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Omaha Steve

(99,659 posts)
Sat Jan 15, 2022, 05:51 PM Jan 2022

Official: Alec Baldwin surrenders phone for shooting probe

Source: AP

SANTA FE, N.M. (AP) — Alec Baldwin has surrendered his cellphone to authorities as part of the investigation into a fatal shooting on a New Mexico film set last fall, a law enforcement official said.

Santa Fe County Sheriff’s Office spokesman Juan Rios said Baldwin’s phone was turned over Friday to law enforcement officials in Suffolk County, New York, who will gather the information from the phone and provide it to Santa Fe County investigators, the Santa Fe New Mexican reported.

Sheriff’s office investigators in December obtained a search warrant for the phone’s contents in their investigation into the Oct. 11 shooting on the “Rust” film set at Bonanza Creek Ranch near Santa Fe.

Baldwin was an actor and co-producer, and the search warrant for his phone sought text messages, images, videos, calls or any other information related to the movie.



FILE - Alec Baldwin performs emcee duties at the Robert F. Kennedy Human Rights Ripple of Hope Award Gala at New York Hilton Midtown on Dec. 9, 2021, in New York. Baldwin has surrendered his cellphone as part of the investigation into a fatal shooting on a New Mexico film set last fall. A Santa Fe County Sheriff’s Office spokesman says Baldwin’s phone was turned over Friday, Jan. 14, 2022, to authorities in New York's Suffolk County and that information from the phone will be provided to investigators. (Photo by Evan Agostini/Invision/AP, File)


Read more: https://apnews.com/article/alec-baldwin-entertainment-arts-and-entertainment-new-york-new-mexico-1e593978d08df74192f7f3610a94bcc2

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Official: Alec Baldwin surrenders phone for shooting probe (Original Post) Omaha Steve Jan 2022 OP
About time. jimfields33 Jan 2022 #1
WTH do you mean 'about time'? Kingofalldems Jan 2022 #14
I think poster meant why did it take investigators so long to demand it? cadoman Jan 2022 #16
They didn't wait. former9thward Jan 2022 #20
excellent summary, thank you cadoman Jan 2022 #31
He was a producer on the film. calimary Jan 2022 #33
I expect him to be criminally charged Yandex Jan 2022 #2
Charged for . . . ? TimeToGo Jan 2022 #3
Involuntary Manslaughter n/t Yandex Jan 2022 #4
Doesn't sound likely TimeToGo Jan 2022 #7
I don't believe there was any reason for him to have pointed that gun at the woman he shot Yandex Jan 2022 #11
"In the script" Roy Rolling Jan 2022 #12
I'm only opining a charge may be made Yandex Jan 2022 #13
If they wanted a scene with the shot being filmed from the front, and she was tblue37 Jan 2022 #17
Thanks tblue37 for keeping the Fox News view points under fire. nt C Moon Jan 2022 #25
Welcome to DU. mahina Jan 2022 #22
I would assume any gun I am holding anywhere at any time is loaded with real bullets n/t Yandex Jan 2022 #23
I can speak under those criteria Roy Rolling Jan 2022 #27
Ask yourself why the armorer who was responsible for gun safety was assigned other duties ripcord Jan 2022 #29
Multiple jobs, to save money. JustABozoOnThisBus Jan 2022 #34
IF recklessness and/or negligence Rocknation Jan 2022 #8
He was an Executive Producer underpants Jan 2022 #5
Silly. C Moon Jan 2022 #24
Nobody was charged in Brandon Lee's death Lokilooney Jan 2022 #35
You can't just get a search warrant from the phone company anymore? Rocknation Jan 2022 #6
Anything to distract from the responsibility of the armorer. Sneederbunk Jan 2022 #9
Yeah, I don't understand why they seem to be protecting Farmer-Rick Jan 2022 #10
+1 MustLoveBeagles Jan 2022 #18
The armorer isn't responsible ripcord Jan 2022 #28
Right wingers and their troll minions hate him. Kingofalldems Jan 2022 #15
This is true MustLoveBeagles Jan 2022 #19
That man gave me hope on many dark Saturday nights. Me and lots of folks. mahina Jan 2022 #21
I don't blame him for waiting. There are evil people out there. C Moon Jan 2022 #26
Commenters know all. Do not question. twodogsbarking Jan 2022 #30
Trump hated Baldwin for SNL mimics Vic-purria Jan 2022 #32

cadoman

(792 posts)
16. I think poster meant why did it take investigators so long to demand it?
Sat Jan 15, 2022, 11:42 PM
Jan 2022

