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BlueWavePsych

(2,640 posts)
Thu Jan 6, 2022, 11:42 AM Jan 2022

Philippines' Duterte threatens unvaccinated people with arrest

Source: CTV

MANILA -- Philippines President Rodrigo Duterte said on Thursday people who have not taken COVID-19 shots will be arrested if they disobey stay-at-home orders as infections hit a three-month high.

Duterte in an televised address to the nation said he was asking community leaders to look for unvaccinated people and make sure they were confined to their homes.

"If he refuses, if he goes out his house and goes around the community, he can be restrained. If he refuses, the captain is empowered now to arrest recalcitrant persons," Duterte said.

Daily coronavirus infections in the Philippines hit the highest since Sept. 26 at 17,220 cases on Thursday, the health ministry said, including those caused by the Omicron variant of COVID-19.


Read more: https://www.ctvnews.ca/health/coronavirus/philippines-duterte-threatens-unvaccinated-people-with-arrest-1.5729850



Hmmm ... we should do that here
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Philippines' Duterte threatens unvaccinated people with arrest (Original Post) BlueWavePsych Jan 2022 OP
The single best thing we could all do to end the pandemic. PatrickforB Jan 2022 #1
You are free to yell fire in a theatre. OneCrazyDiamond Jan 2022 #7
Actually, you might be able to falsely do it. NutmegYankee Jan 2022 #12
Thanks. OneCrazyDiamond Jan 2022 #14
Now I agree with Duterte? Picaro Jan 2022 #2
Hear, hear! BigmanPigman Jan 2022 #8
Yeah, I could go for that Bayard Jan 2022 #3
Well, that's the end of that right-wing world leader love fest. LeftInTX Jan 2022 #4
why? he could go one step further catsudon Jan 2022 #5
He's getting soft. I thought he would just have them shot. marie999 Jan 2022 #6
Yup orangecrush Jan 2022 #9
That would be the "2nd warning". nt Carlitos Brigante Jan 2022 #11
Wait until you see the jail that holds them rpannier Jan 2022 #13
This is why many Filipino people like Duterte. honest.abe Jan 2022 #10

PatrickforB

(14,587 posts)
1. The single best thing we could all do to end the pandemic.
Thu Jan 6, 2022, 11:44 AM
Jan 2022

You are not free here to yell 'fire' in a theater. Why should you be free to infect people around you with a deadly disease?

OneCrazyDiamond

(2,032 posts)
7. You are free to yell fire in a theatre.
Thu Jan 6, 2022, 02:26 PM
Jan 2022

Especially when it is in fact on fire.

You are not allowed to falsely yell fire in a theatre with impunity.

NutmegYankee

(16,201 posts)
12. Actually, you might be able to falsely do it.
Thu Jan 6, 2022, 09:33 PM
Jan 2022

The yelling fire reference goes back to the Italian Hall disaster in Calumet, Michigan on December 24, 1913. It was referenced in the SCOTUS decision Schenck v. United States 1919, which established the clear and present danger doctrine. That was later overturned by Brandenburg v. Ohio in 1969, which established the imminent lawless action doctrine.

Picaro

(1,525 posts)
2. Now I agree with Duterte?
Thu Jan 6, 2022, 12:47 PM
Jan 2022

Great. This is like a stopped clock is right twice a day.

While this sounds a bit draconian and heavy handed you don't have to look far to find current examples of this type of action in Austria and Italy(there may be others as well).

There is ample precedence for this type of legal action here in the U.S. Look up the case of Typhoid Mary. Look up the story of Washington forcing his troops the accept inoculation for small pox and confining them to Boston until they had been inoculated.

There are numerous grounds on which to do this. One overriding one--National Security--has been used a number of times for other freedom limiting and freedom abusing purposes.

I'm sick to death of the minority morons not just refusing the vaccine, but claiming the vaccine is killing people. While any medication can have adverse results--I've yet to hear of any numbers, significant or otherwise, of people dying or almost dying after taking the vaccine.

This will never end if we can't either force these idiots to take the vaccine or make them stay in isolation.

Bayard

(22,128 posts)
3. Yeah, I could go for that
Thu Jan 6, 2022, 01:01 PM
Jan 2022

We keep relying on anti-vaxers good sense and concern for fellow humans, when they have none.

I still think we should be using the old spreading of infectious disease laws that were used in the beginning of HIV. They're still on state books.

honest.abe

(8,685 posts)
10. This is why many Filipino people like Duterte.
Thu Jan 6, 2022, 08:49 PM
Jan 2022

He is hard core and often crazy but his strict approach to governing is what many think is what the Philippines needs.

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