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George II

(67,782 posts)
Fri Dec 3, 2021, 04:10 PM Dec 2021

Parents Of Michigan Shooter Have Gone Missing After Charges Filed

Source: 1430 KASI

The parents of the Michigan high school shooting suspect have reportedly gone missing after being charged in relation to the incident, CNN reports.

Local authorities confirmed they are searching for James and Jennifer Crumbley, the parents of accused Oxford High School shooter Ethan Crumbley, hours after they were each announced to face four counts of homicide involuntary manslaughter on Friday (December 3).

The parents were scheduled for an arraignment at 4:00 p.m. ET.

On Thursday (December 2), Oxford County prosecutor Karen McDonald criticized Crumbley's parents' actions as being "far beyond negligence" in relation to the incident and said a charging decision was expected to come by Friday.

Read more: https://1430kasi.iheart.com/content/2021-12-03-parents-of-michigan-shooter-have-gone-missing-after-charges-filed/



Note: Source changed to KASI 1430 News which had more information.

Ethan Crumbley's parents, James and Jennifer Crumbley, appeared virtually at their son's arraignment, Dec. 1, 2021.

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Parents Of Michigan Shooter Have Gone Missing After Charges Filed (Original Post) George II Dec 2021 OP
Jesus. Should have located them before announcing charges maybe? Wingus Dingus Dec 2021 #1
CNN is reporting that they put out a video of themselves watching their son's arraignment... George II Dec 2021 #4
If they're on the run they can't get any stupider. They'll be caught soon. brush Dec 2021 #26
There is at least one least one level sarisataka Dec 2021 #32
...Stupid is very stupid. We will see..time will tell, and ring the bell. Stuart G Dec 2021 #45
Yeah, they'll probably take a "last stand" mentality and shoot it out with the cops. Texin Dec 2021 #91
They will be caught and they added 10+ years to whatever sentence they'll get. George II Dec 2021 #53
That's what I just posted.. that Cha Dec 2021 #78
Good! SheltieLover Dec 2021 #85
Aloha Sheltie💙 Now their lawyer is saying this.. Cha Dec 2021 #88
Oh, all of a sudden safety is important? SheltieLover Dec 2021 #90
Mahalo.. which Island was that? Cha Dec 2021 #92
Sorry, not sure which island SheltieLover Dec 2021 #95
Yeah, it's the Big Island.. TY for the heads up! Cha Dec 2021 #97
Yw! SheltieLover Dec 2021 #98
Here is post SheltieLover Dec 2021 #105
Mahalo, Sheltie! Cha Dec 2021 #108
Yw, Cha! SheltieLover Dec 2021 #110
Yes. The upper elevations of the big island. George II Dec 2021 #113
Mahalo George.. The Bid Island is Cha Dec 2021 #114
I hope they get Lots of Extra Cha Dec 2021 #74
Maybe they have a bunker somewhere. wnylib Dec 2021 #112
They're in a vehicle in that picture. haele Dec 2021 #102
FUGITIVES Goonch Dec 2021 #5
Weird, weird people. Wingus Dingus Dec 2021 #7
MAGAs who are confused because their principles turned out to be a landmine Baitball Blogger Dec 2021 #13
Well-said. Wingus Dingus Dec 2021 #20
Oooh yeah not fooled Dec 2021 #54
Yep. That's my guess. calimary Dec 2021 #116
YEP Rebl2 Dec 2021 #41
It is frustrating for everyone for sure, but do we know if they have taken off Bev54 Dec 2021 #55
They said they left for their own safety... AngryOldDem Dec 2021 #60
Ha, that is a clear answer I guess Bev54 Dec 2021 #104
Gee, what a nice family! Running out on their son. PSPS Dec 2021 #2
Really getting less and less surprising how this boy turned into Wingus Dingus Dec 2021 #6
Horrible people Dec 2021 #8
Maybe charge Rebl2 Dec 2021 #43
they markie Dec 2021 #21
More likely have been abusing him since he was a baby relayerbob Dec 2021 #34
but...but... radical noodle Dec 2021 #47
This may get interesting sarisataka Dec 2021 #3
Any swamps in Michigan? Baitball Blogger Dec 2021 #16
Too cowardly to off themselves relayerbob Dec 2021 #35
Prediction: It's going to get MAGA'd up. RandySF Dec 2021 #9
Scum On The Run DanieRains Dec 2021 #10
Please! Have some respect! VWolf Dec 2021 #37
Wait! I love that song. MontanaMama Dec 2021 #69
Michigan Wants Me... FailureToCommunicate Dec 2021 #99
Wow, ditching him. LiberatedUSA Dec 2021 #11
FBI on way to Mar a Lago aeromanKC Dec 2021 #12
It's all over the news right now. sheshe2 Dec 2021 #14
No question why that kid Cha Dec 2021 #84
Rittenhouse did the same thing, per his lawyers. sheshe2 Dec 2021 #109
From The Daily Beast: tblue37 Dec 2021 #15
I think there might be a double suicide here, or homicide/suicide, if Wingus Dingus Dec 2021 #18
