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groundloop

(11,519 posts)
Tue Dec 7, 2021, 04:57 PM Dec 2021

Kellogg to permanently replace striking employees as workers reject new contract

Source: Reuters

Kellogg Co (K.N) said on Tuesday a majority of its U.S. cereal plant workers have voted against a new five-year contract, forcing it to hire permanent replacements as employees extend a strike that started more than two months ago.

Temporary replacements have already been working at the company's cereal plants in Michigan, Nebraska, Pennsylvania and Tennessee where 1,400 union members went on strike on Oct. 5 as their contracts expired and talks over payment and benefits stalled.

"Interest in the (permanent replacement) roles has been strong at all four plants, as expected. We expect some of the new hires to start with the company very soon," Kellogg spokesperson Kris Bahner said.

[snip]

The company said "unrealistic expectations" created by the union meant none of its six offers, including the latest one that was put to vote, which proposed wage increases and allowed all transitional employees with four or more years of service to move to legacy positions, came to fruition.

Read more: https://www.reuters.com/world/us/kellogg-permanently-replace-striking-workers-union-rejects-new-contract-2021-12-07/

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Kellogg to permanently replace striking employees as workers reject new contract (Original Post) groundloop Dec 2021 OP
No kellogs for me, then. Scrivener7 Dec 2021 #1
Evah! Major Nikon Dec 2021 #15
Me either!! PortTack Dec 2021 #16
Screw Kelloggs Sherman A1 Dec 2021 #2
Bad move Kellogg. OneCrazyDiamond Dec 2021 #3
Bad move why? NQAS Dec 2021 #8
No one wins OneCrazyDiamond Dec 2021 #13
Actually the owners of Kellogg's wins as do those that own any stock in it. cstanleytech Dec 2021 #35
Not sure I agree The Jungle 1 Dec 2021 #38
In that case why would anyone continue working there ? MichMan Dec 2021 #42
That is exactly the message. They don't have to work there. The Jungle 1 Dec 2021 #44
Perhaps in the immediate term. OneCrazyDiamond Dec 2021 #40
Wish I could rec your post - you got a lot of truth in there rurallib Dec 2021 #18
General Mills and Post cereals will get my business. pwb Dec 2021 #47
No more Kellogg for me either...nt wcmagumba Dec 2021 #4
Interesting that they aren't worried that "no one wants to work." Scrivener7 Dec 2021 #5
They said they already had temp workers in place. oldsoftie Dec 2021 #7
So, it appears that when the pay is decent, there is no worker shortage. Imagine! Scrivener7 Dec 2021 #17
The only actual worker shortage in this country is a willing to work for low wages worker one. cstanleytech Dec 2021 #23
Exactly. Delphinus Dec 2021 #36
My union Dad made it clear that he would always back me "no matter what" with two exceptions. Atticus Dec 2021 #6
Cheese-Its will be easy to replace in my household. Torchlight Dec 2021 #9
I don't eat any of there products as far as I know, not a cereal eater so makes it easier. nt yaesu Dec 2021 #12
Fuck them. IrishAfricanAmerican Dec 2021 #10
I remember Hostess shut down in '12 instead of negotiating with strikers yaesu Dec 2021 #11
This message was self-deleted by its author whathehell Dec 2021 #29
I switched from corn flakes to oatmeal from Bob's Red Mill (an employee owned company). NCjack Dec 2021 #14
Not sure what to think. You'd think by offer number six you'd have something close to acceptable Wingus Dingus Dec 2021 #19
I do not agree The Jungle 1 Dec 2021 #39
Thank you. Economic slaves are still slaves. nt duhneece Dec 2021 #45
Thank you. Economic slaves are still slaves. nt duhneece Dec 2021 #46
The corporation made minor concessions Farmer-Rick Dec 2021 #41
No Kellogg's in my house ever again... dixiechiken1 Dec 2021 #20
Hmmmmmmmmm... Dyedinthewoolliberal Dec 2021 #21
The only Kelloggs cereal I ever buy is Crispex Maeve Dec 2021 #22
A big part of the impasse is kellogg wanting to move plants out of the country questionseverything Dec 2021 #24
Well,.that does sound like a deal breaker.. whathehell Dec 2021 #28
Don't eat their Sugar & preservative heavy garbage 🤢 Ziggysmom Dec 2021 #25
Tony the Scab Tiger 🐅 Mawspam2 Dec 2021 #26
I don't buy kellogg's products Marthe48 Dec 2021 #27
My sign as a striking Teamster: NBachers Dec 2021 #30
Special K BigmanPigman Dec 2021 #31
I have always liked Kellogg Cereal. Never Again. These fools haven't got a clue. Stuart G Dec 2021 #32
That would be illegal. James48 Dec 2021 #33
That reads like its legal Sgent Dec 2021 #34
Every advertisement on the internet James48 Dec 2021 #48
In addition to what Sgent sait, the workers are no longer employed at Kelloggs. Angleae Dec 2021 #43
We'll see how this goes for Kellogg. Not too good, I imagine. Joinfortmill Dec 2021 #37

NQAS

(10,749 posts)
8. Bad move why?
Tue Dec 7, 2021, 05:23 PM
Dec 2021

Sure, from our perspective it's a bad move.

