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SouthBayDem

(32,044 posts)
Thu Dec 9, 2021, 10:13 AM Dec 2021

China committed genocide against Uyghurs, independent tribunal rules

Source: BBC

China has committed genocide against the Uyghur people in Xinjiang, an unofficial UK-based tribunal has found.

The Uyghur Tribunal cited birth control and sterilisation measures allegedly carried out by the state against the Uyghurs as the primary reason for reaching its conclusion on Thursday.

Sir Geoffrey Nice, a prominent British barrister who chaired the tribunal hearings, said its panel was satisfied China had "affected a deliberate, systematic and concerted policy" to bring about "long-term reduction of Uyghur and other ethnic minority populations". He added that the panel believed senior officials including the Chinese president Xi Jinping bore "primary responsibility" for the abuses against Muslim minorities in the Xinjiang region.

The tribunal's findings have no legal force and are not binding on ministers, but its organisers said at the outset they intended to add to the body of evidence around the allegations against China and reach an independent conclusion on the question of genocide.

Read more: https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-china-59595952

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China committed genocide against Uyghurs, independent tribunal rules (Original Post) SouthBayDem Dec 2021 OP
Nothing meaningful will happen, OneCrazyDiamond Dec 2021 #1
Should we bring back our dirty manufacturing to our country? JustABozoOnThisBus Dec 2021 #2
Perhaps. OneCrazyDiamond Dec 2021 #3
K&R ck4829 Dec 2021 #4
Necessary nitpicking: China does harsh repression, not genocide. TomWilm Dec 2021 #5
...intentional physical destruction of a national, ethnic, racial, or religious group.... cntrfthrs Dec 2021 #6
And China gives the middle finger to the tribunal sakabatou Dec 2021 #7
it's not an independent tribunal soryang Dec 2021 #8

JustABozoOnThisBus

(23,356 posts)
2. Should we bring back our dirty manufacturing to our country?
Thu Dec 9, 2021, 12:27 PM
Dec 2021

The air around Detroit and Pittsburgh has improved greatly in the last fifty years.

It's an interesting puzzle about trade-offs.

OneCrazyDiamond

(2,032 posts)
3. Perhaps.
Thu Dec 9, 2021, 01:45 PM
Dec 2021

Our environmental laws would make for cleaner manufacturing then over there. Are folks here willing to pay the price difference for the environments sake? I am, and do.

TomWilm

(1,832 posts)
5. Necessary nitpicking: China does harsh repression, not genocide.
Thu Dec 9, 2021, 06:39 PM
Dec 2021
Please all, use other words to describe these crimes of China. Genocide is a very specific juridical term, that should only be used for the gravest of crimes. To use it now like the United States government has done, is reckless behavior, undermining the gravity of actual genocides!

Genocide is defined under international law by the UN Genocide Convention (1948). In the past few decades, the leading UN courts have confirmed that the definition requires proof to a very high standard of the intentional physical destruction of a national, ethnic, racial, or religious group.
The definition specifies that one of five acts must be perpetrated. Obviously, killing tops the list. The State Department’s report on China says there were “numerous reports” of killings, but that “few or no details were available,” and cites only one case – that of a Uighur man detained since 2017.
Technically, genocide can be proven even without evidence that people were killed. But because courts require proof of intent to destroy the group physically, it is hard to make the case in the absence of proof of large-scale killings.
This is especially true when there is no direct evidence of genocidal intent, for example in the form of policy statements, but merely circumstantial evidence, what international courts refer to as a “pattern of conduct.”
nternational courts have repeatedly said that where genocide charges are based only upon inferences drawn from a pattern of conduct, alternative explanations must be ruled out definitively.
That’s why the International Court of Justice rejected in 2015 the genocide charge against Serbia and the counter-charge against Croatia, despite evidence of brutal ethnic cleansing in Croatia. ...
 

cntrfthrs

(15 posts)
6. ...intentional physical destruction of a national, ethnic, racial, or religious group....
Thu Dec 9, 2021, 11:16 PM
Dec 2021

Maybe the USFEDGOV needs to clean its own backyard before accusing other countries....ie: north and south America's indigenous peoples...

soryang

(3,299 posts)
8. it's not an independent tribunal
Fri Dec 10, 2021, 12:35 AM
Dec 2021

it was initiated and funded by the World Uyghur Congress which in turn is funded by the US government.

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