My first thoughts exactly. llmart Dec 2021 #36
That's possible. Or they are spending a few hours with each other, incommunicado, femmedem Dec 2021 #38
They weren't the most upstanding people to begin with, both having Wingus Dingus Dec 2021 #46
I didn't know that they had records. femmedem Dec 2021 #59
I am okay with that. Think of the money Michigan will save. Ray Bruns Dec 2021 #49
What a couple of chickenshits peacefreak2.0 Dec 2021 #17
The tree doesn't VGNonly Dec 2021 #19
Do you remember a few weeks back Traildogbob Dec 2021 #22
Bingo! BigmanPigman Dec 2021 #27
this is true. we have fanatics in our government praising and excusing this kind of behavior. IcyPeas Dec 2021 #31
Murder Caucus. You nailed it. robertpaulsen Dec 2021 #57
If a GofundMe goes up for these people MontanaMama Dec 2021 #73
I hope that's the case. Traildogbob Dec 2021 #81
Public pressure is what did it. MontanaMama Dec 2021 #83
Screw up their kid then desert him. Nice. Blue_playwright Dec 2021 #23
MAGAMartyrs? dchill Dec 2021 #24
DA is at fault Squaredeal Dec 2021 #25
They probably skipped town the day it happened relayerbob Dec 2021 #42
You can run, but you can't hide. They're just making it worse for themselves PortTack Dec 2021 #28
Was just listening to this on CNN while I walked mcar Dec 2021 #29
Wow.. TY for the report, mcar. Cha Dec 2021 #51
Surprised by What?! Blacks get arrested. Whites are asked to turn themselves in. AllTooEasy Dec 2021 #87
Totally is. mcar Dec 2021 #89
Cowards! berni_mccoy Dec 2021 #30
Has there ever been a news story... LiberatedUSA Dec 2021 #33
The Laundrie/Petito case was also doubled-down incompetence Wingus Dingus Dec 2021 #39
Hate to say this, but I hope they have a text from them relayerbob Dec 2021 #40
They didn't. The mother texted him not to do it when she heard about the shooting. femmedem Dec 2021 #61
I wonder if she knew it had gone down and wrote that to exonerate herself-- Wingus Dingus Dec 2021 #62
I wondered about that, also. tikka Dec 2021 #80
I read it as mom telling her son not to kill himself after shooting the kids. Hamlette Dec 2021 #100
Ah, ok relayerbob Dec 2021 #68
Guns don't kill people, gun owners kill people. n/t spike jones Dec 2021 #44
Ugly Idiots.. look what they Cha Dec 2021 #48
I wonder if they'll go out guns blazing if surrounded NickB79 Dec 2021 #50
I saw a mention that they bear a strong resemblance to two of the Capitol Seditionists groundloop Dec 2021 #52
They can go.."MISSING"..BUT THEY WILL BE CAUGHT"...."DEAD OR ALIVE"..stupid is very stupid Stuart G Dec 2021 #56
My early thought today is the authorities may find them dead in a cheap motel somewhere.... George II Dec 2021 #64
What total, utter pieces of SHIT. AngryOldDem Dec 2021 #58
The ".American Committee Infavor of SHIT"..BEGS TO DIFFER. I am a voting member.. Stuart G Dec 2021 #70
Have the GoFundMe pages been set up yet? NQAS Dec 2021 #63
Go Fund Me doesn't allow raising legal fees for those charged with a violent crime. Squaredeal Dec 2021 #75
I know NQAS Dec 2021 #79
White privilege, I bet if they were black, they wouldn't have had the opportunity Meadowoak Dec 2021 #77
I bet they slipped the border hours ago with lofty dreams of the movie royalties /nt bucolic_frolic Dec 2021 #65
Crazy enough that it might be "Double Suicide". Fla Dem Dec 2021 #66
Did the gun shop have CCTV? Squaredeal Dec 2021 #67
Does Michigan even have an extradition treaty with Mar-a-Lago? DFW Dec 2021 #71
Presumably armed and dangerous. Harker Dec 2021 #72
Very "Sick" and .."VERY STUPID TOO" Stuart G Dec 2021 #76
All those ingredients are a recipe for disaster. Harker Dec 2021 #96
Notify Canada, Windsor is just south of there. Hassler Dec 2021 #82
I'm sure Canada is well aware of the situation. ShazzieB Dec 2021 #103
You know what? I LOVE IT !! This makes GUN OWNERS LOOK EVEN WORSE !! TeamProg Dec 2021 #86
I seem to recollect the same sort of thing happened with Rittenhouse. Gore1FL Dec 2021 #93
At least thus far, it appears I have given them too much credit. nt Gore1FL Dec 2021 #111
Maybe they're hiding in Pickney. VGNonly Dec 2021 #94
Ugh, they look exactly how I thought they'd look. As a Michigander, I'm so disgusted. catbyte Dec 2021 #101
There are new pics in this article... Whatthe_Firetruck Dec 2021 #107
two white trash pos. rockfordfile Dec 2021 #106
Someone was trashed here for saying these idiots were possibly "in on it" BradAllison Dec 2021 #115
Seeking safe shelter at the Rittenhouse Blue Owl Dec 2021 #117
This message was self-deleted by its author ExTex Dec 2021 #118