But there will be no fallout for Kellogg's. People will continue to buy their corn flakes. Heck, they may even see a spike in sales, just so the RWNJs could own the libs. Kellogg's doesn't care about its employees, and the scabs will learn that soon enough. And they may piss and moan, but they'll stick with the jobs until something better comes along. For Kellogg's, BFD. Good riddance to bad rubbish. Not even a hiccup on their share price today with this news.

There are no consequences to big business in this country. Elon Musk thumbs his nose at pretty much everyone, and the Teslas still roll off the assembly line. Heck, a whistleblower says that his solar panels catch fire. So what. He'll pay the penalties, out of petty cash, and move on. So fucking what. People hate FB and Instagram and still check in on both. Boeing built planes that crashed, and airlines still buy them and people still fly on them. Oil companies are raking in the dough even as oil prices come down a bit. Kellogg's suppliers will still sell wheat and corn and rye and barley and sugar and whatever. They'll still be able to buy the additives and preservatives. What's the downside to Kellogg's? People will badmouth them? Again, BFD. They're not even breaking a sweat.

cstanleytech

(26,293 posts)
35. Actually the owners of Kellogg's wins as do those that own any stock in it.
Wed Dec 8, 2021, 01:42 AM
Dec 2021

The employees and former employees are the big losers.

 

The Jungle 1

(4,552 posts)
38. Not sure I agree
Wed Dec 8, 2021, 10:09 AM
Dec 2021

The job sucks. Massive OT and low wages. The workers can do better.
There are many skilled jobs in these plants and that is where the company loses. No one can just walk into and industrial plant and understand all the equipment. Down time will cost management.

 

The Jungle 1

(4,552 posts)
44. That is exactly the message. They don't have to work there.
Wed Dec 8, 2021, 05:42 PM
Dec 2021

It is not so easy to just hire replacements. It will cost the company. Those workers own a lot of real knowledge of how the plant is run. A lot of companies failed when they ran away from the unions. (Mack Truck for one) A lot of union members financed company moves with wage cuts and still lost their jobs. These folks are being smart. Companies like to move locations slowly. Don't let them.
Bottom line, they lose their jobs either way so make it hard on the company. Force them to go all in.
Yes I have been down this road.

oldsoftie

(12,555 posts)
7. They said they already had temp workers in place.
Tue Dec 7, 2021, 05:15 PM
Dec 2021

I guess they'll be offered permanent jobs. And those type jobs pay well above average so the "worker shortage" probably wouldnt affect them. We have Frito Lay plant in my area & they NEVER fail to find workers.

cstanleytech

(26,293 posts)
23. The only actual worker shortage in this country is a willing to work for low wages worker one.
Tue Dec 7, 2021, 07:12 PM
Dec 2021

That is the real worker shortage.

Atticus

(15,124 posts)
6. My union Dad made it clear that he would always back me "no matter what" with two exceptions.
Tue Dec 7, 2021, 05:12 PM
Dec 2021

He said he would "break my plate" if I ever crossed a picket line or worked as a SCAB!

He never had to break my plate.

Torchlight

(3,341 posts)
9. Cheese-Its will be easy to replace in my household.
Tue Dec 7, 2021, 05:24 PM
Dec 2021

Pretty sure that's the only Kellogg's brand in our kitchen. Store brand works just as well and 22% less expensive.

yaesu

(8,020 posts)
11. I remember Hostess shut down in '12 instead of negotiating with strikers
Tue Dec 7, 2021, 05:29 PM
Dec 2021

Hostess Brands Inc. closed all 36 of its factories Friday and filed a motion in U.S. Bankruptcy Court in New York to immediately liquidate and sell its assets. ... A Hostess Brands spokesman said the Irving, Texas-based company's decision to shut down and liquidate is final, even if workers decide to end their walkout.

Though Kellogg's is much better off and can afford a living wage & pensions, surprised they can arbitrarily fire everyone like that.

Response to yaesu (Reply #11)

Wingus Dingus

(8,054 posts)
19. Not sure what to think. You'd think by offer number six you'd have something close to acceptable
Tue Dec 7, 2021, 06:36 PM
Dec 2021

to the union, but it sounds like the striking employees just maneuvered themselves out of jobs. Sometimes you can overplay your hand.

