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mahatmakanejeeves

(57,545 posts)
Thu Dec 9, 2021, 09:32 AM Dec 2021

New jobless claims totaled 184,000 last week, reaching lowest since 1969

Source: Yahoo! Finance

Yahoo Finance

New jobless claims totaled 184,000 last week, reaching lowest since 1969

Emily McCormick · Reporter
Thu, December 9, 2021, 8:31 AM · 3 min read

New initial jobless claims improved much more than expected last week to reach the lowest level in more than five decades, further pointing to the tightness of the present labor market as many employers seek to retain workers.

The Labor Department released its weekly jobless claims report on Thursday. Here were the main metrics from the print, compared to consensus estimates compiled by Bloomberg:

Stay ahead of the market
Initial unemployment claims, week ended Dec. 4: 184,000 vs. 220,000 expected and an upwardly revised 227,000 during prior week

Continuing claims, week ended Nov. 27: 1.992 million vs. 1.910 million expected and a downwardly revised 1.954 million during prior week

Jobless claims decreased once more after a brief tick higher in late November. At 184,000, initial jobless claims were at their lowest level since Sept. 1969.

"The consensus always looked a bit timid, in light of the behavior of unadjusted claims in the week after Thanksgiving in previous years when the holiday fell on the 25th, but the drop this time was much bigger than in those years, and bigger than implied by the recent trend," Ian Shepherdson, chief economist for Pantheon Macroeconomics, wrote in an email Thursday morning. "A correction next week seems likely, but the trend in claims clearly is falling rapidly, reflecting the extreme tightness of the labor market and the rebound in GDP growth now underway."

After more than a year-and-a-half of the COVID-19 pandemic in the U.S., jobless claims have begun to hover below even their pre-pandemic levels. New claims were averaging about 220,000 per week throughout 2019. At the height of the pandemic and stay-in-place restrictions, new claims had come in at more than 6.1 million during the week ended April 3, 2020.

Continuing claims, which track the number of those still receiving unemployment benefits via regular state programs, have also come down sharply from pandemic-era highs, and held below 2 million last week.

{snip}

Read more: https://finance.yahoo.com/news/weekly-unemployment-claims-week-ended-dec-4-2021-192034644.html



Here's the original article, from 8:32 this morning:

Yahoo Finance

Jobless claims: Another 184,000 Americans filed new claims last week

Emily McCormick · Reporter
Thu, December 9, 2021, 8:31 AM

New initial jobless claims improved much more than expected last week, further pointing to the tightness of the present labor market as many employers seek to retain workers.

The Labor Department released its weekly jobless claims report on Thursday. Here were the main metrics from the print, compared to consensus estimates compiled by Bloomberg:

Initial unemployment claims, week ended Dec. 4: 184,000 vs. 220,000 expected and an upwardly revised 227,000 during prior week

-- Continuing claims, week ended Nov. 27: 1.992 million vs. 1.910 million expected and a downwardly revised 1.954 million during prior week

-- Jobless claims decreased once more after a brief tick higher last week.

After more than a year-and-a-half of the COVID-19 pandemic in the U.S., jobless claims have begun to hover at their pre-virus levels. New claims were averaging about 220,000 per week throughout 2019. At the height of the pandemic and stay-in-place restrictions, new claims had come in at more than 6.1 million during the week ended April 3, 2020.

Continuing claims, which track the number of those still receiving unemployment benefits via regular state programs, have also come down sharply from pandemic-era highs, and reached a March 2020 low of just below 2 million last week.

"Beyond weekly moves, the overall trend in filings remains downward and confirms that businesses facing labor shortages are holding onto workers," wrote Rubeela Farooqi, chief U.S. economist for High Frequency Economics, in a note on Wednesday.

{snip}

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Updated (at about 8:40}: Emily McCormick has already rewritten the first paragraph. It now reads:

"New initial jobless claims improved much more than expected last week to reach the lowest level in more than five decades, further pointing to the tightness of the present labor market as many employers seek to retain workers."

There was no update time shown for this.

Hat tip, Johnny2X2X

Weekly jobless claims hit lowest level since 1969

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100216128093

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Here are this morning's banner and Emily McCormick's placeholder article from yesterday afternoon.