George II

(67,782 posts)
4. CNN is reporting that they put out a video of themselves watching their son's arraignment...
Fri Dec 3, 2021, 04:13 PM
Dec 2021

...the other day. So they probably booked soon after that.

brush

(53,784 posts)
26. If they're on the run they can't get any stupider. They'll be caught soon.
Fri Dec 3, 2021, 04:46 PM
Dec 2021

Law enforcement agencies all over the country will/have been alerted, as well as airports and border authorities.

I'm starting to wonder if these two are operating with full brain loads...I mean they just bought their clearly disturbed kid a gun.

Stuart G

(38,428 posts)
45. ...Stupid is very stupid. We will see..time will tell, and ring the bell.
Fri Dec 3, 2021, 05:06 PM
Dec 2021


As they say, "Humor is the best medicine"...oh well hide again...

Cha

(297,275 posts)
78. That's what I just posted.. that
Fri Dec 3, 2021, 05:38 PM
Dec 2021

they will get Lor of Extra Prison time for running.. like rats.

SheltieLover

(57,073 posts)
90. Oh, all of a sudden safety is important?
Fri Dec 3, 2021, 06:10 PM
Dec 2021


Poor student victims & families.

Mahalo, Cha.

Saw headline for Hawaii: 12" snow & up to 100mph winds. Stay safe! 🌺

Cha

(297,275 posts)
92. Mahalo.. which Island was that?
Fri Dec 3, 2021, 06:17 PM
Dec 2021

Maybe the Big Island?

We're on Kauai.. way North.

Yeah, it doesn't ring true that they're afraid for their safety.. they're the ones with the guns.

SheltieLover

(57,073 posts)
95. Sorry, not sure which island
Fri Dec 3, 2021, 06:20 PM
Dec 2021

Just saw headline.

Maybe felt naked after guns rempved from home.

🌺

haele

(12,659 posts)
102. They're in a vehicle in that picture.
Fri Dec 3, 2021, 06:55 PM
Dec 2021

They were probably heading for whatever Militia or Q-inspired bug-out hidey-hole they planned to use during the second Civil War.
Of course, that's my speculation. They could be perfectly reasonable T***pers who were going to Grandma's to help her through her shock, and will be back as soon as they know she's okay.
But it's telling that they abandon their own kid. That really is rather inexcusable.

Haele.

