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BumRushDaShow

(129,440 posts)
Thu Dec 30, 2021, 06:28 PM Dec 2021

South Africa says that it has passed its fourth wave of cases, and counts few added deaths.

Source: New York Times

The South African government said Thursday that data from its health department suggested that the country had passed its Omicron peak without a major spike in deaths, offering cautious hope to other countries grappling with the variant. “The speed with which the Omicron-driven fourth wave rose, peaked and then declined has been staggering,” said Fareed Abdullah of the South African Medical Research Council. “Peak in four weeks and precipitous decline in another two. This Omicron wave is over in the city of Tshwane.

It was a flash flood more than a wave.” The rise in deaths over the period was small, and in the last week, officials said, “marginal.” Some scientists were quick to forecast the same pattern elsewhere. “We’ll be in for a tough January, as cases will keep going up and peak, and then fall fast,” said Ali Mokdad, a University of Washington epidemiologist who is a former Centers for Disease Control and Prevention scientist. While cases will still overwhelm hospitals, he said, he expects that the proportion of hospitalized cases will be lower than in earlier waves. Omicron, bearing dozens of troubling mutations, was first identified in Botswana and South Africa in late November.

It rapidly became dominant in South Africa, sending case counts skyrocketing to a pandemic peak averaging more than 23,000 cases a day by mid-December, according to the Our World in Data project at Oxford University. As of last week, Omicron appeared in 95 percent of all new positive test samples that were genetically sequenced. It has spread to more than 100 countries, infecting previously vaccinated and previously infected people, and its proliferation has strained hospitals and thinned work forces in countries like the United States and Britain. In South Africa, overall case counts have been falling for two weeks, plummeting 30 percent in the last week to an average of less than 11,500 a day.

Confirmed cases declined in all provinces except Western Cape and Eastern Cape, the data showed, and there was a drop in hospitalizations in all provinces except Western Cape. There are many caveats. The case figures might have been distorted by reduced testing during the holiday season. And many people in the most affected area had some measure of immunity, either from vaccination, prior infection or both, that might have protected them from serious illness. However, research teams in South Africa, Scotland and England have found that Omicron infections more often result in mild illness than earlier variants of the coronavirus, causing fewer hospitalizations.

Read more: https://www.nytimes.com/live/2021/12/30/world/omicron-covid-vaccine-tests/south-africa-omicron-decline



There is another "caveat" with South Africa vs other countries (including the U.S.) and that is that they had the Beta variant that was prevalent before Delta and then Omicron whereas the U.S. and Europe had Alpha as the dominant variant before Delta and now Omicron.

We will have to see but I know that here in Philly, the hospitals are starting to fill, the positivity rate has gone from under 5% before Thanksgiving to 25% a month later. The deaths have also started rising although I don't know if some are due to reconciled data to "re-home" people who died in other counties/states, etc., and that data was finally forwarded here due to their actual residency being here in Philly.

We have blown past every peak of daily cases from last year and early this year, although i also know due to the holidays and people wanting to make sure before visiting with relatives and friends, as well as all kinds of restrictions put in place requiring testing before doing certain things, the testing rate is much higher. None of the results for cases is including the home kits that do antigen testing, although I expect most people who get a positive with a home antigen kit would probably try to get a PCR followup to confirm, and the results of that PCR would get counted.
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South Africa says that it has passed its fourth wave of cases, and counts few added deaths. (Original Post) BumRushDaShow Dec 2021 OP
Good For Them... GB_RN Dec 2021 #1
Yup BumRushDaShow Dec 2021 #2
Speaking of global South countries Australia and Argentina are really "hot" with Covid right now progree Dec 2021 #4
I just found this (one of the last places that got it) -- BumRushDaShow Dec 2021 #5
London. Tomconroy Dec 2021 #3
Variant exposure is interesting YP_Yooper Dec 2021 #6
This is where snapshots come in handy BumRushDaShow Dec 2021 #7
Thank you again YP_Yooper Dec 2021 #8
You are welcome BumRushDaShow Dec 2021 #9

GB_RN

(2,373 posts)
1. Good For Them...
Thu Dec 30, 2021, 06:38 PM
Dec 2021

Unfortunately, the dynamics that caused it to be short-lived there, won't work here. They have a younger, healthier population, and it was late Spring, rolling into Summer, so the weather likely helped factor into diminishing the spread. As a nation, we're older, sicker and heading into Winter, with its drier, colder air, is more conducive to viral spread. That also forces people indoors, into confined spaces with crappy ventilation/air filtration systems (not designed to filter out nanometer-sized particles), which also contributes to viral spread.

BumRushDaShow

(129,440 posts)
2. Yup
Thu Dec 30, 2021, 06:53 PM
Dec 2021

Unfortunately people in the U.S. think that only Australia is "down under" when you have dozens of countries that are "below the equator" including 3/4 of the continent of South America and at least 1/3rd of the continent of Africa.



All of them are about to start summer.

progree

(10,918 posts)
4. Speaking of global South countries Australia and Argentina are really "hot" with Covid right now
Fri Dec 31, 2021, 03:03 AM
Dec 2021

Last edited Fri Dec 31, 2021, 03:43 AM - Edit history (1)

In South America, Uruguay and Bolivia are moderately high and rising. Oddly Chile is "chill"

The south African countries of South Africa, Botswana, Namibia are elevated compared to the rest of Africa but coming down.

