Biden talks sanctions, Putin warns of rupture over Ukraine

[TexasTowelie]

Source: AP

WILMINGTON, Del. (AP) — President Joe Biden has warned Russia's Vladimir Putiin that the U.S. could impose new sanctions against Russia if it takes further military action against Ukraine, while Putin responded that such a U.S. move could lead to a complete rupture of ties between the nations.

The two leaders spoke frankly for nearly an hour Thursday amid growing alarm over Russia's troop buildup near Ukraine, a crisis that has deepened as the Kremlin has stiffened its insistence on border security guarantees and test-fired hypersonic missiles to underscore its demands.

Further U.S. sanctions "would be a colossal mistake that would entail grave consequences,” said Putin's foreign affairs adviser Yuri Ushakov, who briefed reporters in Moscow after the Biden-Putin phone conversation. He added that Putin told Biden that Russia would act as the U.S. would if offensive weapons were deployed near American borders.

White House officials offered a far more muted post-call readout, suggesting the leaders agreed there are areas where the two sides can make meaningful progress but also differences that might be impossible to resolve.



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Link is to the Carbondale Southern Illinoisan.

[wyn borkins]

1. Read Posting Title As

Biden talks sanctions; Putin talks of rapture over Ukraine

[TexasTowelie]

2. That's a new one.

What a way to start 2022 though.

[marie999]

3. Russia won't allow offensive weapons in Ukraine any more than the U.S. allowed missiles in Cuba

or TU-95 bombers in Grenada.

[EX500rider]

13. What offensive weapons is the US trying to place in the Ukraine

I think the answer is zero
Now the Ukraine may want to buy or build offensive weapons to deter Russian invasions not surprising

[paleotn]

15. Yep. 100K Soviet...umm...I mean Russian troops on your border

tends to do that.

[paleotn]

14. Red herring.

Replace "offensive weapons" with the Stalinesqe spheres of influence. Putin want's puppet states. The US says that's up to the people of Ukraine. Problem with that?

[JohnSJ]

4. Bloomberg is reporting an entire different headling. "Russia Satisfied with Biden-Putin Call", and

that both sides consider the call went well

[Irish_Dem]

5. What are the "grave consequences" if we don't comply to Putin's demands?

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[mac56]

6. A sternly-worded letter to Pravda.

[Irish_Dem]

7. He already installed Trump and bought off three branches

of the US government. What else can he do?

[paleotn]

17. Pelosi is on the Russian payroll? Say it ain't so.

[Irish_Dem]

19. Not the entire congress. Just enough to make it count.

[former9thward]

21. What else?

Invade Ukraine of course.

[Irish_Dem]

23. If you try to stop me from invading Ukraine, I will invade Ukraine

as your punishment.

Actually it does sound just like something Putin would say.

[former9thward]

24. Except of course he did not say that.

He said he wants a guarantee Ukraine will not be admitted to NATO and the West will not encroach into eastern Europe.

[Irish_Dem]

29. So what then did Biden say?

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[former9thward]

30. I have not seen it reported.

[paleotn]

16. They won't like us very much.

That's different how? They'll act like a rouge state. That's different how? They'll start a cyber cold war? That's different how?

[Irish_Dem]

20. They already hate the US, are a rogue state, and are at war with us.

Correct.

[bluestarone]

8. I'm positive that there are 2 to 300 rethuglicon congressman that

Would vote for putin against Biden in congress's future votes for the Ukrainian situation! They are fucking russians in my book!

[LiberalFighter]

9. How about all property owned in America by Russians be confiscated?

Especially in Kentucky.

[llashram]

10. to hell with

trump's puppet master. President Biden is not compromised by the KGB or whatever they call themselves these days. President Biden cannot be intimidated. I'll always remember this photo Of President Obama meeting this fascist.




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Putin looks so diminished...

[MarineCombatEngineer]

11. They're now called the FSB,

meet the new boss, same as the old boss.

[llashram]

12. thanks. Exactly

[paleotn]

18. Yea, Putiy. Whatever.

Take away the nukes and you've got North Kazakhstan.

[former9thward]

22. I think you need to learn more about Russia

The country's vast territory makes it the richest nation in terms of natural resource wealth. The nation is a leading producer of coal, diamonds, aluminum, asbestos, gemstones, diamonds, lime, lead, gypsum, iron ore, bauxite, gallium, boron, mica, natural gas, potash, platinum, oil, rare earth metals, pig iron, peat, nitrogen, cadmium, arsenic, magnesium, molybdenum, phosphate, sulfur, titanium sponge, silicon, uranium, tellurium, vanadium, tungsten, cobalt, graphite, silver, vermiculite, selenium, rhenium, copper, and gold.

https://www.worldatlas.com/articles/what-are-the-major-natural-resources-of-russia.html

[paleotn]

25. Much of that could be said about Afghanistan. Or Kazakhstan. Point?

Or should I use John McCain's quite apt description of Russia....A gas station masquerading as a country.

https://theweek.com/speedreads/456437/john-mccain-russia-gas-station-masquerading-country

On edit...learn more about Russia? Fucking excuse me?

[former9thward]

26. You are the one is said Russia just has nukes and nothing else.

[paleotn]

27. Yes. Point?

[ripcord]

28. Putin just has his panties in a wad because Ukraine wants to join NATO nt

[monkeyman1]

31. he lost the big stooge & don't have a in ???