Liz Cheney on Trump: He's a threat to American democracy

[brooklynite]

Source: Politico

Rep. Liz Cheney said Sunday she fears that if former President Donald Trump were to become president again, it could be a lethal blow to American democracy.

“He crossed lines no American president has ever crossed before,” the Wyoming Republican told host George Stephanopoulos on ABC’s “This Week,” days before the anniversary of the Jan. 6 Capitol riot.

“You know, we entrust the survival of our republic into the hands of the chief executive, and when a president refuses to tell the mob to stop, when he refuses to defend any of the coordinate branches of government, he cannot be trusted.“

Cheney is one of nine House members serving on the committee chaired by Rep. Bennie Thompson (D-Miss.) investigating the Capitol riot, including Trump’s role in it.

Read more: https://www.politico.com/news/2022/01/02/cheney-trump-threat-democracy-526356

[llashram]

1. 1/6/21

was as obvious a warning as could be possible. Will intelligence and the will to continue our experiment in democracy continue? I do really wonder.

[Walleye]

2. I hate that they have made me like and admire Liz Cheney. But here we are

[Ferryboat]

7. Dont hate someone because of political issues

TFG being the exception. It makes you blind to the good that they are capable of.

My hatred of Nixon blinded me to the good programs he started. The EPA for example. That doesn't make up for the damage he and Kissinger did do.
You need to be open to their potential for doing good but watchful and ready to oppose the bad.

[Walleye]

9. Well stated. I never felt the kind of hatred I feel for trump for any other politician

I’ve always gotten along with all kinds of people Republicans etc. doesn’t matter. That’s the way it’s always been in Delaware I don’t know what’s going on

[multigraincracker]

11. Dad use to say, even an old blind

sow picks up an acorn once in a while.

[Evolve Dammit]

14. Really good point. Clean Air Act, Clean Water Act, OSHA, Superfund, China relations. He was a crook,

but Agnew resigned and Nixon resigned. Don the Con is a mob boss, and needs to be treated accordingly. Liz is on the right track.

[Botany]

3. Cheney has no fucks left to give and she will one day become a leader of what is left of the GOP.

Said Cheney: “That fucking guy Jim Jordan. That son of a bitch.… While these maniacs are going through the place, I’m standing in the aisle and he said, ‘We need to get the ladies away from the aisle. Let me help you.’ I smacked his hand away and told him, ‘Get away from me. You fucking did this.'”

[COL Mustard]

25. She may become a leader of what's left

If she survives this fall's election. That may get interesting.

[CBHagman]

37. I had heard that Democratic lawmakers had immediately called out their GOP colleagues...

...blaming them for the attack, but I hadn't realized Liz Cheney had not only blamed another member of the GOP but had done so with colorful language. And if she slapped away Jim Jordan's hand, she showed more restraint than I might have.

[George II]

4. She was on Face the Nation a few minutes ago - she and the entire committee are really going....

....after trump now.

I wouldn't be surprised if there are public hearings very shortly.

[thesquanderer]

5. Public hearings can make all the difference.

Watergate would not have become WATERGATE if it weren't for the televised hearings.

[George II]

6. Alexander Butterfield and John Dean put the final nails in Nixon's Presidential coffin.

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[3catwoman3]

17. Butterfield.

n/t

[George II]

18. I can't believe I did that!!! I just had pancakes for breakfast - Freudian slip!

[Sucha NastyWoman]

19. What did you call him before you edited it?

Buttermilk?

[George II]

20. Butterworth, as in "Mrs. Butterworth"!

[Sucha NastyWoman]

23. Heh heh

Funny!

[3catwoman3]

29. It was good for a giggle.

[Talitha]

10. Lordy, please let there be public hearings!

[spooky3]

13. She articulated the legislative purpose, too--that

TFG’s dereliction of duty (some of it) was not clearly in violation of a statute, because nothing like this had happened before. This is important because some Rethugs are trying to argue that the committee is illegitimate because it has no legislative purpose.

[COL Mustard]

26. I misread your post

I thought you said public hangings. I was getting hopeful. Dammit.

