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Omaha Steve

(99,775 posts)
Wed Dec 8, 2021, 04:05 PM Dec 2021

California plans to be abortion sanctuary if Roe overturned

Source: AP

By ADAM BEAM

SACRAMENTO, Calif. (AP) — With more than two dozen states poised to ban abortion if the U.S. Supreme Court gives them the OK next year, California clinics and their allies in the state Legislature on Wednesday revealed a plan to make the state a “sanctuary” for those seeking reproductive care, including possibly paying for travel, lodging and procedures for people from other states.

The California Future of Abortion Council, made up of more than 40 abortion providers and advocacy groups, released a list of 45 recommendations for the state to consider if the high court overturns Roe v. Wade — the 48-year-old decision that forbids states from outlawing abortion.

The recommendations are not just a liberal fantasy. Some of the state’s most important policymakers helped write them, including Toni Atkins, the San Diego Democrat who leads the state Senate and attended multiple meetings.

Democratic Gov. Gavin Newsom started the group himself and in an interview last week with The Associated Press said some of the report’s details will be included in his budget proposal in January.



FILE - People rally in support of abortion rights at the state Capitol in Sacramento, Calif., May 21, 2019. On Wednesday Dec. 8, 2021, a group of abortion providers and advocacy groups recommended California should use public money to bring people here from other states for abortion services should the U.S. Supreme Court overturn Roe v. Wade. The report has the backing of key legislative leaders, including Senate President Pro Team Toni Atkins, a Democrat. (AP Photo/Rich Pedroncelli, File)


Read more: https://apnews.com/article/abortion-california-sanctuary-625a118108bcda253196697c83548d5b

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California plans to be abortion sanctuary if Roe overturned (Original Post) Omaha Steve Dec 2021 OP
K. To. The. R. musette_sf Dec 2021 #1
Thank you RayStar Dec 2021 #2
illinois will do the same. we already have a trigger law if rowe falls, making it law here. mopinko Dec 2021 #3
You beat me to it. n/t murielm99 Dec 2021 #9
Didn't New York State also do this? yellowdogintexas Dec 2021 #10
New York did this. ShazzieB Dec 2021 #15
back in the day a lot of women went to wisconsin. mopinko Dec 2021 #20
Yes... I believe the law is now codified PortTack Dec 2021 #12
Nice thought on CA's part but what of women who can't afford to travel for an abortion? dutch777 Dec 2021 #4
Per the article.... Gregory Peccary Dec 2021 #5
Donations will be appreciated. Hortensis Dec 2021 #6
Although I do not see the 6 assholes in the UC SC fully . ..... Lovie777 Dec 2021 #7
Pro-life pro-gun states might see a population decline bucolic_frolic Dec 2021 #8
AWESOME plus bluestarone Dec 2021 #11
You can do so now by donating to any abortion fund. WhiskeyGrinder Dec 2021 #19
Very good and expected. LiberatedUSA Dec 2021 #13
As a Californian, I am so happy to hear this! PlanetBev Dec 2021 #14
You might be interested in this. ShazzieB Dec 2021 #17
Thanks for the info, Shazzie PlanetBev Dec 2021 #22
will women have bounties on them from all the fucked up states Skittles Dec 2021 #16
Yea, crazy Gilead-esque shit. Eom Karma13612 Dec 2021 #21
So are we. paleotn Dec 2021 #18
Michigan AG Nessel said she will not enforce our pre-Roe law. roamer65 Dec 2021 #23

mopinko

(70,268 posts)
3. illinois will do the same. we already have a trigger law if rowe falls, making it law here.
Wed Dec 8, 2021, 04:19 PM
Dec 2021

one of the reasons we didnt close a bridge from missouri, which was talked about last year, was that planned parenthood had just opened a huge clinic right over the bridge.

yellowdogintexas

(22,280 posts)
10. Didn't New York State also do this?
Wed Dec 8, 2021, 05:17 PM
Dec 2021

This is totally a throwback to the pre-Roe world.

If you could afford it, you were on a plane to California, Illinois, NY and a couple of other places that I can't remember. WA and OR maybe, or HI?