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COMING UP Jobless claims preview: Another 220,000 Americans likely filed new claims last week
Check back for results at 8:30 a.m. ET

Yahoo Finance
Jobless claims preview: Another 220,000 Americans likely filed new claims last week

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/weekly-unemployment-claims-week-ended-dec-4-2021-192034644.html

Emily McCormick · Reporter
Wed, December 8, 2021, 2:20 PM

New initial jobless claims are expected to hold at pre-pandemic levels, further pointing to the tightness of the present labor market as many employers seek to retain workers.

The Labor Department is set to release its weekly jobless claims report on Thursday. Here are the main metrics expected from the print, compared to consensus estimates compiled by Bloomberg:

-- Initial unemployment claims, week ended Dec. 4: 220,000 expected, 222,000 during prior week

-- Continuing claims, week ended Nov. 27: 1.910 million expected, 1.956 million during prior week

Jobless claims are expected to decrease once more after a brief tick higher last week. In mid-November, new weekly claims had plunged to their lowest level since 1969, coming in at 194,000.

Stay ahead of the market
After more than a year-and-a-half of the COVID-19 pandemic in the U.S., jobless claims have begun to hover at their pre-virus levels. New claims were averaging about 220,000 per week throughout 2019. At the height of the pandemic and stay-in-place restrictions, new claims had come in at more than 6.1 million during the week ended April 3, 2020.

Continuing claims, which track the number of those still receiving unemployment benefits via regular state programs, have also come down sharply from pandemic-era highs, and reached a March 2020 low of just below 2 million last week.

"Beyond weekly moves, the overall trend in filings remains downward and confirms that businesses facing labor shortages are holding onto workers," wrote Rubeela Farooqi, chief U.S. economist for High Frequency Economics, in a note on Wednesday.
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New jobless claims totaled 184,000 last week, reaching lowest since 1969 (Original Post) mahatmakanejeeves Dec 2021 OP
From the source: mahatmakanejeeves Dec 2021 #1
Notice headline has beatdown usage of "another"; then hid "improved much more than expected" inside. Bernardo de La Paz Dec 2021 #2
That's the source the Koch brothers pay me to use. I don't have any choice. NT mahatmakanejeeves Dec 2021 #3
I was noting it as an example of RW bias in the media. Sorry I was not clear on that. Bernardo de La Paz Dec 2021 #4
NEW HEADLINE: "New jobless claims totaled 184,000 last week, reaching lowest since 1969" progree Dec 2021 #5
You're permitted to update the headline, no rule in LBN that one must stick to the original headline progree Dec 2021 #6
I see. She keeps updating the article, but the update time doesn't change. mahatmakanejeeves Dec 2021 #8
The Total U.S. Stock Market Index is down 0.64% as of 2 PM ET. Apparently traders are progree Dec 2021 #7
Here's how the story appears at 2:13. There is no change in the timestamp. mahatmakanejeeves Dec 2021 #9
Edit - thanks, i just saw the OP title update 😊❤️ progree Dec 2021 #10
She changed the first paragraph within about five minutes of posting this morning. mahatmakanejeeves Dec 2021 #11
I hope you don't think anyone is expecting you to keep monitoring the story and title progree Dec 2021 #12
Hmm, The Total U.S. Stock Market closed down 1.07%, apparently this wasn't a market mover progree Dec 2021 #13
if you want a job right now, you have a job -- end of story cadoman Dec 2021 #14
The Associated Press goes with the sensational headline again. mahatmakanejeeves Dec 2021 #15

mahatmakanejeeves

(57,545 posts)
1. From the source:
Thu Dec 9, 2021, 09:37 AM
Dec 2021
https://www.dol.gov/ui/data.pdf

News Release

Connect with DOL at
https://blog.dol.gov

TRANSMISSION OF MATERIALS IN THIS RELEASE IS EMBARGOED UNTIL
8:30 A.M. (Eastern) Thursday, December 9, 2021

UNEMPLOYMENT INSURANCE WEEKLY CLAIMS

SEASONALLY ADJUSTED DATA


In the week ending December 4, the advance figure for seasonally adjusted initial claims was 184,000, a decrease of 43,000 from the previous week's revised level. This is the lowest level for initial claims since September 6, 1969 when it was 182,000. The previous week's level was revised up by 5,000 from 222,000 to 227,000. The 4-week moving average was 218,750, a decrease of 21,250 from the previous week's revised average. This is the lowest level for this average since March 7, 2020 when it was 215,250. The previous week's average was revised up by 1,250 from 238,750 to 240,000.