You'd think they'd be scouring the set for evidence ASAP, and Baldwin being the admitted shooter/gun holder/whatever he should have been under extra scrutiny.

former9thward

(32,023 posts)
20. They didn't wait.
Sun Jan 16, 2022, 02:17 AM
Jan 2022

They put out a search warrant for it a month ago.

The Santa Fe County Sheriff's Office said in a press release Thursday that they applied for a search warrant asking for the actor's phone on Dec. 16, and the request was approved by a judge that same day. Detectives then served the warrant to Baldwin's lawyers via email, who they say acknowledged they got the message.

The sheriff's office then got the Santa Fe District Attorney's Office involved when Baldwin "had not immediately provided his phone pursuant to the initial search warrant," per the release. The DA's office then took over the efforts to retrieve the phone "on a consent basis" because of "jurisdictional concerns," they stated.

According to the press release, investigators were told on Dec. 20 that negotiations were underway to get the cell phone and its contents, however, as of Thursday, "the cell phone has not been turned over to authorities."

https://people.com/movies/alec-baldwin-still-hasnt-given-cell-phone-to-investigators-sheriffs-say/

cadoman

(792 posts)
31. excellent summary, thank you
Sun Jan 16, 2022, 01:43 PM
Jan 2022

But not a good look for Baldwin at all. I guess the charitable thing to imagine would be that he had matters unrelated to the killing that he didn't want getting out, and since legally he didn't have to immediately share it, he didn't.

calimary

(81,312 posts)
33. He was a producer on the film.
Sun Jan 16, 2022, 02:50 PM
Jan 2022

So I’d expect most of it would be producer-stuff, keeping costs down, location stuff, logistics, rules & regs (probably a few “how-do-we-get-around-but-avoid-liability/union issues, production ins-‘n’-outs, etc.

TimeToGo

(1,366 posts)
7. Doesn't sound likely
Sat Jan 15, 2022, 06:51 PM
Jan 2022

Unless they have some evidence to suggest he did something that violated normal safety standards (do they?). Or there is something he did/didn't do in his role as a a producer.

But we will see.

 

Yandex

(273 posts)
11. I don't believe there was any reason for him to have pointed that gun at the woman he shot
Sat Jan 15, 2022, 07:48 PM
Jan 2022

She was not part of the action or the movie, it wasn't in the script. Why did he point the gun at her? That right there is very troublesome.

Roy Rolling

(6,917 posts)
12. "In the script"
Sat Jan 15, 2022, 08:22 PM
Jan 2022

What “script”? Show the “script” that’s being mentioned.

And charging someone with a crime based on such loose speculation isn’t helpful.

It’s a tragic accident at this stage until evidence proves otherwise. Quoting an imaginary “script” doesn’t reveal evidence, which is what’s been missing. In that absence, tabloid stories fill the void. Totally normal, but not helpful to repeat.

 

Yandex

(273 posts)
13. I'm only opining a charge may be made
Sat Jan 15, 2022, 08:25 PM
Jan 2022

Why was Baldwin pointing the gun at that woman? Was it necessary? Did it have anything to do with the shooting of the movie?

Why would anyone ever point a gun at someone unless there was some kind of need to do that?

tblue37

(65,403 posts)
17. If they wanted a scene with the shot being filmed from the front, and she was
Sun Jan 16, 2022, 12:00 AM
Jan 2022

standing Behind the camera. . . .

mahina

(17,667 posts)
22. Welcome to DU.
Sun Jan 16, 2022, 03:30 AM
Jan 2022

Hmm.

