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LetMyPeopleVote

(145,631 posts)
Mon Feb 14, 2022, 04:39 PM Feb 2022

Judge throws out Palin libel case against New York Times

Source: Politico

A judge has ruled that a libel lawsuit former Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin filed against the New York Times over a 2017 editorial should be thrown out because her lawyers failed to produce evidence that the newspaper knew what it wrote about her was false or acted recklessly towards indications it was false.

The ruling from U.S. District Court Judge Jed Rakoff came as a Manhattan jury was deliberating on Palin’s suit, which claimed the Times defamed her by unfairly linking her to a 2011 shooting spree in Arizona that killed six people and gravely wounded then-Rep. Gabby Giffords.


Rakoff said he would continue to allow the jury to deliberate to a verdict and added that he considers an appeal in the case to be inevitable.



Read more: https://www.politico.com/news/2022/02/14/palin-new-york-times-judge-ruling-00008719

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Judge throws out Palin libel case against New York Times (Original Post) LetMyPeopleVote Feb 2022 OP
Look for the right-wing bots to start the whines.... ificandream Feb 2022 #1
I think the point of this case was always to try to strike down rsdsharp Feb 2022 #11
Ha-Ha Mystery sage Feb 2022 #2
Poor SparkleMoose... back to Alaska... OneBlueDotS-Carolina Feb 2022 #3
Sarah Palin v. New York Times: Judge to dismiss former governor's libel claim in rare case LetMyPeopleVote Feb 2022 #4
The christofascist don't seem to get that with their celebrity comes the end of their ability... Thomas Hurt Feb 2022 #5
Lawyers had to know this. It's about publicity and another 15 minutes of fame for Palin. Auggie Feb 2022 #6
Absolutely. But who pays the attorney fees? Are those folks pro bono because they're seeking LuckyLib Feb 2022 #36
Good question Auggie Feb 2022 #39
Wasilla Wipeout? Sneederbunk Feb 2022 #7
Some say Palin will appeal all way to SC to get Sullivan reversed & fundraise & (try to) be relevant Bernardo de La Paz Feb 2022 #8
Palin failed to prove malice LetMyPeopleVote Feb 2022 #9
Ha ha! zuul Feb 2022 #10
This is exactly what she wants. Calista241 Feb 2022 #12
Palin should be on trial for her ads that agitated the Giffords shooting. hadEnuf Feb 2022 #13
Two Supreme Court justices, Gorsuch and Thomas, have hinted they want to change NYT v. Sullivan LetMyPeopleVote Feb 2022 #14
Wouldn't the dismissal happen before the jury starts deliberating? FakeNoose Feb 2022 #15
Sooooo many stories..for further clarity..maybe.. asiliveandbreathe Feb 2022 #21
Well then he hasn't really dismissed the case FakeNoose Feb 2022 #24
I have read all over the map//to dismiss, plans to dismiss, will dismiss asiliveandbreathe Feb 2022 #26
Yay! Mike Nelson Feb 2022 #16
The people behind this suit have verrrrrrry deep pockets. They bought 3 Supremes and a President, Ford_Prefect Feb 2022 #34
Well, that makes sense. Nobody could ruin Palin's reputation more than Palin has herself. catbyte Feb 2022 #17
Governor half term lasts half of a trial. She should just go livetohike Feb 2022 #18
I hope someone with a legal background can explain this. Tossing a case, but allowing deliberation? Raven123 Feb 2022 #19
Haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa Marthe48 Feb 2022 #20
I don't understand. Why continue to deliberate a trial which was thrown out? question everything Feb 2022 #22
Think of what happens if he's reversed FBaggins Feb 2022 #38
Thanks. I wonder how this decision may affect the jury - one way or the other question everything Feb 2022 #40
I presume they don't hear of it until after the verdict FBaggins Feb 2022 #41
NYT v. Sullivan is on the hit list for some conservatives on the SCOTUS LetMyPeopleVote Feb 2022 #23
Is that Rebl2 Feb 2022 #25
There are strong forces out to destroy the U.S. Turbineguy Feb 2022 #27
Yes!!! pazzyanne Feb 2022 #28
Yet another epic fail by the Klondike Kardashian. 11 Bravo Feb 2022 #29
Caribou Barbie is a loser again. So sad. Of course her and Toddie can always secede. That works.... Evolve Dammit Feb 2022 #30
Wondering if she has to pay lawyers fees for herself and the NYT? Emile Feb 2022 #31
Unlikely FBaggins Feb 2022 #37
Tough luck Mama Grizzly Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Feb 2022 #32
Sooooo hard for a public figure to prove libel. Doomed from the start. oldsoftie Feb 2022 #33
"...an appeal in the case to be inevitable." A win for Palin. Grins Feb 2022 #35

rsdsharp

(9,208 posts)
11. I think the point of this case was always to try to strike down
Mon Feb 14, 2022, 04:55 PM
Feb 2022

Sullivan v. New York Times. It’s going to the Second Circuit whether the jury finds in favor of the Times, or the judge dismisses or enters a jnov after a verdict in favor of Palin.

The goal is to get it to the Supreme Court to rule against the actual malice standard. Or as Trump put it, to “loosen up the libel laws.”

