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Eugene

(61,938 posts)
Wed Oct 31, 2012, 07:13 PM Oct 2012

Child sex convict Sandusky sent to Pennsylvania maximum security prison

Source: Reuters

By Mark Shade
HARRISBURG, Pennsylvania | Wed Oct 31, 2012 7:05pm EDT

(Reuters) - Former Penn State assistant football coach and convicted child sexual predator Jerry Sandusky will spend the rest of his days in a maximum security prison in the southwest corner of Pennsylvania, the state corrections system decided on Wednesday.

Sandusky, 68, who was sentenced to 30 to 60 years in prison this month for sexually abusing 10 boys over a 15-year period, was transferred to the State Correctional Institution at Greene County, near Pittsburgh, where he was put in protective custody.

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In prison, Sandusky will be allowed one visit each week from his family. All visits to his restricted housing unit, including those by counselors, will be non-contact, meaning all communication will happen through his closed cell door.

Sandusky can have a television, radio or other personal property in his cell, as long as it is approved by the prison, located 185 miles away from his home in State College.

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Read more: http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/10/31/us-usa-pennstate-idUSBRE89U1RZ20121031

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Child sex convict Sandusky sent to Pennsylvania maximum security prison (Original Post) Eugene Oct 2012 OP
Glad he's in prison for a long time. naaman fletcher Oct 2012 #1
Because... Sophiegirl Oct 2012 #4
I think even medium security prisons have separate areas for sex offenders naaman fletcher Oct 2012 #8
personally...i don't see any reason for his wife to come visit him. BlueMan Votes Oct 2012 #14
US prisons are not compassionate or rehabilitating facilities. Voice for Peace Oct 2012 #22
One can only hope. lindysalsagal Nov 2012 #49
Neither he or his wife will be safe anywhere in that prison. blue neen Oct 2012 #28
He got in trouble for touching so no more touching Angry Dragon Oct 2012 #37
When he should have been hugging his wife, he was hugging young boys. I don't have crunch60 Oct 2012 #38
They Do RobinA Nov 2012 #51
pedo state fan? SubgeniusHasSlack Oct 2012 #13
the maximum security thing may have to do with the length of the sentence. BlueMan Votes Oct 2012 #15
Post removed Post removed Oct 2012 #2
Prison rape is NOT funny, nor is ANY form of rape. kath Oct 2012 #29
We have male members of this forum who have been raped. They don't see the humor. freshwest Oct 2012 #32
I still can't believe he got such a light sentence. theinquisitivechad Oct 2012 #3
"You're leaving that place in a coffin" seems good enough to me. Posteritatis Oct 2012 #6
Whether he gets out alive or not is completely immaterial. theinquisitivechad Oct 2012 #12
"sends the message to child molesters that they'll get off easy" -- bullshit. Bertha Venation Oct 2012 #20
Completely disagree with your interpretation. theinquisitivechad Oct 2012 #23
And that statement is "you will never leave that cell." Posteritatis Oct 2012 #25
Still disagree with you. theinquisitivechad Oct 2012 #27
No, I don't feel differently. I agree with you. Bertha Venation Oct 2012 #30
I think it is internet - speak for "Hope This Helps." nt MADem Nov 2012 #43
Well, that seems a little snarky in that context. Bertha Venation Nov 2012 #45
And if not for the brave victims, he would never have been caught. n/t. lindysalsagal Nov 2012 #50
He gets to hope that he might go free someday.. sir pball Nov 2012 #48
He is not going to survive this sentence as it is. n/t cosmicone Oct 2012 #19
He is behind bars, he will never molest another young boy, that's good enough for me. crunch60 Oct 2012 #39
I think it's quite pragmatic on the judge's part sir pball Nov 2012 #46
When does the investigation into Corbett start for his role in protecting Sandusky? blm Oct 2012 #5
"Some say" SubgeniusHasSlack Oct 2012 #10
Spanier has always tripped the wire for me as well theinquisitivechad Oct 2012 #35
++100 crunch60 Oct 2012 #40
And the criminal institution that enabled his horrific crimes SubgeniusHasSlack Oct 2012 #7
Why punish the kids on the team naaman fletcher Oct 2012 #9
They are perfectly free to play elsewhere. SubgeniusHasSlack Oct 2012 #11
Meh, they'll screw something up during the probationary period and get DPd anyway. Posteritatis Oct 2012 #26
If they have any talent and the grades, they'd be wise to transfer the hell outta there ASAP. MADem Nov 2012 #44
Penn State football has been sanctioned. It didn't get the "death penalty" but they got slapped. slackmaster Oct 2012 #16
Rot, you filthy fucking pig. Bertha Venation Oct 2012 #17
Post removed Post removed Oct 2012 #18
yeah one good crime deserves another. thanks for sharing nt msongs Oct 2012 #21
What do you think would be a just punishment for Jerry Sandusky? blue neen Oct 2012 #24
Note to self: Send slippery soap to Sandusky. AtomicKitten Oct 2012 #31
I don't feel anything for the man. Just numbness. BlueJazz Oct 2012 #33
To put it musically mile18blister Oct 2012 #34
Greene County PA is a loooong way from State College PA. yellowcanine Oct 2012 #36
Well, That's that!!! defacto7 Oct 2012 #41
Na na na na, na na na na, HEY HEY! GOOD-BYE! alp227 Nov 2012 #42
Sounds about right. truthisfreedom Nov 2012 #47
I just don't get it ... funkhowser1 Nov 2012 #52
 

