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inanna

(3,547 posts)
Mon Feb 21, 2022, 09:01 AM Feb 2022

Russia reports five deaths and claims attempted border incursion

Source: Guardian

1m ago
12:57

Russian military officials have said five people who tried to breach Russia’s border have been killed, Reuters report.

Russian officials have said Russian troops and border guards prevented “Ukrainian saboteurs” from breaching their shared border, according to Russian wires cited by Reuters. Ukrainian armed vehicles were destroyed in Russia’s Rostov region, according to the reports.

Read more: https://www.theguardian.com/world/live/2022/feb/21/russia-ukraine-news-latest-crisis-putin-biden-summit-kyiv-kiev-russian-invasion-threat-live-updates?page=with:block-62138bc98f08e922113e175a#block-62138bc98f08e922113e175a

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Russia reports five deaths and claims attempted border incursion (Original Post) inanna Feb 2022 OP
"Saboteurs," yeah right. Archae Feb 2022 #1
UK says Russian invasion plan has 'already begun' inanna Feb 2022 #2
...For those of you who remain confused, The only Saboteurs in the region belong to Russia. Ford_Prefect Feb 2022 #3
No one believes this Bettie Feb 2022 #4
I agree PatSeg Feb 2022 #6
I think so too Bettie Feb 2022 #8
People like Tucker don't care about the truth PatSeg Feb 2022 #14
Everybody knows. discntnt_irny_srcsm Feb 2022 #22
Yes, that sums it up perfectly!!! PatSeg Feb 2022 #23
Have video of the scene. I like Eric Bugosian. discntnt_irny_srcsm Feb 2022 #30
Oh yes, that is perfect! PatSeg Feb 2022 #34
Ukraine rejects "fake" Russian claims about border incursion inanna Feb 2022 #9
Same ploy the Germans used to invade Poland Ray Bruns Feb 2022 #15
It doesn't matter if WE don't believe it Calista241 Feb 2022 #16
Sure, sure....that's it....I'm sure Fox will run with this... ashredux Feb 2022 #5
Count on it padah513 Feb 2022 #12
Saw a video of the alleged checkpoint. No roads nearby robbedvoter Feb 2022 #7
So, Poland is invading Germany? Solly Mack Feb 2022 #10
If true, they may have killed five sepratists trying to go home to Mother Russia. Thomas Hurt Feb 2022 #11
Sure. They were carrying the false flag. sinkingfeeling Feb 2022 #13
anyone with a functioning brain, which leaves out repukes, knows that Ukraine would never do this nt yaesu Feb 2022 #17
and the Putinphiles iemanja Feb 2022 #29
Bullshit.....Putin uses the same MO everytime....to justify his bullshit.... turbinetree Feb 2022 #18
I believe the "five deaths" part 0rganism Feb 2022 #19
The Russians are playing to melm00se Feb 2022 #20
Uh. Huh. uppityperson Feb 2022 #21
Four score and four years ago sarisataka Feb 2022 #24
The U.S.S. Maine has aluminum tubes in the Gulf of Tonkin, too! Gore1FL Feb 2022 #25
Right on cue. hamsterjill Feb 2022 #26
Yeah, right. Ukraine can't wait to provoke a full scale invasion by Russia. Martin68 Feb 2022 #27
False flag iemanja Feb 2022 #28
The first casualty of war is truth. BlueIdaho Feb 2022 #31
Heard someone on MSNBC say ... ificandream Feb 2022 #32
This was predicted before. EndlessWire Feb 2022 #33

inanna

(3,547 posts)
2. UK says Russian invasion plan has 'already begun'
Mon Feb 21, 2022, 09:25 AM
Feb 2022

From BBC Live coverage:

Posted at 8:20

A spokesman for UK Prime Minister Boris Johnson has told a media briefing that intelligence reports suggest Russian President Vladimir Putin intends to launch an invasion of Ukraine.

"The intelligence we are seeing suggests that Russia intends to launch an invasion and that President Putin's plan has already begun," the spokesman told reporters.

"We're seeing seen elements of the Russian playbook that we would expect to see in certain situations, starting to play out in real time."


https://www.bbc.com/news/live/world-europe-60454795

Ford_Prefect

(7,901 posts)
3. ...For those of you who remain confused, The only Saboteurs in the region belong to Russia.
Mon Feb 21, 2022, 09:26 AM
Feb 2022

Russia is the territorial aggressor who could benefit from sneaky sabotage. Ukraine wants nothing to cross the border, so why would they invite a Russian response in this way?