I know people who did that

ShazzieB

(16,559 posts)
15. New York did this.
Wed Dec 8, 2021, 06:32 PM
Dec 2021

I'm not sure about any of the other places you mentioned, but abortion was illegal in Illinois until the Roe decision. I had to fly to New York myself to get a safe, legal abortion in September 1972. (Roe happened about 5 months later.) The clinic I used had so many out of state patients flying in that they actually ran a shuttle service to and from the major airports.

Nowadays, it's a different matter. Illinois has already become an abortion haven for people inI neighboring states who need an abortion, and we fixed our trigger laws so that if Roe falls, it will still be legal here.

mopinko

(70,268 posts)
20. back in the day a lot of women went to wisconsin.
Wed Dec 8, 2021, 07:09 PM
Dec 2021

funny now to think of wis as more liberal than il, but it sure used to be.
used to be a bus to a clinic over the border from my small town.

dutch777

(3,050 posts)
4. Nice thought on CA's part but what of women who can't afford to travel for an abortion?
Wed Dec 8, 2021, 04:21 PM
Dec 2021

My concern remains, whether state or federal action (or inaction) bans or severely restricts abortions, we'll just roll back to the bad old days that I grew up in where there were abortion purveyors, many not even medically trained, performing back alley procedures. And women suffered and died. Not to mention the stress, stigma, lack of support, legal consequences and all the rest that will go with that if they can't afford to go to CA but still want an abortion. On this issue alone, I am constantly amazed on the number of women who can support GOP candidates.

Gregory Peccary

(490 posts)
5. Per the article....
Wed Dec 8, 2021, 04:25 PM
Dec 2021

"including possibly paying for travel, lodging and procedures for people from other states."

Lovie777

(12,356 posts)
7. Although I do not see the 6 assholes in the UC SC fully . .....
Wed Dec 8, 2021, 04:32 PM
Dec 2021

overturning Roe v Wade, but it will be extremely rough for 95% of the women in states that passes laws on shorten very shorter weeks concerning when a women can have an abortion, and the day after pill will not be legal (black markets will make a killing). Of course the well to do will have no problems, but the poor will have problems, plus many of those states have cut back Medicaid (Medi-Cal here in California). Therefor, besides no abortions, these women who are monetary struggling will have no healthcare to boot and since the GQP don't believe in entitlements for these struggling women and children -

It's just F-uped.

The so called "Christian" RWers will be on California like white on rice.

bucolic_frolic

(43,363 posts)
8. Pro-life pro-gun states might see a population decline
Wed Dec 8, 2021, 04:41 PM
Dec 2021

Not to mention brain drain, capital flight, and some business departures. Once you go down this rat hole, it's like a currency devaluation because it is a decrease in freedom and lifestyle. Third-world countries that have experienced inflation, currency valuation experience all those same solutions. You can only fool the public for so long. It just seems like eternity.

 

LiberatedUSA

(1,666 posts)
13. Very good and expected.
Wed Dec 8, 2021, 05:53 PM
Dec 2021

The new Not-So-United States where the new Underground Railroad for women exists to get them from “pro life” states to Women’s Rights states.

PlanetBev

(4,104 posts)
14. As a Californian, I am so happy to hear this!
Wed Dec 8, 2021, 06:30 PM
Dec 2021

I’ve been so worried about women in oppressive states. Can’t wait to donate! Excited to hear about different groups organizing across the country.

The Bear Republic….fighting Nazis!

ShazzieB

(16,559 posts)
17. You might be interested in this.
Wed Dec 8, 2021, 06:46 PM
Dec 2021

The National Network of Abortion Funds maintains a database of organizations in each state that work to remove financial and logistical barriers to abortion access. Some of them work with clinics to help pay for abortions, while some of them offer support such as transportation, childcare, translation, doula services, and somewhere to stay for those who have to travel to get an abortion.

Those who want to support abortion access can donate directly to NNAF at their site or find information there about regional, state, and local organizations to donate to: https://abortionfunds.org/

roamer65

(36,747 posts)
23. Michigan AG Nessel said she will not enforce our pre-Roe law.
Wed Dec 8, 2021, 09:42 PM
Dec 2021

There is also talk here of a ballot proposal to put Roe into our state constitution.

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