The advance seasonally adjusted insured unemployment rate was 1.5 percent for the week ending November 27, an increase of 0.1 percentage point from the previous week's unrevised rate. The advance number for seasonally adjusted insured unemployment during the week ending November 27 was 1,992,000, an increase of 38,000 from the previous week's revised level. The previous week's level was revised down by 2,000 from 1,956,000 to 1,954,000. The 4-week moving average was 2,027,500, a decrease of 54,250 from the previous week's revised average. This is the lowest level for this average since March 14, 2020 when it was 1,730,750. The previous week's average was revised down by 2,500 from 2,084,250 to 2,081,750.

{snip}

UNADJUSTED DATA

{snip}

The total number of continued weeks claimed for benefits in all programs for the week ending November 20 was 1,947,598, a decrease of 350,527 from the previous week. There were 19,575,088 weekly claims filed for benefits in all programs in the comparable week in 2020.

{snip the rest of the twelve-page news release, until the end}

Weekly Claims Archives
Weekly Claims Data

U.S. Department of Labor news materials are accessible at http://www.dol.gov. The Department's Reasonable Accommodation Resource Center converts Departmental information and documents into alternative formats, which include Braille and large print. For alternative format requests, please contact the Department at (202) 693-7828 (voice) or (800) 877-8339 (federal relay).

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Bernardo de La Paz

(49,020 posts)
4. I was noting it as an example of RW bias in the media. Sorry I was not clear on that.
Thu Dec 9, 2021, 02:16 PM
Dec 2021

I am well aware LBN requires exact title of source. Hence it would the source. Sorry that I didn't write that point out and clearly. My fault.

Koch snark not needed. Sorry you felt there might have been any implication you wrote it. My mistake again.


progree

(10,909 posts)
5. NEW HEADLINE: "New jobless claims totaled 184,000 last week, reaching lowest since 1969"
Thu Dec 9, 2021, 02:28 PM
Dec 2021

------------------------------------------------
(52 years ago). Note as a bonus the "Another" is gone

Same link as in OP: https://finance.yahoo.com/news/weekly-unemployment-claims-week-ended-dec-4-2021-192034644.html

progree

(10,909 posts)
7. The Total U.S. Stock Market Index is down 0.64% as of 2 PM ET. Apparently traders are
Thu Dec 9, 2021, 03:04 PM
Dec 2021

not particularly delighted by this news. (Wilshire 5000)
https://finance.yahoo.com/quote/%5EW5000?p=%5EW5000

I chose the Total U.S. stock market index because I got tired of waving my arms and explaining that the S&P 500 has 85% of the market cap of the total U.S. stock market index and their performance is very very close and the S&P 500 is better known and blah blah. Why not just use a total U.S. market index instead? So am shifting to that whenever I can.

EDITED TO ADD. Oh poop, I see the Wilshire 5000 index is delayed 15 minutes while the S&P 500 is real time. So back to the S&P 500, at least for real-time quotes -- down 0.27% as of 2:11 PM ET.

mahatmakanejeeves

(57,545 posts)
9. Here's how the story appears at 2:13. There is no change in the timestamp.
Thu Dec 9, 2021, 03:14 PM
Dec 2021
Yahoo Finance

New jobless claims totaled 184,000 last week, reaching lowest since 1969

Emily McCormick · Reporter
Thu, December 9, 2021, 8:31 AM · 3 min read

New initial jobless claims improved much more than expected last week to reach the lowest level in more than five decades, further pointing to the tightness of the present labor market as many employers seek to retain workers.

The Labor Department released its weekly jobless claims report on Thursday. Here were the main metrics from the print, compared to consensus estimates compiled by Bloomberg:

Initial unemployment claims, week ended Dec. 4: 184,000 vs. 220,000 expected and an upwardly revised 227,000 during prior week

Continuing claims, week ended Nov. 27: 1.992 million vs. 1.910 million expected and a downwardly revised 1.954 million during prior week

Jobless claims decreased once more after a brief tick higher in late November. At 184,000, initial jobless claims were at their lowest level since Sept. 1969.