Bettie

(16,110 posts)
4. No one believes this
Mon Feb 21, 2022, 09:26 AM
Feb 2022

well, maybe some really right wing people who worship Putin say they believe it, but honestly, they don't either, it just fits their political model.

PatSeg

(47,501 posts)
6. I agree
Mon Feb 21, 2022, 09:37 AM
Feb 2022

No one believes it and Putin knows no one believes it. I think when Putin speaks, everyone automatically assumes he is lying.

Bettie

(16,110 posts)
8. I think so too
Mon Feb 21, 2022, 09:39 AM
Feb 2022

even in Russia, but there they are too afraid to say so.

Here? Only MAGATs believe him and maybe Tucker Carlson because he appears to be a moron.

PatSeg

(47,501 posts)
14. People like Tucker don't care about the truth
Mon Feb 21, 2022, 10:20 AM
Feb 2022

He only cares about advancing his career, the truth is irrelevant and optional.

In many ways, it is much like Trump. Even his ardent supporters admitted they knew he was lying and said they didn't care because he was "authentic".

discntnt_irny_srcsm

(18,479 posts)
22. Everybody knows.
Mon Feb 21, 2022, 12:02 PM
Feb 2022

"We know this. The ___ know that we know. But we make-believe that we don't know and the ___ make-believe that they believe that we don't know, but know that we know. Everybody knows." (Apologies to Hatem & Reeves)

inanna

(3,547 posts)
9. Ukraine rejects "fake" Russian claims about border incursion
Mon Feb 21, 2022, 09:39 AM
Feb 2022

13:22

Ukraine’s ministry of foreign affairs and ministry of defence said the Russian claim was “fake”, reports Luke Harding from Kyiv

“It’s not true,” a spokesperson said, adding a full statement would be released shortly.

The Ukraine military has robustly rejected Russian claims of a foiled border raid into Russia as “fake news”. Ukrainian military officials say their forces are not present in Russia’s Rostov region, Reuters reports.


https://www.theguardian.com/world/live/2022/feb/21/russia-ukraine-news-latest-crisis-putin-biden-summit-kyiv-kiev-russian-invasion-threat-live-updates

Ray Bruns

(4,098 posts)
15. Same ploy the Germans used to invade Poland
Mon Feb 21, 2022, 10:36 AM
Feb 2022

German troops dressed as Polish troops attack a german radio station. Blame Poland

Calista241

(5,586 posts)
16. It doesn't matter if WE don't believe it
Mon Feb 21, 2022, 11:02 AM
Feb 2022

It only matters if the Russian population finds it believable. As long as some portion of their population believes it, then Putin is gtg.

yaesu

(8,020 posts)
17. anyone with a functioning brain, which leaves out repukes, knows that Ukraine would never do this nt
Mon Feb 21, 2022, 11:05 AM
Feb 2022

turbinetree

(24,703 posts)
18. Bullshit.....Putin uses the same MO everytime....to justify his bullshit....
Mon Feb 21, 2022, 11:23 AM
Feb 2022

he is using the same tactics like that POS running China now did when he took over Hong Kong/ and the Muslim and Tibet.....always the others person/ government's provocation....another Stalinist tactic.....

sarisataka

(18,663 posts)
24. Four score and four years ago
Mon Feb 21, 2022, 12:05 PM
Feb 2022

Another dictator about to launch an invasion told his generals,

"I will provide a propagandistic casus belli. Its credibility doesn't matter. The victor will not be asked whether he told the truth".

hamsterjill

(15,222 posts)
26. Right on cue.
Mon Feb 21, 2022, 12:48 PM
Feb 2022

This surprises no one and is text book Putin. He’s a madman and a killer. That should never ever be minimized or forgotten.

Martin68

(22,822 posts)
27. Yeah, right. Ukraine can't wait to provoke a full scale invasion by Russia.
Mon Feb 21, 2022, 02:01 PM
Feb 2022

Biden's team has done a good job heading off any belief in Russian false flag operations.

BlueIdaho

(13,582 posts)
31. The first casualty of war is truth.
Mon Feb 21, 2022, 08:51 PM
Feb 2022

Might as well stop listening to anything the Russians “report.”

ificandream

(9,373 posts)
32. Heard someone on MSNBC say ...
Mon Feb 21, 2022, 08:54 PM
Feb 2022

.. Putin is trying to restore all the countries that split away from the former Soviet Union. He's basically trying to bring that back.

EndlessWire

(6,537 posts)
33. This was predicted before.
Mon Feb 21, 2022, 09:01 PM
Feb 2022

No one believes this. This is a tactic used by Russia for public opinion. They started this a couple of days ago (maybe yesterday.)

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