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speak easy

(9,324 posts)
Mon Dec 13, 2021, 08:41 AM Dec 2021

Covid: First UK death recorded with Omicron variant

Source: BBC

At least one person in the UK has died with the Omicron coronavirus variant, the prime minister has said.

Boris Johnson said the new variant was also resulting in hospital admissions and the "best thing" people could do was get their booster jab.

Visiting a vaccination clinic in London, he said people should set aside the idea Omicron was a milder variant.

On Sunday, the PM set a new target for all adults in England to be offered a booster by the end of the month.

Read more: https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-59639007



There is no evidence (so far) that Omicron causes more severe disease than Delta amongst double vaccinated people, but a whole lot of evidence that a the booster is necessary to protect against new infections. It is the pace of infections that will ultimately put pressure on the hospital system.
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cstanleytech

(26,320 posts)
1. We all know the virus can kill people so not sure if this is LBN worthy though
Mon Dec 13, 2021, 09:08 AM
Dec 2021

if it mutated enough to significantly increase the number of deaths I could understand.

femmedem

(8,208 posts)
11. People have been thinking that the Omicron variant causes less severe disease.
Mon Dec 13, 2021, 01:28 PM
Dec 2021

And it might very well cause less severe disease than Delta in most instances, but IMO this is newsworthy because people need to know that the Omicron variant is not just like a cold.

femmedem

(8,208 posts)
13. It may have picked up some genetic material from the common cold.
Mon Dec 13, 2021, 05:12 PM
Dec 2021

They're both coronaviruses, so although they are different, they are related.

More info on the shared genetics and what it means here: https://www.medpagetoday.com/infectiousdisease/covid19/96102

 

Tomconroy

(7,611 posts)
2. Since Boris is an ex-editor of The Spectator magazine I
Mon Dec 13, 2021, 09:15 AM
Dec 2021

assume he uses language with precision.
I read an article that reported several people were admitted to UK hospitals for other reasons and then tested positive for the Omicron variant

Dying 'with' Omicron may be different than dying 'because' of Omicron.

speak easy

(9,324 posts)
9. There is some delay between a death in hospital and the pathology report
Mon Dec 13, 2021, 09:43 AM
Dec 2021

attributing the cause(s) of death. Respiratory failure may be straightforward ... but the case will still have to go through path.

speak easy

(9,324 posts)
3. You will find the story carried prominently on the news services.
Mon Dec 13, 2021, 09:19 AM
Dec 2021

It is relevant because of speculation that Omicron is a mild variant - and speculation that has some basis in fact - there has not no increase (at all) in recorded COVID deaths in South Africa - despite an explosion of positive cases. That may happen - deaths are a lagging indicator - but it hasn't happened so far.

 

janterry

(4,429 posts)
4. one variable is that south africa
Mon Dec 13, 2021, 09:21 AM
Dec 2021

has a population that has already been exposed to several variations of covid. The west will be largely reliant on the vaccinations. So, not sure how that will play out.

Still hopeful......but 'watchful' and 'waiting'

NickB79

(19,274 posts)
5. South Africa is also a young population
Mon Dec 13, 2021, 09:25 AM
Dec 2021

Median age of 28. Very little diabetes or obesity, two well-known risk factors for severe COVID.

speak easy

(9,324 posts)
7. "South Africa is also a young population" - and Delta killed a lot of people.
Mon Dec 13, 2021, 09:33 AM
Dec 2021

90,000 deaths are attributed to COVID. The official number of active COVID cases win South Africa on December 12 was 164,128. The official number of COVID deaths on that day was 21.

speak easy

(9,324 posts)
6. I remember the horror of Delta sweeping through India
Mon Dec 13, 2021, 09:27 AM
Dec 2021

... the longer we don't get a repeat of that ... the better. I follow the hospitalization statistics from South Africa every day.

yaesu

(8,020 posts)
10. Imma waiting for more scientific clinical data to come out before I draw any conclusions
Mon Dec 13, 2021, 11:58 AM
Dec 2021

I understand why they want to downplay the mild part as getting people to vaxx is hard enough under Delta.

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