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Omaha Steve

(99,679 posts)
Sun Feb 6, 2022, 05:22 PM Feb 2022

Trump's election advisers were like 'snake oil salesmen', ex-Pence aide says

Source: The Guardian

Former chief of staff Marc Short joins several senior Republicans to defend the former vice-president in escalating feud with Trump

By Richard Luscombe

Mike Pence’s former chief of staff Marc Short joined several senior Republicans in rallying to defend the former vice-president on Sunday in his escalating feud with Donald Trump over the legitimacy of the 2020 presidential election.

Some of Trump’s advisers on the 2020 election were like “snake oil salesmen”, Short said on Sunday.

Pence angered the former president this week by rejecting Trump’s false claim that he had the power to overturn Joe Biden’s victory by refusing to accept results from seven contested states.

At a conference hosted by the conservative Federalist Society in Florida on Friday, Pence delivered his strongest rebuke to date of Trump’s election lies, declaring that it was “un-American” to believe that any one person had the right to choose the president.


Read more: https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2022/feb/06/trump-election-advisers-snake-oil-salesmen-mike-pence-aide

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Trump's election advisers were like 'snake oil salesmen', ex-Pence aide says (Original Post) Omaha Steve Feb 2022 OP
Except they didn't have to sell anything to Trump. Jacoby365 Feb 2022 #1
They didn't have to sell anything to Trump because he was shopping... Trueblue Texan Feb 2022 #19
"Like?" IrishAfricanAmerican Feb 2022 #2
Pence, Like 'snake oil salesmen' you mean like gay conversion therapy programs Mike? Botany Feb 2022 #3
But Mr. Vice-President would you... lame54 Feb 2022 #6
Pence did say True Blue American Feb 2022 #21
He is merely trying to stay out of prison DENVERPOPS Feb 2022 #8
There ain't no forgiveness for repenting after 13 months. Septua Feb 2022 #14
He knew they were sociopaths, he just didn't like that they turned on his boss. Irish_Dem Feb 2022 #4
Begs the question. jaxexpat Feb 2022 #22
Of course. They flock together as partners in crime. Irish_Dem Feb 2022 #24
I am even more curious what Marc Short said to the 1/6 committee! Emile Feb 2022 #5
Short kept mentioning "what we accomplished over four years" Beachnutt Feb 2022 #7
We know they killed hundreds of thousands Americans who didn't have to die. Justice matters. Feb 2022 #18
Pence knew what he was getting into with Trump Skittles Feb 2022 #9
Absolutely. Ligyron Feb 2022 #10
A snake knows a thing or two about snakes too. Marco was in like flint! Believe me. czarjak Feb 2022 #11
I think he meant that as a compliment... BadGimp Feb 2022 #12
The problem is the entire authoritarian GOP infrastructure. zaj Feb 2022 #13
Hogwash PSPS Feb 2022 #15
On the nose! BaronChocula Feb 2022 #25
I'm sorry, but I have a hard time giving props to people who do the obvious... SKKY Feb 2022 #16
Both men are from Indiana, murielm99 Feb 2022 #17
Oh for sure, but the fact it was Quayle is non-consequential in my mind... SKKY Feb 2022 #20
No sh*t Sherlock. n/t Earth Bound Misfit Feb 2022 #23

Jacoby365

(451 posts)
1. Except they didn't have to sell anything to Trump.
Sun Feb 6, 2022, 05:27 PM
Feb 2022

Because Trump, in his Malignant Narcissist condition, thought it was impossible for him to lose an election.

Trueblue Texan

(2,434 posts)
19. They didn't have to sell anything to Trump because he was shopping...
Mon Feb 7, 2022, 08:47 AM
Feb 2022

...for anyone extreme and crazy enough to agree with and help him facilitate his plans to overthrow the election. Their lack of principles and their tendency to embrace conspiracy theories is WHY he chose them!

Botany

(70,547 posts)
3. Pence, Like 'snake oil salesmen' you mean like gay conversion therapy programs Mike?
Sun Feb 6, 2022, 05:58 PM
Feb 2022

Pence knows the shit is gonna hit the fan very soon and is trying to get out in front of it.

