almost certainly not find them in your genealogical investigations. Again, like the Hassidim, over 99% of the Amish are the children of Amish parents. Both the Amish and the Hassidim don't marry outside the religion. Indeed, there is a controversy as to whether or not the Amish are an ethnic group.

BTW, my mother's family are all Ashkenazic Jews, albeit not Hassidim.

JohnnyRingo

(18,638 posts)
8. Do Wisconsin Amish use lights on their buggies?
Thu Nov 25, 2021, 08:38 PM
Nov 2021

Here in NE Ohio they finally decided about 20 years ago that tail lights were lifesavers. The churches all got together and opted for SMV placards and red tail lights and even turn signals on some. There are still fatal mishaps now and then, but it's so much better now.

Progressive Jones

(6,011 posts)
16. Many of us Northern Illinoisans are starting to stay out of there.
Thu Nov 25, 2021, 10:02 PM
Nov 2021

Southern Wisconsin makes big dollars off of Illinois vacationers, hunters, et al.

That cash cow will be drying up.

doc03

(35,361 posts)
15. In Ohio the Amish have replaced about all their bicycles with e-bikes. I asked a Amish gentleman
Thu Nov 25, 2021, 10:02 PM
Nov 2021

how they charge them and he said all the farms have solar panels or generators. So if they can have
electric bicycles why not do away with the buggies and have electric cars? According to him is is OK to use
solar panels, hydro power, wind power or a generator it comes from god. They don't believe in connecting
to the power grid. I haven't seen them driving electric cars but why not?

LakeArenal

(28,835 posts)
17. First and foremost the Amish are businesspeople.
Thu Nov 25, 2021, 10:29 PM
Nov 2021

Yes the religious thing but it’s all centered on business.

Saying that, different groups of Amish have great differences in what exactly is correct.

I had a personal friend who owns the Grand River Greenhouse.

The link is a map of many of the Amish Businesses just in my area of WI.

https://portagewi.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/03/amish-map.pdf

doc03

(35,361 posts)
20. If they got rid of their buggies it would effect their tourist business. It seems
Thu Nov 25, 2021, 10:46 PM
Nov 2021

like sometimes their business interest overrides their religious beliefs. Same names as the Ohio Amish
Yoder, Hershburger, Mullet, Miller, Weaver

LiberalFighter

(51,020 posts)
29. Some of my ancestors settled in what was called Salemville.
Fri Nov 26, 2021, 09:42 AM
Nov 2021

Right off of Inglehart Rd. They were not Amish. They came from Hesse.

For reference point that area consists of the counties of Columbia, Green Lake, and Dodge.

stopdiggin

(11,336 posts)
33. you're exactly right. there are differences
Fri Nov 26, 2021, 01:21 PM
Nov 2021

from place to place, and order (or sect) to order. And there are also adaptations and concessions that appear over time. Transportation, telephones, electricity (and some machinery) - all of these have acquired some (varied) degree of acceptance and adoption over the past generation or two.

Some people charge hypocrisy - but in my opinion this is precisely what you're probably going to observe in other groupings of people - religious or otherwise. Just solid group behavior and social dynamics. After all, why should I be casting stones at the Amish for 'picking and choosing' - when the Catholics (and everyone else) have been quite open about it for hundreds of years?

Fortinbras Armstrong

(4,473 posts)
38. I once saw a documentary about a barn raising in an Amish community.
Sat Nov 27, 2021, 10:23 AM
Nov 2021

A barn had burned down, and the Amish community came to build a new one. I was fascinated by one man using a chainsaw, and it was obvious that he was quite experienced in its use.

stopdiggin

(11,336 posts)
40. there are all sorts of caveats (large and small)
Sat Nov 27, 2021, 01:06 PM
Nov 2021

which seem quite strange (perhaps contradictory) to the outsider. But, like I said, to me no more contradictory than a whole host of 'adaptations' or pick and choose behaviors among denominations and religions around the world.

Your practice or belief - and I guess that gives you the right to decide how it works.

KentuckyWoman

(6,690 posts)
25. It happens too often
Fri Nov 26, 2021, 03:00 AM
Nov 2021

Add in how many people riding bikes, or walking get picked off by inattentive or inconsiderate drivers.

DOT workers, police, those highway help drivers too. I don't know how to get people to stop over-estimating their driving ability and slow down, pay attention etc.

Prof. Toru Tanaka

(1,977 posts)
28. I walk occasionally doing local errands like going to the grocery store.
Fri Nov 26, 2021, 09:25 AM
Nov 2021


And I NEVER, EVER walk with my back to oncoming traffic.

bucolic_frolic

(43,249 posts)
35. Inattentive driving - see that every day
Fri Nov 26, 2021, 01:42 PM
Nov 2021

Driver's watching the hand-held with an occasional glance at the road. A white van package carrier delivery guy leaning over at 70 degrees to his right on the hand-held, or his next delivery/stop driving down the middle of the road. Learn to be on your horns, people. Don't have to blare rudely but a quick toot can alert the driver and prevent an accident with YOU! And notify the driver he needs to pay more attention.

intheflow

(28,494 posts)
41. He was under the influence of a controlled substance, not alcohol.
Sun Nov 28, 2021, 01:50 AM
Nov 2021

I'm guessing meth, heroin, or painkillers, the scourges of middle America along with jingoism, willful ignorance, and O. Maybe it was pot, but most potheads I know drive too slow - and certainly not at highway speeds coming up on an Amish buggy.

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