Trump Lawyer Wrote Memo Arguing Pence Should 'Stop the Count' of Biden Electors
Source: rollingstone.com
December 10, 2021 5:37PM ET
Jenna Ellis far-fetched legal argument dated the day before the Jan. 6 riot was delivered to Jay Sekulow, one of then-President Trumps outside attorneys
By William Vaillancourt
Saul Loeb/Pool/AP
Trump campaign lawyer Jenna Ellis wrote a memo dated the day before the Jan. 6 attack on the Capitol arguing that then-Vice President Mike Pence should refuse to count presidential electors from states won by Joe Biden.
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Trump Lawyer Wrote Memo Arguing Pence Should Stop the Count of Biden Electors http://dlvr.it/SF89bl #Politics #PoliticsNews
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Vice President Mike Pence officiates as a joint session of the House and Senate convenes to confirm the Electoral College votes cast in November's election, at the Capitol in Washington, Wednesday, Jan. 6, 2021. (Saul Loeb/Pool via AP)
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NEW: Trump campaign lawyer Jenna Ellis authored two memos in the week before Jan. 6 arguing that Pence could prevent Biden's victory.
Read them here. Story and details w/ @woodruffbets
Trump campaign lawyer authored two memos claiming Pence could halt Bidens victory
In one previously unreported memo, Jenna Ellis delivered a technical and far-fetched legal argument to another of the former president's outside lawyers.
https://www.politico.com/news/2021/12/10/trump-lawyer-pence-biden-524088
By BETSY WOODRUFF SWAN and KYLE CHENEY
Updated: 12/10/2021 01:00 PM EST
A Donald Trump campaign lawyer wrote two legal memos in the week before the Jan. 6 Capitol attack that claimed then-Vice President Mike Pence had the authority to refuse to count presidential electors from states that delivered Joe Biden the White House.
The memos from then-Trump lawyer Jenna Ellis, which contain widely disputed legal theories about Pences ability to stop a Biden presidency, underscore Ellis promotion of extreme arguments that she promulgated amid Trump's effort to reverse the election results. Her actions have remained largely below the radar as House investigators probe Trumps inner circle.
A Dec. 31 Ellis memo delivered to Trumps office suggested that Pence who was constitutionally responsible for presiding over Congress counting of electoral votes on Jan. 6 should simply refuse to open envelopes from states whose election results Trump considered to be fraudulent. That memo was described by ABC reporter Jonathan Karl in his recent book Betrayal. POLITICO is publishing it in full for the first time.
In a second, previously unreported memo dated Jan. 5, Ellis made a more technical legal argument that she delivered to Jay Sekulow, one of Trump's outside lawyers. Sekulow represented Trump during his first impeachment and in a series of legal battles during his administration, but he had minimal involvement in Trumps election litigation. The exception was an early November Supreme Court case regarding Pennsylvanias mail-in ballots..............................
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One of the memos was first revealed by @jonkarl
in his recent book, Betrayal. We're publishing in full here.
The second, to Trump outside counsel Jay Sekulow on Jan. 5, is previously unreported.
Both track with public statements Ellis made at the time.
https://politico.com/f/?id=0000017d
Ellis says "at no time" did she call for overturning the election.
"As part of my role as a campaign lawyer and counsel for President Trump, I explored legal options that might be available within the context of the U.S. Constitution and statutory law.
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cstanleytech
(26,322 posts)jmowreader
(50,566 posts)cstanleytech
(26,322 posts)disbarment would still be on the table as a possible result.
mahatmakanejeeves
(57,621 posts)Link to tweet
tanyev
(42,623 posts)*snort*
Alexander Of Assyria
(7,839 posts)Fake legal memo for a fake man, its always fake with these guys now, all they got.
Pathetic.
gab13by13
(21,408 posts)to get on the Supreme Court.
gab13by13
(21,408 posts)1. Is one of her documents the 36 page power point memo that Meadows turned over to the select committee or was that another coup blueprint? How many people were there writing up plans to carry out a coup? The 36 page PowerPoint memo was supposedly to be shown to several members of Congress pre 1/6.
2. Should Merrick Garland have the FBI interview Jenna Ellis, or is she just another person for the select committee to subpoena? When is it time for the FBI to get involved? That poor election worker in Georgia has been threatened for a year now and all that the FBI has done is tell her to move out of her house.
muriel_volestrangler
(101,368 posts)As far as the law went, there were no states in dispute by then. Trump and the Kraken lost, time after time. There were no alternate electors with any standing - not even wingnut Republicans had dared to defy their state courts', or the federal courts', findings that the election was OK.
She was effectively saying that since 6 states had men with pencils rammed up their noses shouting "Fnah! Fnah! I'm an Electoral College member! Wibble!", then the US should ignore the actual electors from those states.
gab13by13
(21,408 posts)The Kraken lawyers, even though their law suits were frivolous, to say the least, they went through the proper channels, the courts.
These blueprints for a coup we are seeing were clandestine illegal suggestions how people could overturn the results of a valid election.
Huge difference in the Kraken law suits and the coup blueprints. IMO the FBI should be talking with Ellis and Clark and Eastman and other lawyers.
bucolic_frolic
(43,311 posts)that results were tabulated in the states, certified in the states, sent to the Capitol and finalized in a grand ritual and ceremony worthy of the Republic. While there's room for shenanigans along route there's also immense anticipation and social/public pressure to complete the ceremony as planned. They were willing to fuck with all of that.
The Unmitigated Gall
(3,835 posts)She should face ethics charges and possible disbarment for this.
llashram
(6,265 posts)want a Hitler. And this mini-me is incompetent, inarticulate, a sexual predator, and a narcissistic psychopath, openly displayed?
Oh, what the hell am I thinking? Money of course. 65 million believe in the clown that posed as POTUS(Putin pulled the strings)so they, in trumps name can continue to soak the poor to line their pockets. They have4 years of a leader who filled their coffers by spreading fear and hate of liberals, all Democrats, and fear of the "others". 'Others' are those south of our borders and ALL POC in this country. Except for those ass-kissing idiot traitors like Herman Cain, Ben Carson, and Kanye West, et al.
certainot
(9,090 posts)sekulow has radio show on 500 stations.....
Bayard
(22,168 posts)What is so hard to understand about that? "We don't want to," is not a valid argument. What the Big Lie has done to this country is criminally crazy, and should be prosecuted as such.
C Moon
(12,221 posts)Probably a nazi racist.
I hope she gets thrown in the slammer.
Paladin
(28,276 posts)Some time in my lifetime would be nice...
keithbvadu2
(36,937 posts)Pence wanted to. He even consulted with Dan Quayle.
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monkeyman1
(5,109 posts)keithbvadu2
(36,937 posts)Our GOP Taliban are like the Afghan Taliban.
They control the religion which controls the extremists of that religion.
Or the extremists control the religion for their own benefit.
Just like the GOP.
FakeNoose
(32,777 posts)None of them were employed in the White House. Where did these people come from? Who brought them in and gave them the authority to start an insurgency? I'm talking about Jenna Ellis, Sydney Powell, John Eastman, Jay Sekulow, even Rudy Giuliani - they're all seditious traitors and none of them were hired by normal means. None of them were given standard security clearances ... and yet, here we are.