Baitball Blogger

(46,720 posts)
13. MAGAs who are confused because their principles turned out to be a landmine
Fri Dec 3, 2021, 04:23 PM
Dec 2021

of consequences that they are not prepared to face.

Bev54

(10,052 posts)
55. It is frustrating for everyone for sure, but do we know if they have taken off
Fri Dec 3, 2021, 05:12 PM
Dec 2021

or are in hiding for their own safety and away from the media? Wait until the arraignment and see if they show up, then we will know for sure.

AngryOldDem

(14,061 posts)
60. They said they left for their own safety...
Fri Dec 3, 2021, 05:16 PM
Dec 2021

…but would return if charges were filed. Arraignment was supposed to have been at 2. They’re gone.

PSPS

(13,599 posts)
2. Gee, what a nice family! Running out on their son.
Fri Dec 3, 2021, 04:12 PM
Dec 2021

Based on the gushing letter of adoration the mother sent to trump five years ago, they should be on the lookout for a car traveling at high speed in the direction of Mar-a-Lardo

people

(624 posts)
8. Horrible
Fri Dec 3, 2021, 04:18 PM
Dec 2021

The son is in jail charged with multiple counts of 1st degree murder and the parents are fleeing and leaving him alone? No wonder this kid is so horribly f'd up.

Cha

(297,275 posts)
84. No question why that kid
Fri Dec 3, 2021, 05:50 PM
Dec 2021

turned out to be a cowardly murderous rat.

Hope the Crumbleys get lots of extra prison time for running away. and letting their kid take all the blame/

This is what their lawyer is saying now.... or so says this report..

BREAKING: Crumbleys’ Lawyer Claims They Didn’t Flee, Just ‘Left Town For Their Own Safety’ and Will Return Soon

https://www.mediaite.com/uncategorized/breaking-crumbleys-lawyer-claims-they-didnt-flee-just-relocated-for-safety-and-will-return-soon/

tblue37

(65,391 posts)
15. From The Daily Beast:
Fri Dec 3, 2021, 04:23 PM
Dec 2021
https://www.thedailybeast.com/ethan-crumbleys-parents-james-and-jennifer-crumbley-charged-in-wake-of-oxford-high-school-shooting?ref=home

Snip

But it seems that the Crumbleys are now nowhere to be found. The county’s Fugitive Apprehension Team was searching for them on Friday after they stopped responding to their attorney, Oakland County Undersheriff Mike McCabe told Detroit News.

“Their attorney had assured us that if a decision was made to charge them, she would produce them for arrest,” McCabe said. “Our last conversation with the attorney was that she had been trying to reach them by phone and text, and they were not responding.”

Snip

Wingus Dingus

(8,054 posts)
18. I think there might be a double suicide here, or homicide/suicide, if
Fri Dec 3, 2021, 04:28 PM
Dec 2021

they don't present themselves soon. It may have happened before the news of the charges against them came out, in fact.

llmart

(15,540 posts)
36. My first thoughts exactly.
Fri Dec 3, 2021, 04:57 PM
Dec 2021

But it could also be that they think they can outsmart law enforcement. Trumpers really do believe they are brilliant.

femmedem

(8,203 posts)
38. That's possible. Or they are spending a few hours with each other, incommunicado,
Fri Dec 3, 2021, 04:58 PM
Dec 2021

before turning themselves in.

They made a horrible, horrible mistake. And they deserve to be charged. But the father did call 911 to alert the police that a gun was missing from their house and he thought their son might be the shooter. And the mother texted him as soon as word of the shooting got out, "Ethan, don't do it." So it isn't as if they are crazy enough to support what their son did, although they facilitated it by making the gun available and failed to respond appropriately and quickly when the school informed them of evidence of their son's thoughts.

There was so little time between the meeting at the school and the shooting. I don't know what I would do if a school administrator provided me with evidence that a child of mine was thinking of committing mass murder, but I can imagine thinking I had time to get him into counseling, not thinking the shooting would be that same day. Sometimes something so awful is hard to take in immediately. I say this as someone who saw my fiance dying from a self-inflicted gunshot wound, knew he was dying, and simultaneously hallucinated that he sat up in his hospital bed and said, "Oh my god, look what I almost did."

I'll probably get flamed for this post but I always try to understand people's motivations, especially when I profoundly disagree with their actions.

