Max Rose to Run for House in Likely Rematch Against Malliotakis

[George II]

Source: NY Times

Subhead: Mr. Rose, a moderate Democrat, lost to Representative Nicole Malliotakis, a Republican, by six percentage points last year in a conservative district that includes Staten Island.

Dec. 6, 2021, 9:02 a.m. ET

Max Rose, a moderate Democrat who lost his congressional seat last year amid a resurgence of Republican power in parts of New York, announced on Monday that he was mounting another run for Congress, setting up a national political battleground in New York City.

The race for New York’s 11th Congressional District, currently held by Representative Nicole Malliotakis, a Republican, could be one of the most competitive in the metropolitan area next year, along with possible races on Long Island.

Depending on the contours of the Staten Island- and Brooklyn-area district following the redistricting process, the contest may also represent one of the Democrats’ more promising pickup opportunities, as they strain to maintain their congressional majorities heading into a grueling midterm campaign environment.

The race may also offer a revealing snapshot of how Democrats in key battlegrounds choose to position themselves, after the Republican Party gained ground over the last year by portraying Democratic candidates as anti-law enforcement.



Read more: https://www.nytimes.com/2021/12/06/nyregion/max-rose-congress-malliotakis.html?searchResultPosition=1

[TreasonousBastard]

1. I can't help thinking we should have given Staten Island to...

NJ along with that statue.

[George II]

2. The Statue of Liberty IS in New Jersey! (or did you mean "too"?) Correction*

Yes, Staten Island does not belong in New York, either the city or the state. I'd bet the Manhattan Indians wouldn't be interested in buying it even if the price were $24.

*The Statue of Liberty is within the waters of New Jersey but falls under the jurisdiction of NY State.

[TreasonousBastard]

6. Well, NJ spent enough suing us over it so they could say...

"Welcome to Bayonne"

[bucolic_frolic]

3. Conservative district

You hope name recognition builds from last time, you hammer the same issues, your work on messaging and organization, you hope the incumbent is tarnished by the Jan 6 party fallout. When you have no other path, you follow the path. A progressive is not going to win Staten Island.

[lapucelle]

5. The incumbent is "tarnished" for having voted for BIF as well.

House Republicans Who Backed Infrastructure Bill Face Vicious Backlash

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/11/10/us/politics/republicans-backlash-infrastructure-bill.html

Staten Island Rep. Nicole Malliotakis Faces Backlash After Joining GOP Bid to Overturn Biden Win

https://www.thecity.nyc/politics/2021/1/7/22219905/nicole-malliotakis-backlash-capitol-trump-biden

[Calista241]

4. Not sure how much faith I have in challengers like this.

It's a district we lost in 2020, when we had Biden drawing 80m+ votes. In a mid-term election, I'm hoping to hang on to what we have and not get crushed.

[TreasonousBastard]

7. Best not to have any. SI has been thr Republican corner of...

NYC since before tbe Dump

[George II]

12. I looked that up myself. Yes, NY-11 had a Democratic representative for decades but....

....that was before the 2012 redistricting. Prior to 2012 the NY-11 District was entirely within Brooklyn.

Staten Island itself, which now is a major part of the "new" NY-11, has voted republican for as long as I can remember.

[Claustrum]

14. Thank you. That explains a lot. I will edit my previous post.

[George II]

15. No big deal. BTW, in the prior 30 years before redistricting NY-11 had Black representatives...

I've looked everywhere but haven't been able to find how Staten Island alone has actually voted over the years.

[Claustrum]

16. I am not savvy or know enough to search and compare the new district map.

Someone mentioned NY-11 might change in the new district map giving Rose or any democrat more chances. Is there any basis for that?

[George II]

17. It's looking like that district will gain a bigger section of Brooklyn than now, which could flip...

...that district to predominantly Democratic or at least close the gap.

[Claustrum]

18. Thank you. You've been a great help. That's certainly great news.

It might not be helpful this year as it's supposedly a bad year for dems. But it's great that the district is more competitive which would translate to more democratic wins for the future, rather than the once in a blue moon that 2018 was.