 

The Jungle 1

(4,552 posts)
39. I do not agree
Wed Dec 8, 2021, 10:18 AM
Dec 2021

The workers are being worked like slaves. The plants are constantly, purposely understaffed and the workers are doing 80 hour weeks. That is a horrendous abuse of people. Management work them like animals and say but look at all the money you are making. They have NO life so is it really worth it.
So it comes down to this: Fix it or fuck it.

Farmer-Rick

(10,185 posts)
41. The corporation made minor concessions
Wed Dec 8, 2021, 10:54 AM
Dec 2021

And claimed it was a huge compromise. They offered practically no changes to low wages, understaffing, mandatory overtime or off clock time.

So, no they didn't overplay their hand.

But corporations have all the power eversince Raygun betrayed the traffic control unions.

There was a time when corporations and their owners got the government to drop bombs on union workers. Thatcher sent armed police to beat up and jail striking workers. The government has always been a tool of the filthy rich and their profit extraction centers.

Dyedinthewoolliberal

(15,577 posts)
21. Hmmmmmmmmm...
Tue Dec 7, 2021, 06:48 PM
Dec 2021

I was part of my unions contract negotiating team for several years. Management often threatened and accused, one time even sending a company wide email, blaming the union for the impasse. Needless to say, they folded and we got a contract. An expired contract is still in effect until a new one is signed. I doubt they can get away with replacing workers. It's a bluff, imho

Maeve

(42,282 posts)
22. The only Kelloggs cereal I ever buy is Crispex
Tue Dec 7, 2021, 06:57 PM
Dec 2021

Around the holidays, because I like it better than Chex for making Chex Mix. Not this year (it's not even available due to the strike).

Chex wins this one.

questionseverything

(9,656 posts)
24. A big part of the impasse is kellogg wanting to move plants out of the country
Tue Dec 7, 2021, 07:26 PM
Dec 2021

I don’t want my cereal shipped in from somewhere else

whathehell

(29,067 posts)
28. Well,.that does sound like a deal breaker..
Tue Dec 7, 2021, 08:50 PM
Dec 2021

I don't understand: Why would they tbink workers would sign a contract that puts them out of a job?

Marthe48

(16,975 posts)
27. I don't buy kellogg's products
Tue Dec 7, 2021, 07:34 PM
Dec 2021

but I've noticed in the last few weeks, I can't get store brand products. I heard a long time ago that major brands often produce store brands. Same product in a different box.

I support the union and hope the rank and file keep their jobs. And factories stay in this country.

BigmanPigman

(51,609 posts)
31. Special K
Tue Dec 7, 2021, 10:20 PM
Dec 2021

Not so special and never will be in this former union rep's home!!! I walked the picket line as a sub. teacher. The scabs that crossed it did not get hired when the district finally hired new teachers. I was remebered by the teacbers and I was the one who got the permanant contract, the scabs got nothing.

Stuart G

(38,434 posts)
32. I have always liked Kellogg Cereal. Never Again. These fools haven't got a clue.
Tue Dec 7, 2021, 11:47 PM
Dec 2021

..Lots of Union People and sympathizers in the U.S.A. Stupid and sad thing to do.

Making yourself against unions forever. It is now who they are, and will always be.

..

James48

(4,436 posts)
33. That would be illegal.
Wed Dec 8, 2021, 12:53 AM
Dec 2021

Last edited Wed Dec 8, 2021, 11:12 PM - Edit history (1)

Under Michigan law, replacing striking workers with strike breakers is a misdemeanor.

SOLICITATION OF STRIKEBREAKERS (EXCERPT)
Act 150 of 1962


423.253 Strikes or lockouts; hiring and importing strikebreakers prohibited.
Sec. 3.

No person, partnership, firm or corporation, or officer or agent thereof, involved in a lawful strike or lockout shall hire and import or contract or arrange with any other person, partnership, agency, firm or corporation to hire and import from another state or country, for the purpose of strikebreaking, persons for employment in place of employees involved in the strike or lockout.

James48

(4,436 posts)
48. Every advertisement on the internet
Wed Dec 8, 2021, 11:12 PM
Dec 2021

Crosses state lines and international boundaries. And likely into space as well, where no other conflicting law prohibits it.

So, yes. Put a help wanted as on indeed.com, or Craigs List, and you are crossing state lines, and in violation of that law crossing state lines to hire strike breakers.

Angleae

(4,486 posts)
43. In addition to what Sgent sait, the workers are no longer employed at Kelloggs.
Wed Dec 8, 2021, 05:07 PM
Dec 2021

As such aren't actually "on strike" but instead protesters.

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