naaman fletcher

(7,362 posts)
1. Glad he's in prison for a long time.
Wed Oct 31, 2012, 07:15 PM
Oct 2012

But why maximum security and no contact visits? He is not a threat to anyone in prison, and is not a threat of breaking out.

Sophiegirl

(2,338 posts)
4. Because...
Wed Oct 31, 2012, 07:20 PM
Oct 2012

...other inmates are a threat to HIM. Even the worst of them do not have any tolerance for child molesters.

 

naaman fletcher

(7,362 posts)
8. I think even medium security prisons have separate areas for sex offenders
Wed Oct 31, 2012, 07:21 PM
Oct 2012

And there is no reason to prevent him from hugging his wife when she comes to visit.

 

Voice for Peace

(13,141 posts)
22. US prisons are not compassionate or rehabilitating facilities.
Wed Oct 31, 2012, 07:43 PM
Oct 2012

I don't know what he deserves. It will be hell, and
he may not live long without human touch.

lindysalsagal

(20,726 posts)
49. One can only hope.
Thu Nov 1, 2012, 01:43 PM
Nov 2012

I hope he gets subjected to exactly what he imposed on those young boys.

I hope he is forgotten by everyone who ever knew him.

I hope he's cold and lonely and miserable.

I hope he never eats a decent meal again.

He should only get media after he admits publicly that he did all of the things he was accused of, and admits that he deserves the punishment he's getting.

 

crunch60

(1,412 posts)
38. When he should have been hugging his wife, he was hugging young boys. I don't have
Wed Oct 31, 2012, 10:41 PM
Oct 2012

a problem with his arrangement in max security.

RobinA

(9,894 posts)
51. They Do
Thu Nov 1, 2012, 03:20 PM
Nov 2012

Many sex offenders in PA go to Somerset, which I think is medium security. The sex offenders I have known have been a fairly pathetic lot. Sandusky seems so as well. Can't imagine why he's at Greene.

 

BlueMan Votes

(903 posts)
15. the maximum security thing may have to do with the length of the sentence.
Wed Oct 31, 2012, 07:29 PM
Oct 2012

after a certain threshold, minimum/medium security prisons may not be an option.

Response to Eugene (Original post)

freshwest

(53,661 posts)
32. We have male members of this forum who have been raped. They don't see the humor.
Wed Oct 31, 2012, 08:45 PM
Oct 2012
They have told some of their stories in graphic and terrifying detail here, including one who was raped in prison. He was not a rapist, either. Please edit your post.

theinquisitivechad

(322 posts)
3. I still can't believe he got such a light sentence.
Wed Oct 31, 2012, 07:18 PM
Oct 2012

Less than a year per count of abuse. It is beyond disgusting.

Posteritatis

(18,807 posts)
6. "You're leaving that place in a coffin" seems good enough to me.
Wed Oct 31, 2012, 07:20 PM
Oct 2012

He'll never get out of there alive. Adding zeroes to the sentence won't make him any more imprisoned.