LetMyPeopleVote

(145,631 posts)
4. Sarah Palin v. New York Times: Judge to dismiss former governor's libel claim in rare case
Mon Feb 14, 2022, 04:47 PM
Feb 2022

This makes me smile




NEW YORK — A judge on Monday indicated he will dismiss Sarah Palin’s libel case against the New York Times, saying she had not met the legal standard showing that the newspaper acted with “actual malice” in publishing a 2017 editorial that included an inaccurate claim about her.

Judge Jed S. Rakoff told the lawyers involved in the case that he will formally issue his ruling after a jury returns a verdict.

This breaking story will be updated.

Thomas Hurt

(13,903 posts)
5. The christofascist don't seem to get that with their celebrity comes the end of their ability...
Mon Feb 14, 2022, 04:47 PM
Feb 2022

to whine and b*tch and sue over most of what the media say about her. If she would have stayed in AK she wouldn't have this problem.

LuckyLib

(6,821 posts)
36. Absolutely. But who pays the attorney fees? Are those folks pro bono because they're seeking
Tue Feb 15, 2022, 04:02 AM
Feb 2022

their own 15 minutes of fame as well?

Auggie

(31,204 posts)
39. Good question
Tue Feb 15, 2022, 09:30 AM
Feb 2022

I'd love to know too.

Look at it this way: the publicity Palin received to promote her "libel" was priceless. To buy that much exposure would have cost millions. Even if she or special interests paid six figures to mount a lawsuit it was deemed worthwhile. Her cult will love that she took on a media giant. Palin looks like a hero. And it promotes the agenda against the "liberal" media and the "liberal" courts. Win, win, win.

LetMyPeopleVote

(145,631 posts)
14. Two Supreme Court justices, Gorsuch and Thomas, have hinted they want to change NYT v. Sullivan
Mon Feb 14, 2022, 05:08 PM
Feb 2022

This case was designed to get to the SCOTUS to try to overturn NYT v. Sullivan




The case — the first libel lawsuit against the Times to go to trial in the United States in nearly 20 years — holds the potential to upend decades of precedent that have offered broad protections to media organizations when writing about public figures......

Yet two Supreme Court justices, Neil M. Gorsuch and Clarence Thomas, have hinted that they would like to revisit the logic of Sullivan, meaning that even a loss in this trial could send shock waves through the media industry if an appeal makes its way to the high court.

Beyond the legal issues, the courtroom phase of this case is shining a not-always-flattering light on editing practices within one of the most prestigious media outlets in the world.

FakeNoose

(32,791 posts)
15. Wouldn't the dismissal happen before the jury starts deliberating?
Mon Feb 14, 2022, 05:10 PM
Feb 2022

I don't understand why the judge threw the case out while the jury was still deliberating.

asiliveandbreathe

(8,203 posts)
21. Sooooo many stories..for further clarity..maybe..
Mon Feb 14, 2022, 05:19 PM
Feb 2022

A jury started deliberating on Friday, but Rakoff was acting on a rule that allows him to dismiss a case if he believes that the plaintiff had failed to prove central aspects of its case. Rakoff said that, because his decision is likely to be appealed, he would not file his ruling until the jury reaches its verdict.

FakeNoose

(32,791 posts)
24. Well then he hasn't really dismissed the case
Mon Feb 14, 2022, 05:26 PM
Feb 2022

He's just playing devil's advocate.

Sometimes judges don't like how the lawyer presents the case and the judge gets frustrated.

asiliveandbreathe

(8,203 posts)
26. I have read all over the map//to dismiss, plans to dismiss, will dismiss
Mon Feb 14, 2022, 05:34 PM
Feb 2022

agrees to dismiss, throws out...WTH...seriously, this will be appealed - if gets to SCOTUS..plan all along??..awaiting jury verdict as judge says, "will be helpful for appeals court.."

This is all a great example of everyone trying to be the first to report..

Ford_Prefect

(7,923 posts)
34. The people behind this suit have verrrrrrry deep pockets. They bought 3 Supremes and a President,
Mon Feb 14, 2022, 08:08 PM
Feb 2022

and didn't break a sweat. They own much of the planet, and more than few national governments, one way or another.

question everything

(47,544 posts)
40. Thanks. I wonder how this decision may affect the jury - one way or the other
Tue Feb 15, 2022, 07:27 PM
Feb 2022

They are not sequestered, are they?

FBaggins

(26,774 posts)
41. I presume they don't hear of it until after the verdict
Tue Feb 15, 2022, 07:34 PM
Feb 2022

Which has reportedly now been reached - against her

Evolve Dammit

(16,781 posts)
30. Caribou Barbie is a loser again. So sad. Of course her and Toddie can always secede. That works....
Mon Feb 14, 2022, 07:07 PM
Feb 2022

What pathetic seditionists

FBaggins

(26,774 posts)
37. Unlikely
Tue Feb 15, 2022, 07:37 AM
Feb 2022

The judge isn’t saying that the lawsuit was frivolous or that the allegedly defamatory statements were actually true. He’s just saying that the high bar to prove her claim wasn’t met.

Grins

(7,239 posts)
35. "...an appeal in the case to be inevitable." A win for Palin.
Mon Feb 14, 2022, 11:52 PM
Feb 2022

Yes.

And that’s a win for Palin. A appeal. The goal is to get this before the Supreme Court and to reverse New York Times v. Sullivan.

So who’s funding this for Palin? She’s too much of a grifter for paying for this with her own money.

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