Wingus Dingus

(8,054 posts)
46. They weren't the most upstanding people to begin with, both having
Fri Dec 3, 2021, 05:06 PM
Dec 2021

records. Mom's letter to Trump sounded nuts. They bought their son a handgun and when the school called them because they were concerned about his searching for ammo online during class, mom didn't even bother to respond or talk with them. And they talked the school into letting him go back to class instead of immediately taking him home, even after it was clear he wrote some very disturbing and sad things that very morning, things that would have torn my heart open as a mother. I think they did more than make mistakes as well-meaning parents--I think the mom is off her rocker and helped create the monster.

femmedem

(8,203 posts)
59. I didn't know that they had records.
Fri Dec 3, 2021, 05:15 PM
Dec 2021

And their son's anger came from somewhere, and reportedly it wasn't from being bullied at school.

I believe that the charge of involuntary manslaughter is well-deserved. It's also the most heartbreaking of charges, as it means that someone's gross error in judgement--not someone's intention to cause harm--resulted in someone's death.

I don't know if she is sane or not, but I'm glad she isn't my neighbor.

Traildogbob

(8,746 posts)
22. Do you remember a few weeks back
Fri Dec 3, 2021, 04:38 PM
Dec 2021

Madison Cawthorn was ranting to a MAGA crowd, “young men have too little testosterone” and rallied the mothers to raise their sons to be monsters. And the crowd roared with approval. He’s has been shouting blood in the streets. We have a murder caucus inside our government, stoking the death of Americans. And if kids die, it’s patriotic. Cawthorn needs arrested for pushing bloodshed. He as well as Trailer Queen and Bang Bang Barbie are proliferating Murderers demanding blood from Americans. When will we act?
This assholes mom posted the gun was a Christmas gift to the murderer. Posted pix of them at a shooting range with Mom and Son Day with his Christmas gift.
Watch the Fox take on this and the “millions” in go fund me, to protect this whole family of sick killers, fully devoted to trump cult.

robertpaulsen

(8,632 posts)
57. Murder Caucus. You nailed it.
Fri Dec 3, 2021, 05:13 PM
Dec 2021
That's what they need to be labeled as, because that's exactly what they are.

MontanaMama

(23,319 posts)
73. If a GofundMe goes up for these people
Fri Dec 3, 2021, 05:34 PM
Dec 2021

I would hope that GFM would take it down...like they did for the Ahmaud Arbery murderer.

Traildogbob

(8,746 posts)
81. I hope that's the case.
Fri Dec 3, 2021, 05:42 PM
Dec 2021

These go fund me for killing rewards are sick. I would hope there is SOME integrity with those in charge. I did not know they shut down the Georgia hangmen. That is good to know.

MontanaMama

(23,319 posts)
83. Public pressure is what did it.
Fri Dec 3, 2021, 05:48 PM
Dec 2021

It can be done again. I would be willing to bet this won't get that far for these particular parents.

mcar

(42,334 posts)
29. Was just listening to this on CNN while I walked
Fri Dec 3, 2021, 04:50 PM
Dec 2021

the experts are gobsmacked that they didn't have the couple in custody before charging them - and that they seemingly have no clue of their whereabouts as of Wednesday.

AllTooEasy

(1,260 posts)
87. Surprised by What?! Blacks get arrested. Whites are asked to turn themselves in.
Fri Dec 3, 2021, 06:00 PM
Dec 2021

Another example of Privilege

relayerbob

(6,544 posts)
40. Hate to say this, but I hope they have a text from them
Fri Dec 3, 2021, 05:00 PM
Dec 2021

To the kid, saying to go take out the school.

The whole group needs to be in for first degree at this point, IMO.

Wingus Dingus

(8,054 posts)
62. I wonder if she knew it had gone down and wrote that to exonerate herself--
Fri Dec 3, 2021, 05:20 PM
Dec 2021

and afterward she also told him not to cooperate or talk to police. Was that to protect HIS rights...or to protect themselves from being implicated?

tikka

(762 posts)
80. I wondered about that, also.
Fri Dec 3, 2021, 05:41 PM
Dec 2021

From current reporting, the email was sent after it was announced that an active shooter was at the high school. That is really strange timing to send that specific message.