I haven’t been on a movie set where people are goofing around myself but I know a few folks who have, often. I think unless you have and you can speak to how people get ready on movie sets for scenes involving guns maybe neither of us should cast aspersions on anybody’s asparagus.

Would there be any reason to suspect that a prop gun was armed with real ammo?

Roy Rolling

(6,917 posts)
27. I can speak under those criteria
Sun Jan 16, 2022, 05:23 AM
Jan 2022

I worked as a set medic on movies and TV for years in situations just like this. I know the procedure, I know the shortcuts. I know what spec scripts are, director scripts, shootings scripts, and the countless revisions.

There are very strict guidelines for the handling of firearms—blank guns included—on a location.

There are many reasons the DP was behind the camera and such. It’s a tragic accident.

ripcord

(5,408 posts)
29. Ask yourself why the armorer who was responsible for gun safety was assigned other duties
Sun Jan 16, 2022, 12:48 PM
Jan 2022

She wasn't on the set at the time of the shooting, she was working as a prop assistant.

JustABozoOnThisBus

(23,350 posts)
34. Multiple jobs, to save money.
Sun Jan 16, 2022, 04:41 PM
Jan 2022

It's not like "armorer" is a full-time job, unless you're the armorer of a company of infantry.

Still, anything involving a gun should go through the armorer's hands, with the armorer doing full inspections. If the armorer is not on the set, all guns should have been in a safe.

I think some producers are at fault, hiring an untrained armorer, or not giving the armorer proper authority.

Rocknation

(44,576 posts)
8. IF recklessness and/or negligence
Sat Jan 15, 2022, 06:51 PM
Jan 2022

that is known -- or should have been known -- could result in death, can be proven.


Rocknation

Lokilooney

(322 posts)
35. Nobody was charged in Brandon Lee's death
Sun Jan 16, 2022, 07:11 PM
Jan 2022

Most accidental deaths on movie sets seem to be treated as such, I assume they become an insurance issue after the investigation.

Rocknation

(44,576 posts)
6. You can't just get a search warrant from the phone company anymore?
Sat Jan 15, 2022, 06:47 PM
Jan 2022

This happened in October -- more than enough time to delete whatever's on it.


Rocknation

Farmer-Rick

(10,185 posts)
10. Yeah, I don't understand why they seem to be protecting
Sat Jan 15, 2022, 07:43 PM
Jan 2022

The people who were responsible for ensuring gun safety on set?

They were hired to do one job and they couldn't even do that right. I guess we should be grateful more people didn't die.

ripcord

(5,408 posts)
28. The armorer isn't responsible
Sun Jan 16, 2022, 12:45 PM
Jan 2022

What we need to find out is what idiot decided that the armorer should have been working as a prop assistant instead of being on the set when a gun was being handled. The gun was left on a cart outside the set unattended until the assistant producer can out to get it. I think the reason they wanted Baldwin's phone is to find out who's decision that was, as an executive producer on the set it could have been his.

mahina

(17,667 posts)
21. That man gave me hope on many dark Saturday nights. Me and lots of folks.
Sun Jan 16, 2022, 03:25 AM
Jan 2022

It’s a horrible thing that happened. Whoever put that bullet in that gun is at least half responsible.

Why would anyone do that?

C Moon

(12,213 posts)
26. I don't blame him for waiting. There are evil people out there.
Sun Jan 16, 2022, 04:28 AM
Jan 2022

If you're going to hand over your phone in a situation like this, make damn sure it's done in a 100% legal manner. Don't just give it to some deputy who asks for it.

Vic-purria

(4 posts)
32. Trump hated Baldwin for SNL mimics
Sun Jan 16, 2022, 02:21 PM
Jan 2022

I think we all know Trump hated Baldwin for ridiculing him on SNL. If you have been paying attention to news, you may notice that all the people who gave Trump any difficulites about his character, those people are being targeted by the GOP who are worshipers of DJT. Trump is going after those people he hated while he was in control of the White House. They went after the attorney for Stormy Daniels as well. He's not practicing law right now. Trump is vindictive and he has proven it time and again.

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