The main thing that bothers me is the lack of roommates who were also involved in that whole mess.

theinquisitivechad

(322 posts)
12. Whether he gets out alive or not is completely immaterial.
Wed Oct 31, 2012, 07:25 PM
Oct 2012

His risible "sentence" is not the justice required and sends the message that child molesters will get off easy. That court proved temselves the joke they promised to be throughout the entire case.

Bertha Venation

(21,484 posts)
20. "sends the message to child molesters that they'll get off easy" -- bullshit.
Wed Oct 31, 2012, 07:36 PM
Oct 2012

First, his sentence is plenty heavy enough, because it is clear that he will die in prison. Rot, Jerry, rot.

Second, criminal sentences do not send messages. People who are sick enough or evil enough to commit such terrible crimes do not think about the sentences they might receive if they are caught -- a big if; some have egos so big they think they'll never be caught.

theinquisitivechad

(322 posts)
23. Completely disagree with your interpretation.
Wed Oct 31, 2012, 07:47 PM
Oct 2012

And you misinterpreted what I said about sending the message that criminals will get off easy. A stiff penalty will not deter criminals, I don't disagree with that. my focus is more on the societal implications than sentences as a deterrent. As a society we owe it to our most weak and helpless that we are pursuing justice to the fullest extent of the law. We owe it to them and their suffering, as a statement that is ensconced in judicial history. No tolerance.

You obviously feel differently (and I've run into many like you). And no matter how much you explain yourself, I will NEVER understand why. HTH.

Posteritatis

(18,807 posts)
25. And that statement is "you will never leave that cell."
Wed Oct 31, 2012, 07:51 PM
Oct 2012

Adding "we'll keep your bones in the cell for the next thousand years" won't really make that more of a statement than it already is, or if it does, it'll just be the kind of statement people roll their eyes at.

"Your sentence will be for the remainder of your natural life" cannot be reasonably interpreted as a light sentence.

theinquisitivechad

(322 posts)
27. Still disagree with you.
Wed Oct 31, 2012, 07:56 PM
Oct 2012

You believe that his sentence should be relegated to meaning within the span of his own life. I believe the statement should be greater than that. It costs little to levy a greater sentence to honor the suffering of the victims; why not do it? It makes zero sense. To me. Sandusky sympathizers (often older, white, and male, often Penn State fans) are also fond of your position. I'm not making a statement about you, because I don't know you. Merely a statement of fact.

Bertha Venation

(21,484 posts)
30. No, I don't feel differently. I agree with you.
Wed Oct 31, 2012, 08:16 PM
Oct 2012

But what you wrote in this post no. 23 is not discernible from post no. 12.

What is HTH?

sir pball

(4,758 posts)
48. He gets to hope that he might go free someday..
Thu Nov 1, 2012, 12:42 PM
Nov 2012

I think it's much better justice this way - if he holds on, takes care of himself, with a little luck he'll be alive for his first parole hearing. In his sick, sick little mind I'm sure he'll expect to be able to die a free man (which is a pretty compelling feeling)...what goes through his head if he makes it that far and inevitably gets denied, the realization, at the very last, he's done. Oh, thinking about that makes me happy in ways a compassionate human being shouldn't be. Eh well, never claimed to be a nice guy.

Wonder if the judge watched The Dark Knight before the sentencing - "There's a reason why this prison is the worst hell on earth... Hope. Every man who has ventured here over the centuries has looked up to the light and imagined climbing to freedom. So easy... So simple... And like shipwrecked men turning to sea water from uncontrollable thirst, many have died trying. I learned here that there can be no true despair without hope."

 

crunch60

(1,412 posts)
39. He is behind bars, he will never molest another young boy, that's good enough for me.
Wed Oct 31, 2012, 10:59 PM
Oct 2012

To all the boy's who survived this rapist/pedophile, may you lives be healed with the love of people who really care about you. Don't every let Sandusky win, not in your thoughts or actions.

sir pball

(4,758 posts)
46. I think it's quite pragmatic on the judge's part
Thu Nov 1, 2012, 12:34 PM
Nov 2012

It's a life sentence - even IF he lives to see his first parole hearing, his utter remorselessness guarantees failure. And yes, my initial feelings were the same, until I thought a little...he no doubt still has the resources to try just about any legal tactic and while it would be a long shot, he could always try for an 8th Amendment appeal of a 450-year sentence. If nothing else, it would keep his monstrous ego nourished and given continuing attention.