Hamlette

(15,412 posts)
100. I read it as mom telling her son not to kill himself after shooting the kids.
Fri Dec 3, 2021, 06:49 PM
Dec 2021

so many mass shootings end in suicide.

Stuart G

(38,428 posts)
56. They can go.."MISSING"..BUT THEY WILL BE CAUGHT"...."DEAD OR ALIVE"..stupid is very stupid
Fri Dec 3, 2021, 05:12 PM
Dec 2021

You don't think so? Who is smarter? FBI or these two?

George II

(67,782 posts)
64. My early thought today is the authorities may find them dead in a cheap motel somewhere....
Fri Dec 3, 2021, 05:24 PM
Dec 2021

....or in their car in some remote area.

AngryOldDem

(14,061 posts)
58. What total, utter pieces of SHIT.
Fri Dec 3, 2021, 05:14 PM
Dec 2021

Why do I get the feeling that there is much, much more to this story?

Parents complicit in a fatal school shooting…I guess nothing should sadden or shock anymore.

Stuart G

(38,428 posts)
70. The ".American Committee Infavor of SHIT"..BEGS TO DIFFER. I am a voting member..
Fri Dec 3, 2021, 05:32 PM
Dec 2021
"Assistant Chairman"...if you will...

While ..."Pieces of Shit" ..have a use, these people have.."NO USE"..
____________________________________
IF YOU DIFFER WITH THIS, PLEASE SEE THE "BEG TO DIFFER COMMITTEE".........

(I am also a member of that one....but not the Chairman or "Assistant Chairman"...OH NO, time to hide again..

NQAS

(10,749 posts)
63. Have the GoFundMe pages been set up yet?
Fri Dec 3, 2021, 05:22 PM
Dec 2021

These seem to be pretty vile people. That's a prerequisite for MAGA crowdfunding.

Have to agree with some other posts. Don't you think the police should have had them under observation in preparation for the arrest warrants?

NQAS

(10,749 posts)
79. I know
Fri Dec 3, 2021, 05:40 PM
Dec 2021

But I didn't take the time to search for the names of crowdfunding sites for murders and manslaughterers and other vile MAGAts.

Granted, even RWNJs might pass on this. AFter all, there's no question that the murderer is a murderer. The parents, though? Their fellow gun humpers (am I allowed to use that term?) will almost certainly support the loving parents. They didn't kill anyone, after all. And they bought a gun for their son, which demonstrates what good parents they are.

Man, we live in a fucked up country,

Squaredeal

(398 posts)
67. Did the gun shop have CCTV?
Fri Dec 3, 2021, 05:26 PM
Dec 2021

I would hope that the prosecutor subpoenaed the tapes to see what the discussion was between the father and son and the yshop keeper.

DFW

(54,397 posts)
71. Does Michigan even have an extradition treaty with Mar-a-Lago?
Fri Dec 3, 2021, 05:33 PM
Dec 2021

If not, they might not show up for a while...........

ShazzieB

(16,412 posts)
103. I'm sure Canada is well aware of the situation.
Fri Dec 3, 2021, 07:24 PM
Dec 2021

With everyone from the FBI to the US Marshals looking for these people, who have fled from an area that close to an international border, there's no way Canadian authorities haven't been alerted.

TeamProg

(6,135 posts)
86. You know what? I LOVE IT !! This makes GUN OWNERS LOOK EVEN WORSE !!
Fri Dec 3, 2021, 05:54 PM
Dec 2021

THEY'LL BE CAUGHT WITHIN THREE DAYS !!

LOCK THEM UP FOR GOOD !!!



Gore1FL

(21,132 posts)
93. I seem to recollect the same sort of thing happened with Rittenhouse.
Fri Dec 3, 2021, 06:17 PM
Dec 2021

As it turned out, they went to a secret location to hide from the media and public and they didn't notify the right people. I expect the same thing occurred here.

I am not arguing for them, or suggesting that they are America's best and brightest, but I have serious doubts they abandoned the kid and everything they owned and ran.

BradAllison

(1,879 posts)
115. Someone was trashed here for saying these idiots were possibly "in on it"
Fri Dec 3, 2021, 10:38 PM
Dec 2021

Anyone wanna walk that back?

We're starting to approach depraved indifference at the least.

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