[George II]

22. There have been so many changes in the Districts over the years it's mind boggling....

I tried to trace back to find who represented me in the districts I lived in over the years, but it's impossible.

But I did find who represents those districts now:

Brooklyn - Hakeem Jeffries
Queens - Grace Meng
Manhattan - Jerry Nadler
White Plains - Mondaire Jones

All Democrats. In fact, Malliotakis is the only republican representing any part of New York City.

[Danmel]

31. Staten Island has a Black Muslim Assembly representative

https://nyassembly.gov/mem/Charles-D-Fall

Go figure

[FreepFryer]

8. Max Rose spent more time attacking Nancy Pelosi than the GOP. We don't need him in the party. Nt

[George II]

10. No he didn't. If Max Rose is what will regain that seat, we need him in the Democratic Party.

[Claustrum]

11. Exactly. I will vote for anyone who can retake this district.

And from the looks of it, whoever that wins the seat votes or acts like an independent. Both Rose and the current republican rep voted across party line. That says a lot because they believe the district wants someone who will reach across the aisle rather than staying with the party line. There is enough swing votes that they vote like an independent rather than a hardline party rep.

[OnDoutside]

13. Wasn't he in the Gottheimer type wing ?

[FreepFryer]

20. "Stop the Stupidity" - Max Rose on Fox News to Nancy Pelosi and Schumer. Fuck Max Rose.

Last edited Mon Dec 6, 2021, 01:44 PM - Edit history (1)

"The pressure is loud and forthright and it is bipartisan in nature," Rose told Fox News of the urging on both GOP and Democratic leadership to move a "real" bill. "Because that pressure is reflective of where the American people are. They are sick and tired of politics."

Rep. Max Rose, D-N.Y.
"To the leadership, we said this very simple message: It's time for you to stop playing games. Let's stop the charade. Let's stop this stupidity. Let's put the country first."

The Problem Solvers' effort was designed to break the logjam on stalled coronavirus talks between Pelosi, Senate Democratic Leader Chuck Schumer, D-N.Y., and the White House. Instead, it met with unified resistance from Pelosi and her leadership team.

In a rare move, all eight major Democratic committee chairs put out a joint statement Tuesday rejecting the bipartisan plan, saying it "falls short of what is needed to save lives and boost the economy."

I won’t link it, google it to find Fox yourself.

[George II]

21. Okay then. Any suggestions on a Democrat who could win that seat? We see this all the time....

"Manchin sucks", "Rose sucks", etc. But NEVER an alternative to any of them that could actually represent the Democratic Party in either the House or Senate.

Essentially people are attacking viable Democrats and ceding the District or Senate seat to the republicans.

[FreepFryer]

23. Someone else. His words and actions have spoken for themselves (Nt)

[Polybius]

24. He lost because he marched in a BLM protest in June 2020

I live here, it's Bright Red. Only a Manchin Democrat can win here, and only one that attacks Pelosi. It's the sad state of affairs here.

[FreepFryer]

26. Then let another one try. He lost. (Nt)

[George II]

27. "Someone else". So you don't want Max Rose but have no idea who you want...

If that's the way the Democratic voters of NY-11 feel, Malliotakis will be re-elected.

[FreepFryer]

28. Lol. It's not Rose or nobody. What Democrat would think that way? Give me a break.

How many better people there must be, never given the chances Rose failed to seize.

[George II]

29. I'll ask again. What Democrat would you like to see run against Malliotakis?

[FreepFryer]

30. Not up to me. I'm not from SI. The voters and the leadership decided against Rose. Nuff said to me.

New candidates and talent aren’t hard to find. Just need to elevate better people than Rose, who make better decisions in tough political climates.

[Polybius]

32. I wish Joe Manchin had a son who lived in SI

I'd vote for him here.

[IrishEyes]

19. I will be voting for him again.

It is a conservative area with lots of families. I hope he is able to win again. I was sad when he lost the house seat.

[Polybius]

25. Marching in that protest in June 2020 did him in

What was he thinking?