Morally and symbolically, this is not the "ideal" sentence by any means, but effectively it's the same as anything longer - sometimes ya just gotta be practical. This sits fine with me.

blm

(113,083 posts)
5. When does the investigation into Corbett start for his role in protecting Sandusky?
Wed Oct 31, 2012, 07:20 PM
Oct 2012

Some of those victims were ready to commit suicide because their charges and claims were being ignored and not taken seriously by Corbett, who, once he became Gov. actually sent large funds of taxpayer dollars to Sandusky's foundation, once again ignoring charges against Sandusky - charges he was completely aware of because HE was the Atty General in charge at the time the charges surfaced.

theinquisitivechad

(322 posts)
35. Spanier has always tripped the wire for me as well
Wed Oct 31, 2012, 09:34 PM
Oct 2012

Closeness to Sandusky and career built on "family" psychology/sociology, in addition to him admitting he was abused in childhood.

And I hate to even stoop to this level, but something about his face and general appearance is just beyond creepy to me.

 

SubgeniusHasSlack

(276 posts)
7. And the criminal institution that enabled his horrific crimes
Wed Oct 31, 2012, 07:21 PM
Oct 2012

still earns million$ from the football industry they covered up his raping of little boys to protect.

pedo state should not be allowed to compete in the NCAA.

 

SubgeniusHasSlack

(276 posts)
11. They are perfectly free to play elsewhere.
Wed Oct 31, 2012, 07:25 PM
Oct 2012

The institution has been allowed to escape any real reckoning.

The message: "Football is too big to be brought to justice".

This was the attitude that allowed the serial criminality.

Posteritatis

(18,807 posts)
26. Meh, they'll screw something up during the probationary period and get DPd anyway.
Wed Oct 31, 2012, 07:53 PM
Oct 2012

That place will be under the world's largest magnifying glass for years, and given how much work they did nailing themselves to a cross at the idea of being punished at all, I can't see them making it through the probationary period without pushing it and getting worked over with the Consequence Bat some more.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
44. If they have any talent and the grades, they'd be wise to transfer the hell outta there ASAP.
Thu Nov 1, 2012, 11:13 AM
Nov 2012

That university will have a stink to it for a long time--like it or not.

Bertha Venation

(21,484 posts)
17. Rot, you filthy fucking pig.
Wed Oct 31, 2012, 07:33 PM
Oct 2012

May you live a long, long miserable life. May you decay, may the flesh drip from your bones, may you be in horrible pain, but may you not come close to death.

Response to Eugene (Original post)

blue neen

(12,327 posts)
24. What do you think would be a just punishment for Jerry Sandusky?
Wed Oct 31, 2012, 07:51 PM
Oct 2012

What is a just punishment for the people who were the major enablers, including perhaps Tom Corbett?

yellowcanine

(35,701 posts)
36. Greene County PA is a loooong way from State College PA.
Wed Oct 31, 2012, 10:25 PM
Oct 2012

If I remember correctly, about a 3 1/2 hr drive.

defacto7

(13,485 posts)
41. Well, That's that!!!
Wed Oct 31, 2012, 11:52 PM
Oct 2012

We don't have to see or hear about this guy anymore!!! Done.

Except for one thing...

He plans to appeal.

funkhowser1

(43 posts)
52. I just don't get it ...
Fri Nov 2, 2012, 01:47 AM
Nov 2012

how someone can look at a child/youth and see something sexually appealing. I just don't understand. I look at kids and see innocence that needs to be protected ... it takes a village and all that. I have 2 daughters and we watched them like hawks. We would question them after overnight events, field trips ... made certain they knew talking was OK, that they didn't have to fear anyone's threats to keep secrets. As they got older, we had them sit down and look at the sexual offender website for our zipcode. They were going to be the ones possibly encountering these people. My youngest announces "hey this guy works at the bowling alley", and sure enough he did. Made sure the after school program that occasionally took the kids bowling was aware. The guy also had two young boys that we would see around the neighborhood as a family.

Sandusky is where he belongs. How many lives did he destroy? When Dr. Phil premiered this season, he had a Sandusky victim on and the now adult spoke of what appeared to be a pedophile ring, where they traded boys and traded photos like baseball cards. This goes much further.

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