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brooklynite

(94,598 posts)
Fri Jan 14, 2022, 12:41 AM Jan 2022

Biden hosts Manchin and Sinema at White House to push for voting rights reforme

Source: Axios

President Biden met with Sens. Joe Manchin (D-W.Va.) and Kyrsten Sinema (D-Ariz.) at the White House on Thursday night after the senators reaffirmed their opposition to reforming the filibuster, the White House said.

Why it matters: Biden and other Democrats want the Senate's filibuster rules changed in order to pass voting rights legislation.

A White House spokesperson said Biden had "a candid and respectful exchange of views about voting rights" with Manchin and Sinema, according to a pool report.


Read more: https://www.axios.com/biden-manchin-sinema-voting-rights-reform-ad2237db-64f3-450c-9dad-6894189f93e5.html
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Biden hosts Manchin and Sinema at White House to push for voting rights reforme (Original Post) brooklynite Jan 2022 OP
Obstruction pays in attention. n/t PoliticAverse Jan 2022 #1
Perhaps Sinema will put down her phone Colgate 64 Jan 2022 #2
Hopefully the ghost of LBJ will be there to strike some goddamn fear vercetti2021 Jan 2022 #3
Was thinking the same thing. Biden ahold eat raw onions before the meeting unblock Jan 2022 #4
My guess is they discussed BBB as the voting rights bills are now dead. LonePirate Jan 2022 #5
Manchin won't change parties because he would never win a Republican primary in WV. SunSeeker Jan 2022 #6
She's actually in just as bad a spot as manchin. She flipped from gqp to dem when she came out as PortTack Jan 2022 #9
Flipped? When was she ever a Republican? n/t thesquanderer Jan 2022 #14
Oh...she flipped from the green party...my mistake PortTack Jan 2022 #22
Good, AZ Dems have much better candidates available. nt SunSeeker Jan 2022 #17
He wouldn't have to win a Republican primary. He could choose to become/run as an Independent. n/t thesquanderer Jan 2022 #16
Without a "no Dem challenger" agreement with Dems like Bernie has, Manchin would be toast. SunSeeker Jan 2022 #18
I don't know enough about him or WV to know whether he could pull off... thesquanderer Jan 2022 #19
At this point it's hard to say which of the two is more dead. (n/t) thesquanderer Jan 2022 #15
The time for "respectful exchange of views" is long past. Fiendish Thingy Jan 2022 #7
He probably is...mentally anyway PortTack Jan 2022 #10
✔️ ✔️ ✔️ ✔️ ✔️ n/t msfiddlestix Jan 2022 #11
how many times qazplm135 Jan 2022 #8
It's past time to find kacekwl Jan 2022 #12
And how does that help? FBaggins Jan 2022 #13
They could resign in disgrace and kacekwl Jan 2022 #20
That isn't how it works FBaggins Jan 2022 #21

Colgate 64

(14,732 posts)
2. Perhaps Sinema will put down her phone
Fri Jan 14, 2022, 12:57 AM
Jan 2022

long enough to hear what the President is saying to her. It was reported earlier that, at the President's meeting with Senate Democrats on the same topic she rarely stopped looking at her phone while he was speaking.

unblock

(52,253 posts)
4. Was thinking the same thing. Biden ahold eat raw onions before the meeting
Fri Jan 14, 2022, 01:09 AM
Jan 2022

Damn that tactic doesn't work so well with masks and social distancing.

LonePirate

(13,426 posts)
5. My guess is they discussed BBB as the voting rights bills are now dead.
Fri Jan 14, 2022, 01:19 AM
Jan 2022

If judicial appointments weren’t so critical, Biden would likely rip into them publicly or ask Schumer to remove them from committees. However Manchin would just change parties and Sinema would not care because she is there to serve her donors and not the public.

SunSeeker

(51,574 posts)
6. Manchin won't change parties because he would never win a Republican primary in WV.
Fri Jan 14, 2022, 01:30 AM
Jan 2022

He knows his only chance at elected office is to run as a Democrat.

It's Sinema who looks ready to flip to the GOP.

PortTack

(32,778 posts)
9. She's actually in just as bad a spot as manchin. She flipped from gqp to dem when she came out as
Fri Jan 14, 2022, 03:19 AM
Jan 2022

Bisexual. They really don’t want her. The powers that be in the AZ dem party did their best to warn ppl not to go with her...we should have listened

She’s toast..the AZ Dems are furious..they worked really hard for her and this is how she repays them. They are already talking about who the best primary challenger would be

SunSeeker

(51,574 posts)
18. Without a "no Dem challenger" agreement with Dems like Bernie has, Manchin would be toast.
Fri Jan 14, 2022, 02:31 PM
Jan 2022

The WV Dem.challenger would sap too many votes for Manchin to win over any GOP challenger.

thesquanderer

(11,990 posts)
19. I don't know enough about him or WV to know whether he could pull off...
Fri Jan 14, 2022, 02:57 PM
Jan 2022

...what Angus King pulls off in Maine, or what Lieberman pulled off in CT.

Fiendish Thingy

(15,624 posts)
7. The time for "respectful exchange of views" is long past.
Fri Jan 14, 2022, 01:55 AM
Jan 2022

Biden needs to start flipping furniture and throwing vases.

qazplm135

(7,447 posts)
8. how many times
Fri Jan 14, 2022, 02:04 AM
Jan 2022

they going to meet to exchange candid and respectful views?

At least change the verbiage up guys.

I would certainly have wanted to be a fly on the wall though, but everyone who can pressure them has pressured them.

kacekwl

(7,017 posts)
12. It's past time to find
Fri Jan 14, 2022, 10:30 AM
Jan 2022

dirt on these two. The Republicans would have blackmailed these two out of office by now if they were in this position. Shocking you say, I'm no longer shock able. We haven't realized that this a war for democracy. I'm tired of billionaires and those paid by them ruining my country.

FBaggins

(26,748 posts)
13. And how does that help?
Fri Jan 14, 2022, 11:57 AM
Jan 2022

If either of them is "blackmailed out of office"... we immediately lose the Senate majority.

FBaggins

(26,748 posts)
21. That isn't how it works
Fri Jan 14, 2022, 03:41 PM
Jan 2022

The moment one of them resigns, the senate is now 50-49 (or 50-48) republican. Schumer is no longer in control.

Then the governor of WV/AZ (both republicans) appoints a replacement who hold the seat at least through November (becoming the incumbent for that race) and the Senate is now 52-48 republican.

Winning back AZ would be 50/50 at best. Winning back WV is effectively impossible for the foreseeable future.

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