Only 13 months after the attempted coup Pence is now saying that "it" was a bad thing?

lame54

(35,302 posts)
6. But Mr. Vice-President would you...
Sun Feb 6, 2022, 06:38 PM
Feb 2022

Vote for Trump if he were to run 2024?

That's a rhetorical question

True Blue American

(17,988 posts)
21. Pence did say
Mon Feb 7, 2022, 11:09 AM
Feb 2022

He would keep in touch with Trump.

As the Christian he claims to be he should have resigned years ago. I walk away when I see Religion abused.

Septua

(2,256 posts)
14. There ain't no forgiveness for repenting after 13 months.
Sun Feb 6, 2022, 08:55 PM
Feb 2022

I heard one Republican on a Sunday news shows call Pence an 'honorable man'...if Pence was 'honorable' he'd have resigned the Vice Presidency a few months after taking the oath in Jan 2017. Had he made the statement immediately after declaring Biden the winner, it would have carried some honorable mention.

At this point, it's just an insult to truly honorable men and women.

Beachnutt

(7,332 posts)
7. Short kept mentioning "what we accomplished over four years"
Sun Feb 6, 2022, 07:03 PM
Feb 2022

I wish chuck toad would have asked what did you accomplish...

Justice matters.

(6,937 posts)
18. We know they killed hundreds of thousands Americans who didn't have to die.
Mon Feb 7, 2022, 01:23 AM
Feb 2022

Horribly.

We know they cruelly separated thousands of young children, toddlers even, from their parents, like Nazis did, and threw them in cages, to sleep on cold concrete floors.

Horribly.

Skittles

(153,170 posts)
9. Pence knew what he was getting into with Trump
Sun Feb 6, 2022, 07:44 PM
Feb 2022

he enabled that fascist bastard for four years

FUCK THE BOTH OF THEM

Ligyron

(7,639 posts)
10. Absolutely.
Sun Feb 6, 2022, 07:51 PM
Feb 2022

If it was legal and somehow made it through the courts, then every election form now on would be decided by just one man.

 

zaj

(3,433 posts)
13. The problem is the entire authoritarian GOP infrastructure.
Sun Feb 6, 2022, 08:22 PM
Feb 2022

Not just trump. Not just his advisors. Not even just the party.

It's the entire beast.

PSPS

(13,607 posts)
15. Hogwash
Sun Feb 6, 2022, 09:01 PM
Feb 2022

He's trying to make it sound like trump was a "victim of bad advisors" who were "snake oil salesmen." The fact is that trump himself is a snake oil salesman who methodically surrounded himself with others who wanted a share of his racket and get paid big (taxpayer) money while they were at it.

BaronChocula

(1,574 posts)
25. On the nose!
Mon Feb 7, 2022, 03:08 PM
Feb 2022

Short is trying to thread the needle in casting blame so he doesn't incur the wrath of the illiterate doofus-in-chief.

SKKY

(11,816 posts)
16. I'm sorry, but I have a hard time giving props to people who do the obvious...
Sun Feb 6, 2022, 09:20 PM
Feb 2022

...and let's not forget how long it took Pence to do the obvious. Just the fact he called Dan Quayle and asked him about the legalities tells me he at least gave it some serious thought. So, yea, fuck that guy too.

murielm99

(30,754 posts)
17. Both men are from Indiana,
Mon Feb 7, 2022, 01:22 AM
Feb 2022

and have been vice presidents. They almost certainly know each other. Both are rather dull-witted horseshit lawyers. I can understand them being acquaintances. I can understand Pence trusting Quayle's judgement. I don't like either of them, but the connection makes sense.

SKKY

(11,816 posts)
20. Oh for sure, but the fact it was Quayle is non-consequential in my mind...
Mon Feb 7, 2022, 10:38 AM
Feb 2022

...It could have been Dick Cheney for all I care. The fact that he had to reach out to someone tells me he was at least considering it. So yea, fuck that guy and his apology tour.

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