In the tropics, roughly between 20 degrees N. and S., they don't have summer and winter or even particularly warmer or colder temperatures during these seasons -- its mostly rainy season and dry season are the big events.

20 deg S. is about the norrthern border of Argentina and a little south of the northern border of Namibia and Botswana.

I lived 9 degrees N in Venezuela and 6 degrees N in Nigeria, and there was no winter/summer difference that I could tell.

The map is getting attrocious:
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2021/world/covid-cases.html

but the bubbly boo brigade will be along to tell us it will be all over in 8 weeks and we'll just need to get a shot once a year (never understood where they get the one shot per year thing, they think this is the flu, no it is not. We've had 3 shots in a year and there is talk of a 4th one for elderly and immunocompromised -- Israel is already doing that. And only a small perecnt are going to put up with getting 2 or 3 or 4 shots a year, year after year).

BumRushDaShow

(129,440 posts)
5. I just found this (one of the last places that got it) --
Fri Dec 31, 2021, 06:06 AM
Dec 2021
COVID outbreak at remote Antarctic station among fully vaccinated researchers like a horror movie plot

The Telegraph
James Crisp
Dec 30, 2021 • 7 hours ago • 1 minute read •


Two thirds of the 25 staff based at Belgium’s Princess Elisabeth Polar Station have caught the virus, the Le Soir newspaper reported, proving there is no escape from the global pandemic. The outbreak took hold despite all staff passing multiple PCR tests, quarantining and living in one of the most remote places in the world.

The situation has echoes of the plot of John Carpenter’s 1982 horror classic The Thing, which was advertised on posters with the warning “man is the warmest place to hide.” An alien life form infects workers on an Antarctic station in the cult sci-fi thriller starring Kurt Russell.

Unlike the film, none of the infected Belgians have exhibited any severe symptoms – let alone been transformed into bloodthirsty beasts that can only be killed by incineration. All 25 researchers were fully vaccinated and one had a booster shot. Before leaving for the station, they had PCR tests in Belgium two hours before flying to South Africa.

In Cape Town they quarantined for 10 days and took another PCR test. A further test was needed when leaving for Antarctica and a final one five days after that. One person tested positive seven days after arriving at the station on Dec 14. The individual was placed in isolation but tests revealed two others had caught the virus. All three left the station on Dec 23 but the virus has continued to spread.

https://nationalpost.com/news/world/covid-outbreak-at-remote-antarctic-station-among-fully-vaccinated-researchers-like-horror-movie-plot


Of course it is the beginning of summer in Antarctica although for obvious reasons they work in close quarters at times.
 

YP_Yooper

(291 posts)
6. Variant exposure is interesting
Fri Dec 31, 2021, 10:28 AM
Dec 2021

Damn if I can't post a picture, but this site tracks the variants, and may visually offer insight as well showing the descendants:

https://nextstrain.org/ncov/gisaid/global

Prior exposure and the immunity it offers is a huge variable that's (unfortunately) not being tracked closely.



 

YP_Yooper

(291 posts)
8. Thank you again
Fri Dec 31, 2021, 11:02 AM
Dec 2021

It's a wonderful example supporting your OP. Delta and Omicron are from two separate lines - Alpha v Beta going all the way back to the beginning. Thinking out loud, if the vaccs are based on the original strain (pre-alpha), why the difference in efficacy between delta and omicron?

BumRushDaShow

(129,440 posts)
9. You are welcome
Fri Dec 31, 2021, 11:39 AM
Dec 2021

I know that Beta (which was originally identified in South Africa) never really caught hold much anywhere else but there (and that region), whereas Alpha was the biggy most everywhere else.



Beta is the dark purple at the very top of the above with Alpha shown just under it in dark blue.

I think the issue with the vaccines and Omicron has to do with what the vaccines were designed to target (the spikes) and these "spikes" are really just long strings of proteins that obviously aren't "rigid". They will continually expand and contract and move around and "fold over", which makes it difficult for the immune system's various entities to actually get to the places they were created to attach to on the virus (notably along the spikes) to start neutralizing and clearing it. I.e., the stuff at the top of the spike, which is used as claws to attach to a cell, is just "matted" (my term ) and can be hard for antibodies and T-cells to access to take the thing out (by keeping it from attaching to cells) -



They also found that Omicron had slightly different preferred "landing sites" (just before getting into the actual lung tissue - i.e., the "bronchioles" ) to start replicating from, and that was producing slightly different symptoms -



When I was running SETI@Home (with a team) for the 20 years the project was going on, for part of that time, we were also running Folding@Home that was using our machines with their client to do calculations of protein folding - https://foldingathome.org/home/

Of course now they are literally neck-deep in this very thing for SARS-CoV-2 (and other diseases) - https://foldingathome.org/

There was one image that had been shown in a Nature article about how the virus lands on and pulls itself to cells so that it can break through the cell wall, inject its genetic material, and start replicating. This was just scientifically fascinating (as horrible as the result is) -

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