"The consensus always looked a bit timid, in light of the behavior of unadjusted claims in the week after Thanksgiving in previous years when the holiday fell on the 25th, but the drop this time was much bigger than in those years, and bigger than implied by the recent trend," Ian Shepherdson, chief economist for Pantheon Macroeconomics, wrote in an email Thursday morning. "A correction next week seems likely, but the trend in claims clearly is falling rapidly, reflecting the extreme tightness of the labor market and the rebound in GDP growth now underway."

After more than a year-and-a-half of the COVID-19 pandemic in the U.S., jobless claims have begun to hover below even their pre-pandemic levels. New claims were averaging about 220,000 per week throughout 2019. At the height of the pandemic and stay-in-place restrictions, new claims had come in at more than 6.1 million during the week ended April 3, 2020.

Continuing claims, which track the number of those still receiving unemployment benefits via regular state programs, have also come down sharply from pandemic-era highs, and held below 2 million last week.

{snip}

mahatmakanejeeves

(57,545 posts)
11. She changed the first paragraph within about five minutes of posting this morning.
Thu Dec 9, 2021, 03:29 PM
Dec 2021

To include the upbeat stuff about 1969. There was not then, nor has there been now, any notification that the story has been updated.

I dumped the details in the OP.

I saw that other thread. I do that myself, so I'll try to get over it.

Thanks for ... you know.

progree

(10,909 posts)
12. I hope you don't think anyone is expecting you to keep monitoring the story and title
Thu Dec 9, 2021, 03:47 PM
Dec 2021

throughout the whole day (edit: or for any amount of time). The title is something I noticed and was just letting you know and that I thought it was an important change.

By the way, my thanks expressed elsewhere,

"thanks much for keeping us posted on the financial and economic news"

was meant very sincerely. I'm glad that you and BumRushDaShow and others post these economic news OPs in LBN and elsewhere so I don't have to ... I only rarely post OPs because of some of the comments and the amount of research I have to do to deal with them sometimes.

(Speaking of the other weekly jobless claims story in LBN that was posted an hour and a half after yours) I alert on dupes in LBN not as a favor to anybody or because I think dupes are a crime against humanity, but because I think the no-dupe rule in LBN is a good rule and so I do alerts. So that LBN is not clogged up with a number of versions of the same story for several stories; I don't want to have to wade through all that when I'm just trying to get updated on what's been going on lately, and I think most others feel the same way.

I've posted dupes in LBN in the past, it happens to almost everyone who posts in LBN more than a few times. I've gotten over it too when someone posted an LBN dupe of one of my LBN OP's.

progree

(10,909 posts)
13. Hmm, The Total U.S. Stock Market closed down 1.07%, apparently this wasn't a market mover
Thu Dec 9, 2021, 08:33 PM
Dec 2021

or maybe what could be considered another sign of a "tight" labor market may have thrown cold water on investor sentiment.

Wilshire 5000 Total (U.S. Stock) Market Index https://finance.yahoo.com/quote/%5EW5000?p=%5EW5000

https://www.investopedia.com/terms/w/wilshire5000equityindex.asp
" and is widely regarded as the best single measure of the overall U.S. equity market."


A 1.07% change is equivalent to 383 DJIA points.

cadoman

(792 posts)
14. if you want a job right now, you have a job -- end of story
Fri Dec 10, 2021, 01:54 AM
Dec 2021

Excellent and calming Democratic leadership, mandatory vaccination and masking, and taking COVID seriously turned the economy around. Who is even surprised?

HELP WANTED signs are everywhere. Recruiters are ringing. Wages are going up and unhappy employees are walking. I know one person who financially turned their life around and paid off all their debt this year.

Really some of the best job opportunities since the .com days, at least from what I'm seeing. Workers have a lot of leverage.

mahatmakanejeeves

(57,545 posts)
15. The Associated Press goes with the sensational headline again.
Fri Dec 10, 2021, 09:34 AM
Dec 2021

Last week, the AP talked up the employment number from the household survey.

Sat Dec 4, 2021: The Associated Press went with the 1.1 million number.

This week, the number didn't just go down; it plunged.

The number of Americans applying for unemployment benefits plunged last week to the lowest level in 52 years, more evidence that the U.S. job market is recovering from last year's coronavirus recession.


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