[George II]

28. There's always this, thanks to trumpers:

[COL Mustard]

32. Ouch. That hurt.

Comparing me to them.

I'm reminded of an episode of Gilligan's Island when Lovey Howell is asked if she owns any common stocks....heaven forbid!



Happy New Year

[George II]

35. That wasn't meant for you, sorry. HNY to you, too sir.

[NEOBuckeye]

8. I was never a fan of Cheney, and still hesitate to be

But she’s on the proper side of history in this case, and I can respect her for having an actual steel spine to stand against TFG. More power to her.

She will come out of this far better off in standing than most members of her party. Most of them are greasy weasels like Gym Jordan.

[Mr. Ected]

12. Cheney is something Trump and the MAGAts are not

American first, Republican second. There may be others in the GOP that are privately so, but they are cowards among cowards for failing to raise their voices when democracy weighs in the balance.

[Evolve Dammit]

15. especially Pence, who has publically stated that his priorities are not as an American first.

Christian and Republican first.

[Mr. Ected]

21. The fact that the GOP and its media have been demonizing other Americans because of our beliefs

Is a sin that should end in the death of the Republican Party.

America's thrives on having its "conversations" and the prevailing party institutes what the majority of us want.

The GOP has severed that communication, instituting two Americas, one of which is flagrantly imaginary. They not only want us to be silenced, they wish this death sentence to be permanent.

If that isn't subversive and un-American, what is?

Pence's punishment will be an eternity of being deemed an ineffective politician and a coward of a man.

[Evolve Dammit]

27. Agreed. I just hope the last line plays out that way.

[bucolic_frolic]

16. Take it to him, Liz!

I have respect for principles, even when I don't agree with them. America needs her leadership in this battle.

[Sucha NastyWoman]

22. I think Adam Kinzinger deserves praise as well.

It’s just a shame that more Republicans don’t take courage from their standing up for what they know is right.

[COL Mustard]

33. I'm afraid they checked their spines, balls, whatever

At the door. No character anymore, with very few exceptions.

[DownriverDem]

24. I sure hope

folks realize that we need to win more elections if we want to move forward.

[GB_RN]

30. While I'll Never Agree With Liz Cheney On Anything Politically...

I can at least respect her. Both Cheney and Rep. Adam Kinzinger. Why? Because the two of them have stood up for American democracy without fail, and taken the abuse heaped on them by their "so-called" (R-) colleagues. So, yeah, I can respect them, even as I disagree with them.

Not a single other person in either house of Congress with an (R-) behind his or her name has done shit to deserve that respect...not even those who voted to convict tRump in the second impeachment trial. Why? Because they've been silent on everything since, when events have demanded that they speak out.

*Looking at you directly at you, Senator Susan "I'll Write A Letter" Collins (R-Concerned).

[LakeArenal]

31. So... she admits the Cheneys know there are such lines a President shouldn't cross.

I really did not see that in her Dad’s advice to Bush at all. But I guess the sins of the father and all that......

[COL Mustard]

34. Right, judge her by her actions, not by Dad's

I mean Darth's.....

[jgmiller]

36. I've never agreed with the Cheneys but she really is on a mission and it's impressive

She's just proving what others have learned; never cross a Cheney. McCarthy is so dumb he doesn't realize he's a deadman walking, yes she wants to stop Trump and save democracy but while doing so she's going after her other goal which is to relegate McCarthy to the dustbin of history. It's really a beautiful thing to watch.

[Dark n Stormy Knight]

38. It's simple. She should vote with the Dems to pass Biden's agenda, starting with voting rights.

That would help keep TFG & his cronies out of office.

So should any R who's not a RWNJ. But they won't. So, not serious enough about saving our democracy.

[Amy_Jones_90]

39. I disagree vehemently

I disagree with virtually every policy position espoused by Liz Cheney - but I have immense respect for her as a person and for being one of the almost-nonexistent group of Republicans willing to stand up to the cult leader. If we're ever to have a functioning, rational two-party system we need a lot more strong women like her on the GOP side.